How many facebook friends did you loose this week?

[Boris]

There were no butthurt protests from the righties when The Obama won two elections....That's a pretty compelling reason. Perhaps you're right in that the Bernie lovers would have still protested.

Actually, there were, but I think we can probably agree that this election and these candidates are different. Yes, there is the birther thing, I suppose, but I don't remember anyone calling Obama the anti-christ or a criminal.

[Boris]

I think i speak for a lot of people who are out of patience at the accusations of sexist, racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe, science denier blah blah blah. It has become part of the tactics, techniques, and procedures of the left to accuse everybody they disagree with of hate, prejudice, and bias and refuse to debate the issues. In the buffet of reasons why Hilliary lost one is lots of voters aren't ok with the accusations, the violence, the entitlement, and the self defined superiority of the Democratic party.Not to mention the inbreeding with the media. In my experience over the last two days the people i have called out for this kind of thing have been shocked that anybody would challenge them. Depending on your point of view that is either good or bad news that me and many like me have only just begun. Maybe in an hour or a few days or a few months or maybe never i will just go back to shrugging it off. But for now, i am just not going to tolerate it without response.

Today, after seeing a colleague fly off the handle when hearing a slur, and then trying to calm them the **ck down, I heard a very similar argument - that they had had enough and they were not going to let oppressive language and behavior stand.

What a fucking mess. Seriously.

[The man in black]

I finally deleted my account in the past few days. Facebook is a major time waster for me filled with superficial communication at best.

[powerlifter54]

I think i speak for a lot of people who are out of patience at the accusations of sexist, racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe, science denier blah blah blah. It has become part of the tactics, techniques, and procedures of the left to accuse everybody they disagree with of hate, prejudice, and bias and refuse to debate the issues. In the buffet of reasons why Hilliary lost one is lots of voters aren't ok with the accusations, the violence, the entitlement, and the self defined superiority of the Democratic party.Not to mention the inbreeding with the media. In my experience over the last two days the people i have called out for this kind of thing have been shocked that anybody would challenge them. Depending on your point of view that is either good or bad news that me and many like me have only just begun. Maybe in an hour or a few days or a few months or maybe never i will just go back to shrugging it off. But for now, i am just not going to tolerate it without response.

Today, after seeing a colleague fly off the handle when hearing a slur, and then trying to calm them the **ck down, I heard a very similar argument - that they had had enough and they were not going to let oppressive language and behavior stand.

What a fucking mess. Seriously.

i believe it will pass. For a while, up until the first illegals get sent home. Hopefully they are smart enough to make sure they get the Felons first.

[Boris]

They say Obama sent more home than anyone else - I don't know if that's true, but I know that in NM, they spend a lot on it... Want a good paying job? Work at a detention center.

[bennyonesix]

I think i speak for a lot of people who are out of patience at the accusations of sexist, racist, bigot, homophobe, xenophobe, science denier blah blah blah. It has become part of the tactics, techniques, and procedures of the left to accuse everybody they disagree with of hate, prejudice, and bias and refuse to debate the issues. In the buffet of reasons why Hilliary lost one is lots of voters aren't ok with the accusations, the violence, the entitlement, and the self defined superiority of the Democratic party.Not to mention the inbreeding with the media. In my experience over the last two days the people i have called out for this kind of thing have been shocked that anybody would challenge them. Depending on your point of view that is either good or bad news that me and many like me have only just begun. Maybe in an hour or a few days or a few months or maybe never i will just go back to shrugging it off. But for now, i am just not going to tolerate it without response.

Today, after seeing a colleague fly off the handle when hearing a slur, and then trying to calm them the **ck down, I heard a very similar argument - that they had had enough and they were not going to let oppressive language and behavior stand.

What a fucking mess. Seriously.

What was the slur? Did you hear it yourself?

[Boris]

F-ing F*ggot.

Yes, I heard it myself. If I didn't does that mean it's made up?

[nafod]

My mom, bless her heart, believes anything shared with her on facebook, especially anti-Clinton or pro-Trump. It makes me cringe. This article in the Washington Post is so true...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... ge%2Fstory

You’ve been writing fake news for a while now — you’re kind of like the OG Facebook news hoaxer. Well, I’d call it hoaxing or fake news. You’d call it parody or satire. How is that scene different now than it was three or five years ago? Why did something like your story about Obama invalidating the election results (almost 250,000 Facebook shares, as of this writing) go so viral?

Honestly, people are definitely dumber. They just keep passing stuff around. Nobody fact-checks anything anymore — I mean, that’s how Trump got elected. He just said whatever he wanted, and people believed everything, and when the things he said turned out not to be true, people didn’t care because they’d already accepted it. It’s real scary. I’ve never seen anything like it.

You mentioned Trump, and you’ve probably heard the argument, or the concern, that fake news somehow helped him get elected. What do you make of that?

My sites were picked up by Trump supporters all the time. I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His followers don’t fact-check anything — they’ll post everything, believe anything. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3,500 as fact. Like, I made that up. I posted a fake ad on Craigslist.

[dead man walking]

real or fake, doesn't matter.

where was i just reading that people are selective about fact. they ignore facts that contradict their views.

besides, how do i know the story in the post is true?

[Blaidd Drwg]

I axed about 12. Most of them regressive liberals who who's shrieking was just deafening but at least 4 that were just ostrich type Trumpists who couldn't accept that yes...racism is real and no, you probably don't really understand it as well as you think you do.

All I ask of anyone on my list is that they be smart enough to be funny or funny enough to seem smart. But if you get don't get how lucky you are to be a white dude in America or you think you know shit you can't possibly know....Bounce Fuckers.

[Ryan]

Don't know, don't care.

[nafod]

real or fake, doesn't matter.

I think it matters a lot. I read that 44% of us merkins get their news from Facebook. Some of the fake stories out-clicked and shared real stories. This absolutely shapes thinking.

[The Ginger Beard Man]

I eventually was defriended by one guy, who sent a strong message by also unfollowing me on Instagram, where I never post anything political. Yes, I checked.
Over the last year I've learned a great deal about the people I interact with socially, some of whom I still call friends. It always comes down to politics, but I friends all over the political spectrum who are capable of having intelligent discussions or just agreeing to disagree.
It's mostly "liberals" who can't do those things, but that's simply because I live in NY and know so many liberals.

[dead man walking]

real or fake, doesn't matter.

I think it matters a lot. I read that 44% of us merkins get their news from Facebook. Some of the fake stories out-clicked and shared real stories. This absolutely shapes thinking.

you're fact (f it's true) about the percentage of people who get their news from facebook is further evidence that the end is near.

i guess i stand corrected. mostly, i'm dumbfounded.

[bennyonesix]

F-ing F*ggot.

Yes, I heard it myself. If I didn't does that mean it's made up?

People lie. People are lying a lot more about these things now than they did before. I know of at least two elaborately faked incidents involving homophobia. So yes, it matters to me if you heard it yourself.

[Boris]

F-ing F*ggot.

Yes, I heard it myself. If I didn't does that mean it's made up?

People lie. People are lying a lot more about these things now than they did before. I know of at least two elaborately faked incidents involving homophobia. So yes, it matters to me if you heard it yourself.

Okay, so now do you believe me? Or, do you think I'm lying too?

Does it change your thinking at all?

[TerryB]

Where was the part where Donald Trump, a NYC liberal his whole life, suddenly became anti-gay?

[bennyonesix]

F-ing F*ggot.

Yes, I heard it myself. If I didn't does that mean it's made up?

People lie. People are lying a lot more about these things now than they did before. I know of at least two elaborately faked incidents involving homophobia. So yes, it matters to me if you heard it yourself.

Okay, so now do you believe me? Or, do you think I'm lying too?

Does it change your thinking at all?

I wouldn't have asked you if I thought you were dishonest.

No. It doesn't. It is ridiculous to claim that open homosexuals receive more abuse today than they did even last year, let alone 10 or even 20 years ago. The liberal reaction to this election result is hysterical and completely unwarranted.

You seem a reasonable man and I am not interested in fighting you. But if that is what you want, we can do it. But you'll have to be more direct and drop the pretense we are discussing issues.

[Boris]

F-ing F*ggot.

Yes, I heard it myself. If I didn't does that mean it's made up?

People lie. People are lying a lot more about these things now than they did before. I know of at least two elaborately faked incidents involving homophobia. So yes, it matters to me if you heard it yourself.

Okay, so now do you believe me? Or, do you think I'm lying too?

Does it change your thinking at all?

I wouldn't have asked you if I thought you were dishonest.

No. It doesn't. It is ridiculous to claim that open homosexuals receive more abuse today than they did even last year, let alone 10 or even 20 years ago. The liberal reaction to this election result is hysterical and completely unwarranted.

You seem a reasonable man and I am not interested in fighting you. But if that is what you want, we can do it. But you'll have to be more direct and drop the pretense we are discussing issues.

I'm not fighting anyone. I disagree that it is all hysterical overreaction. I'm being as direct as I can without typing out some kind of dissertation. Of course we are not comparing 2016 to the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s, but are there people that think things have not escalated over the past three or so years?

Both sides of the divide are saying enough is enough, and both sides have very reasonable arguments.

[powerlifter54]

Where was the part where Donald Trump, a NYC liberal his whole life, suddenly became anti-gay?

Anybody who has seen the decor of his apartment or jet would find it hard to believe he is anti-gay. It looks like a Liberace hosted a home improvement show, "Flip this Wrist!"

[WildGorillaMan]

Everyone on my friends list who publicly announced they were going to take a break from Facebook last week is still there, posting and sharing the same stuff they always do, with no mention of their declared flounce.

[bennyonesix]

F-ing F*ggot.

Yes, I heard it myself. If I didn't does that mean it's made up?

People lie. People are lying a lot more about these things now than they did before. I know of at least two elaborately faked incidents involving homophobia. So yes, it matters to me if you heard it yourself.

Okay, so now do you believe me? Or, do you think I'm lying too?

Does it change your thinking at all?

I wouldn't have asked you if I thought you were dishonest.

No. It doesn't. It is ridiculous to claim that open homosexuals receive more abuse today than they did even last year, let alone 10 or even 20 years ago. The liberal reaction to this election result is hysterical and completely unwarranted.

You seem a reasonable man and I am not interested in fighting you. But if that is what you want, we can do it. But you'll have to be more direct and drop the pretense we are discussing issues.

I'm not fighting anyone. I disagree that it is all hysterical overreaction. I'm being as direct as I can without typing out some kind of dissertation. Of course we are not comparing 2016 to the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s, but are there people that think things have not escalated over the past three or so years?

Both sides of the divide are saying enough is enough, and both sides have very reasonable arguments.

It is hysterical overreaction. I see no escalation over the past three years other than the Cultural Left going from victory to victory: from Gay Marriage to Bake The Damn Cake Bigot to Trannys in Ladies Rooms. And of course even BLM is just a subset of this ideological dominance.

[Boris]

F-ing F*ggot.

Yes, I heard it myself. If I didn't does that mean it's made up?

People lie. People are lying a lot more about these things now than they did before. I know of at least two elaborately faked incidents involving homophobia. So yes, it matters to me if you heard it yourself.

Okay, so now do you believe me? Or, do you think I'm lying too?

Does it change your thinking at all?

I wouldn't have asked you if I thought you were dishonest.

No. It doesn't. It is ridiculous to claim that open homosexuals receive more abuse today than they did even last year, let alone 10 or even 20 years ago. The liberal reaction to this election result is hysterical and completely unwarranted.

You seem a reasonable man and I am not interested in fighting you. But if that is what you want, we can do it. But you'll have to be more direct and drop the pretense we are discussing issues.

I'm not fighting anyone. I disagree that it is all hysterical overreaction. I'm being as direct as I can without typing out some kind of dissertation. Of course we are not comparing 2016 to the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s, but are there people that think things have not escalated over the past three or so years?

Both sides of the divide are saying enough is enough, and both sides have very reasonable arguments.

It is hysterical overreaction. I see no escalation over the past three years other than the Cultural Left going from victory to victory: from Gay Marriage to Bake The Damn Cake Bigot to Trannys in Ladies Rooms. And of course even BLM is just a subset of this ideological dominance.

Okay, Benny. Jesus... those damn geyhs and rag heads should just understand that some people don't like their kind and move along politely, right? And screw that Travon kid in FL, right? No mature teenager would overreact to some asshole tailing their ass, right?

What you see as (apparently unequivocal) victories, some see as people just demanding the rights that others have always had. But you know this argument and I know it's falling on deaf ears.

[climber511]

What do you guys see as the most effective way to effect social change? Protests seemed to work much better when there were far fewer of them. These days an individual cause protest tends to get lost in the noise of the fairly constant stream of protests going on daily for anything and everything. Out of control protesting which end in riots, burning, and looting not only don't seem effective but seeming resulted in a major backlash from among others the rural whites and helped put Trump into the White House. What might be a better way to effect change? If this is working - I'm not seeing it.

[Turdacious]

What do you guys see as the most effective way to effect social change? Protests seemed to work much better when there were far fewer of them. These days an individual cause protest tends to get lost in the noise of the fairly constant stream of protests going on daily for anything and everything. Out of control protesting which end in riots, burning, and looting not only don't seem effective but seeming resulted in a major backlash from among others the rural whites and helped put Trump into the White House. What might be a better way to effect change? If this is working - I'm not seeing it.

Using honey rather than vinegar. My bet is that gay marriage happened not because of protests and parades, but because judges socialized with professionals who happened to play for the other team.

And I don't think it was necessarily fewer protests, but better protests. MLK, Malcolm X, and Rosa Parks didn't riot, didn't damage property, and didn't help themselves to free TVs. Not sure if there have been any protests (of any stripe) since that got results.