How to raise an atheist in seven easy steps

[Holland Oates]

LOL

YOu fuckers need to spend more time around Red State Xians. The Bible is FACT! to these niggers.

[FRKCTL]

Thinking, "I'm a pretty good guy" is the basis for all cultural norms.

No, it's not. It's the basis for life as the thoughtless running of the herd.

Religion is a radical critique - it tells me to love my neighbor, where I'd be otherwise inclined not to think too highly of many of them.

Blaidd is absolutely right: self regard is key.

You are not quite on target with loving your neighbor. Leviticus 19:18 says,"18 Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD." "...as thyself" is the part most people miss. The "radical critique" in that verse is just as much that one must authentically love oneself for loving others to follow as it is a challenge to not be a dick. People show you exactly how they regard themselves in the way they treat others.

As to the value of being a believer, if some people need faith to behave better and the world benefits from their beliefs, then what's the harm? However, the fact that there are demonstrably many good people who are also non-believers is evidence enough that belief in a deity is not required to be a good person. If it were true that belief is required to be a good person, then non-belief would result in good people being evil, or at least "not-good." I assume, HH that you apply secular and not religious standards to other's behavior in your profession. That would seem to be enough to satisfy the "civil" in civil society.

Vitriol on both sides atheist/believer is just insecurity, plain and simple. It also might have something to do with loving others to the same degree as thyself.

I'm a preacher's kid. My old man used to tell his congregation that if they were in church on Sunday because they were worried about getting into heaven they were in the wrong place. Church is a worship service. Salvation can be found elsewhere the other 6 days a week.

[powerlifter54]

I think myths are nearly always a layer cake of leftovers but Jesus was a real dude as far as legit historians are concerned.

It's easy to believe there was once a charismatic day laborer named Jesus who preferred prostitutes and fishing to a days work...I know several dudes just like that.

Word.

Either Jesus was who he said he was or he wasn't. Up to each individual to work that out on their own. Whether your parents push one, none, or a choice of religions or belief systems, ultimately as an adult you have to figure it out. Or not.

But Happy Easter to all. And espescially to Phil Mickelson or Fred Couples.

[Holland Oates]

I think myths are nearly always a layer cake of leftovers but Jesus was a real dude as far as legit historians are concerned.

It's easy to believe there was once a charismatic day laborer named Jesus who preferred prostitutes and fishing to a days work...I know several dudes just like that.

Word.

Either Jesus was who he said he was or he wasn't. Up to each individual to work that out on their own. Whether your parents push one, none, or a choice of religions or belief systems, ultimately as an adult you have to figure it out. Or not.

But Happy Easter to all. And espescially to Phil Mickelson or Fred Couples.

LOL

I'm pulling for Phil.

[DrDonkeyLove]

Leave it to you clowns to be proud of being white trash. Personally, I come from some of Europe's finest breeding stock. Rugged men and bosomy women who loved, laughed, worked and fought; all in the most noble of ways. That's something to be proud of. Not being a coon-skinnin', squirrel-eatin', backwoods cousin-fucker.

Some of these losers don't get you...fuck them. You stay proud and let your Kraj flag fly brother.
P.S: Those are some nice axes you have in the background. Is any of your stuff available in itunes?

[Turdacious]

Thud, my examples for the video are in that PDF as well. They throw in a bunch of stuff that isn't part of any Horus myth- claiming Isis was named Mary or Meri (not so), that she had a virgin birth (so very, very not so), that Horus raised a guy named El-Azar-Us from the dead. The latter is patently not an Egyptian name and not in any recorded Egyptian myths. They are just inventing stuff. I don't have a problem with anybody wanting to argue their views either way, but it should be done honestly.

Hey, experts may disagree (are you one?) but that's not the same as making stuff up.

The ancient Egyptian designation for Osiris was Asar or Azar. Now, when the Egyptians spoke of their Gods they indicated them with “the” and so we would have had “the Azar.” This term “the” also meant Lord or God, like the Greek word for God The-os or Theos. One of the Hebrew terms for Lord was El and was applied to their many deities, such as El-Shaddai or El-hoim. So when the Hebraic writers included Osiris in their myths they put him in as El-Azar The Lord Osiris. This in the later Latin translation was changed to El-Azar-us. This use of the “us” was the way that masculine names ended under the Roman language. In fact, in Arabic Lazarus is still spelt El-Azir, hence missing the “us”. So we now have El-Azar-us, which reduced further into Lazarus. In this way the Egyptian, or should we say much older mythos, became the literal truth of the Biblical record.

LOL, well that settles it then !

LOL at you two arguing with @.

[Thud]

Thud, my examples for the video are in that PDF as well. They throw in a bunch of stuff that isn't part of any Horus myth- claiming Isis was named Mary or Meri (not so), that she had a virgin birth (so very, very not so), that Horus raised a guy named El-Azar-Us from the dead. The latter is patently not an Egyptian name and not in any recorded Egyptian myths. They are just inventing stuff. I don't have a problem with anybody wanting to argue their views either way, but it should be done honestly.

Hey, experts may disagree (are you one?) but that's not the same as making stuff up.

The ancient Egyptian designation for Osiris was Asar or Azar. Now, when the Egyptians spoke of their Gods they indicated them with “the” and so we would have had “the Azar.” This term “the” also meant Lord or God, like the Greek word for God The-os or Theos. One of the Hebrew terms for Lord was El and was applied to their many deities, such as El-Shaddai or El-hoim. So when the Hebraic writers included Osiris in their myths they put him in as El-Azar The Lord Osiris. This in the later Latin translation was changed to El-Azar-us. This use of the “us” was the way that masculine names ended under the Roman language. In fact, in Arabic Lazarus is still spelt El-Azir, hence missing the “us”. So we now have El-Azar-us, which reduced further into Lazarus. In this way the Egyptian, or should we say much older mythos, became the literal truth of the Biblical record.

LOL, well that settles it then !

LOL at you two arguing with @.

Aww, looks like our lady of sorrows is having another bad day.

[Thud]

If Easter is not found in the Bible, then where did it come from?   Easter is not unique to Christianity, for 2,000 years before Christ Babylonians honored the resurrection of their god, Tammuz, who was brought back from the underworld by his mother/wife, Ishtar, pronounced “Easter.”  Ishtar was identified with the planet Venus, which, rises before the Sun. Phrygians honored Attis and Cybele, and Phoenicians worshiped Adonis and Astarte as well as Israelites honor the Canaanite Baal and Ashtoreth. The modern Easter celebration has come to us through the Anglo-Saxon fertility rites of the goddess Eostre or Ostara when all life was being renewed. Lent also came from paganism, not from the Bible! There is neither biblical nor historical record of Christ, the apostles or the early Church participating in the Lent season….

...The first chapter of the Egyptian “Book of the Dead” entitled “The Coming Forth by Day” refers to a state of unconsciousness that is transformed by rigorous self-examination and to realize that you are already enlightened. The crucifixion symbolizes the victory of the higher self over the false ego by realizing its true Self at One with the universe. The human body of Christ on the cross symbolized the death and surrender of the ego and the resurrection of the True Self, the Christos. These two concepts are at the core of ancient wisdom going back to the Vedas and the Tarot…

...True religion taught that God is love not wrath. God waits patiently while we destroy the layers of illusion that cloud our knowledge of the True Self.  God does not judge our behavior and send us to hell. Hell exists in a mind that is unconscious of its divinity.  For the ancient Egyptians the human mind was inner arena of consciousness where the lessons of the soul were learnt. The essential truth of the resurrection is of the One life force, the One soul, the One Sustaining Power constantly renewing itself in the human mind.

Easter should be a celebration of the crucifixion of the collective ego that identifies with hate, revenge, jealousy, greed and aggression. Our ego driven minds are battlefields of reaction to each other’s ideals. Both sides, whether right or wrong, are ready to die for their beliefs even though they are oblivious to the Truth as conflict disappears when Oneness is understood. If there is a sin at all to atone for it is because we are not aware of our At One Ment with God.

Concepts and ideas change but the eternal Truth of our True Selves doesn’t as everyone has the eternal Christos within them. Those of us who understand that reality are the spiritual warriors willing to do the rigorous self- examination that will cause the demise of the ego. They will observe this ego, which has caused so much grief; sink into an illuminated existence which accepts everything as it is with joy, love, and peace.

Our lives are meaningless if our perspective is reduced to one life that never knew about its eternal existence. We’ve been fed a false reality. Returning here again and again the soul brings its own book of records for the next lessons it needs to learn. If we want victory over our psychological shortcomings we have to do the necessary self- examination and change the thoughts and beliefs that have turned our lives into a living hell. Heaven is a concept of the limited human mind. Use this Easter as the moment to clean up your act before it’s too late.  Happy Easter!

[dead man walking]

I'm pulling for Phil.

so disappointing, ed, rooting for phil w/ his jiggly man boobs. he's not the sort of ladyboy i imagine you having a thing for.

[Holland Oates]

so disappointing, ed, rooting for phil w/ his jiggly man boobs. he's not the sort of ladyboy i imagine you having a thing for.

What can I say. I'm old school.

[The Crawdaddy]

Lefty is fun to watch. Slick as shit around the greens.

[Turdacious]

Lefty is fun to watch. Slick as shit around the greens.

+1.

I'm a little bummed though about this:

Two-time Masters champion Tom Watson received applause on every hole during the second round of the Masters Tournament. But he was playing for more than ceremonial reasons: After a first-round 77, the 62-year-old was even-par through 15 holes and could have made the 5-over cut by playing the last three holes in even par.

http://www.augusta.com/masters/story/ne ... asters-cut

Still impressive as hell though.

[The Crawdaddy]

My earliest golf memories are of watching Watson and Nicklaus. Have never enjoyed golf more than watching them play.

[Yes, I'm drunk]

Here is David Icke exposing the Babylonian origins of the Catholic Church. It needed a guy with his credibility to put this stuff into the mainstream.....

[Protobuilder]

LOL

YOu fuckers need to spend more time around Red State Xians. The Bible is FACT! to these niggers.

I got into a bit of an argument with a couple such folk before though stopped with I realized that they didn't really understand the idea of a parable.

[Thud]

Here is David Icke exposing the Babylonian origins of the Catholic Church. It needed a guy with his credibility to put this stuff into the mainstream.....

The nerve of him investigating the origins of the Christ Myth!

Listen, if he ever dares to try the same on Leprechauns, Robin Hood and King Arthur, I'll help you bring the bastard down!!!

[baffled]

Doesn't David Icke believe the planet is controlled by shape shifting lizards or something?

[Thud]

He must be an agent of Satan.

[baffled]

He must be an agent of Satan.

If Satan existed I guess.

[knuckles]

This is the lowest hanging fruit that made sense to me . A bumper sticker .

I dont know
and you dont either

Yes ,Im just a big dumb animal . So many here are far more informed and way more articulate . Still dont give a flying fuck what a man has to say , and they seem to be the only ones talking.I choose to do "good " and manage to love my son regardless of what anyone says or lable's it .If its the presence of gawd ,then so be it. You win . Feel better ?Now Im going to go listen to Slayer and read "The Warrior's Path" .Going to fuck my girlfriend tommorow ( out of wedlock). Probably going to buy some more shit I dont need ,but, just want .Going to swear alot . Scratch my balls and then go work on my squat. I have to be strong . I have a bunch of your gawds miracle's to deal with later this week , or cut some drunk fuck out of his car later today .....Or maybe the holy rollers next door will give me the fuckin bird unprovoked again ?Is it gawd that keeps me from takeing a claw hammer over there and bashing his hand to a bloody pulp? Maybe.

[Turdacious]

This is the lowest hanging fruit that made sense to me . A bumper sticker .

I dont know
and you dont either

Yes ,Im just a big dumb animal . So many here are far more informed and way more articulate . Still dont give a flying fuck what a man has to say , and they seem to be the only ones talking.I choose to do "good " and manage to love my son regardless of what anyone says or lable's it .If its the presence of gawd ,then so be it. You win . Feel better ?Now Im going to go listen to Slayer and read "The Warrior's Path" .Going to fuck my girlfriend tommorow ( out of wedlock). Probably going to buy some more shit I dont need ,but, just want .Going to swear alot . Scratch my balls and then go work on my squat. I have to be strong . I have a bunch of your gawds miracle's to deal with later this week , or cut some drunk fuck out of his car later today .....Or maybe the holy rollers next door will give me the fuckin bird unprovoked again ?Is it gawd that keeps me from takeing a claw hammer over there and bashing his hand to a bloody pulp? Maybe.

Atta Boy Drath!

[Yes, I'm drunk]

Here is David Icke exposing the Babylonian origins of the Catholic Church. It needed a guy with his credibility to put this stuff into the mainstream.....

The nerve of him investigating the origins of the Christ Myth!

Listen, if he ever dares to try the same on Leprechauns, Robin Hood and King Arthur, I'll help you bring the bastard down!!!

LOL, I always wondered what sort of people took him seriously. Apparently he's charging £50 a ticket for his next show.

[Turdacious]

I'm surprised it's mother let it have a cat.

[buckethead]

What if animals could read the Bible?

[odin]

This is the lowest hanging fruit that made sense to me . A bumper sticker .

I dont know
and you dont either

Yes ,Im just a big dumb animal . So many here are far more informed and way more articulate . Still dont give a flying fuck what a man has to say , and they seem to be the only ones talking.I choose to do "good " and manage to love my son regardless of what anyone says or lable's it .If its the presence of gawd ,then so be it. You win . Feel better ?Now Im going to go listen to Slayer and read "The Warrior's Path" .Going to fuck my girlfriend tommorow ( out of wedlock). Probably going to buy some more shit I dont need ,but, just want .Going to swear alot . Scratch my balls and then go work on my squat. I have to be strong . I have a bunch of your gawds miracle's to deal with later this week , or cut some drunk fuck out of his car later today .....Or maybe the holy rollers next door will give me the fuckin bird unprovoked again ?Is it gawd that keeps me from takeing a claw hammer over there and bashing his hand to a bloody pulp? Maybe.

Very good post. And you don't need to be informed to know stuff.

EDIT: apolgies if that sonds kind of patronising, it isn't meant to!