Perspective for us peasants-- 8NOV (2013) Hollywood Version

[Turdacious]

Tom Cruise not only thinks he trains harder than Olympic athletes, he believes his job as a professional actor is as grueling as fighting the war in Afghanistan -- this according to legal docs obtained by TMZ.

As we reported, Cruise recently sat for a deposition in his $50 million libel suit against a magazine publisher that claimed he abandoned daughter Suri -- and his quotes are GOLD.

First, the Middle East -- Tom says his location shoots are just like serving a tour in Afghanistan, "That's what it feels like. And certainly on this last movie, it was brutal. It was brutal."

As for his physical training, Tom said, "There is difficult physical stamina and preparation. Sometimes I've spent months, a year, and sometimes two years preparing for a single film." But the kicker, he adds, "A sprinter for the Olympics, they only have to run two races a day. When I'm shooting, I could potentially have to run 30, 40 races a day, day after day."

But it's not all grenades and triathlons ... Tom says he's only flown commercial ONCE in the last 4 years ... and that was because he had no choice.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/08/tom-cruis ... -olympics/

[Master_Blaster]

Tom Cruise not only thinks he trains harder than Olympic athletes, he believes his job as a professional actor is as grueling as fighting the war in Afghanistan -- this according to legal docs obtained by TMZ.

As we reported, Cruise recently sat for a deposition in his $50 million libel suit against a magazine publisher that claimed he abandoned daughter Suri -- and his quotes are GOLD.

First, the Middle East -- Tom says his location shoots are just like serving a tour in Afghanistan, "That's what it feels like. And certainly on this last movie, it was brutal. It was brutal."

As for his physical training, Tom said, "There is difficult physical stamina and preparation. Sometimes I've spent months, a year, and sometimes two years preparing for a single film." But the kicker, he adds, "A sprinter for the Olympics, they only have to run two races a day. When I'm shooting, I could potentially have to run 30, 40 races a day, day after day."

But it's not all grenades and triathlons ... Tom says he's only flown commercial ONCE in the last 4 years ... and that was because he had no choice.

http://www.tmz.com/2013/11/08/tom-cruis ... -olympics/

F-U-C-K Tom Cruise.

[nafod]

Ron Jeremy had a grueling job.

[Batboy2/75]

Funny thing is; a majority of the 91% of Americans that have not served in the military think this way. Particularly amoungst the so called elites. Talk with any college educated crowd. Doesn't matter if the crowd you are talking with is Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Liberal, Conservative, Male, Female, Straights, Gay as shit, black, white, yellow, brown, Purple, etc etc.......

They don't serve and would be horrified if one of their offspring considered serving.

Yet they all want to vote, believe they are all special contributions to the human race and believe they should be running things.

Fuck them and and Fuck Tom Cruise!

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

Funny thing is; a majority of the 91% of Americans that have not served in the military think this way. Particularly amoungst the so called elites. Talk with any college educated crowd. Doesn't matter if the crowd you are talking with is Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Liberal, Conservative, Male, Female, Straights, Gay as shit, black, white, yellow, brown, Purple, etc etc.......

They don't serve and would be horrified if one of their offspring considered serving.

Yet they all want to vote, believe they are all special contributions to the human race and believe they should be running things.

Fuck them and and Fuck Tom Cruise!

Butthurt much?

[Batboy2/75]

[Batboy2/75]

Funny thing is; a majority of the 91% of Americans that have not served in the military think this way. Particularly amoungst the so called elites. Talk with any college educated crowd. Doesn't matter if the crowd you are talking with is Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Liberal, Conservative, Male, Female, Straights, Gay as shit, black, white, yellow, brown, Purple, etc etc.......

They don't serve and would be horrified if one of their offspring considered serving.

Yet they all want to vote, believe they are all special contributions to the human race and believe they should be running things.

Fuck them and and Fuck Tom Cruise!

Butthurt much?

Are you propositioning me faggot?

[DARTH]

Funny thing is; a majority of the 91% of Americans that have not served in the military think this way. Particularly amoungst the so called elites. Talk with any college educated crowd. Doesn't matter if the crowd you are talking with is Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Liberal, Conservative, Male, Female, Straights, Gay as shit, black, white, yellow, brown, Purple, etc etc.......

They don't serve and would be horrified if one of their offspring considered serving.

Yet they all want to vote, believe they are all special contributions to the human race and believe they should be running things.

Fuck them and and Fuck Tom Cruise!

Butthurt much?

If you had a true sense of fairness, in it's real meaning than so should you.

The right to vote

What do we fucking do for it?

If you are a member of the Military, a paramedic, fire-fighter, cop (choke) for 2 years active/6 Reserve then you have done something for those around you, in your country either right here or overseas. They put themselves on the shit list.

A Hospital orderly, Hospital Dr. Nurse, Park Ranger, I'd say 6 years.

Teacher. Janitor in a school or Gov/Medical building 8 years.

Any shlub can get it and that's not how we started and it was the setting of the time bomb for our Republic by making it so every mouth breather past their 18th birthday, or some one who comes over and takes a test.(although you got to give it up for having to actually leanr some US History and Civics before you can fucking vote!)

Votes are being bought for pure give me shit, never in our Constitution and it will not end well.
The strive to the Liberal state is the very thing that will bring about either a Facist state (and therefore ripped by civil warfare) or a collapse. (Therefore shit nuts, Kaz bait gang rapping every orifice shit.)

Have fun with that Butthurt.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Bullshit. There are jobs that need to be done, not everyone can be a soldier, cop, fireman, or EMT. The corruption surrounding the military industrial complex is one of the problems the US faces today.

I think that if you hold a job and contribute to the economy then it's all good. Want to be a ward of the state? Ok, but You lose voting privs

This would immediately eliminate the attempts to buy votes via welfare

[DARTH]

Bullshit. There are jobs that need to be done, not everyone can be a soldier, cop, fireman, or EMT. The corruption surrounding the military industrial complex is one of the problems the US faces today.

I think that if you hold a job and contribute to the economy then it's all good. Want to be a ward of the state? Ok, but You lose voting privs

This would immediately eliminate the attempts to buy votes via welfare

But many Vets end up in hard times, so you want to strip their rights? See how quick one puts a bullet in a politicians head you take his rights.

No, you do something for your nation or community, then it's for life. Most who would abuse or systems don;t have it in them to serve in the military for a couple of years or do one of the aforementioned jobs (that contributes to the real "General Welfare"

Once again, you skimmed my post, saw what you wanted and skipped where I put many, non military or tier 1 hazardous jobs. The less the risk, the longer it takes.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

For most, the military is a fucking job, no more,no less. We can put in an exception that combat vets retain their rights for life, as do other folks who are disabled during their work.

And horseshit, the military is full of fuck ups and cruisers who would rip off anything they could get away with, and would be pleased to scam the taxpayers out of as much monetary benefits as possible

Seriously, would you just suck any soldiers cock for them signing up? Because you sure as hell sound like you're saying soldiers can do no wrong.

A naturalized, Muslim business owner who pays his taxes, and employs 3 other people is doing more for the US than most military personnel.

[DARTH]

For most, the military is a fucking job, no more,no less. We can put in an exception that combat vets retain their rights for life, as do other folks who are disabled during their work.

And horseshit, the military is full of fuck ups and cruisers who would rip off anything they could get away with, and would be pleased to scam the taxpayers out of as much monetary benefits as possible

Seriously, would you just suck any soldiers cock for them signing up? Because you sure as hell sound like you're saying soldiers can do no wrong.

A naturalized, Muslim business owner who pays his taxes, and employs 3 other people is doing more for the US than most military personnel.

Where the fuck did I ever say a soldier can do no wrong? Please let me know.

I think I hit a serious nerve of resentment here?

But whether they do see combat or not, all of them give themselves to the system, job or know they are pretty much OWNED by Uncle Sam, AKA All of US.

So you don't think when it comes to us all talking of changes to our method of elections, people who do sign their ass away outweigh the rest of us as we are not doing an individual assessment of worth, as a citizen and not tax payer or earner?

I know it's full of fuck ups, Shaf. It's why I did not take my chances with a waiver to go into support with such. If it meant getting my right to vote quickest, I'd eat the bullshit and go abroad with losers, but losers willing to give their ass, none the less.

[Gary John]

So, about 20 years ago, my old hippie buddy who has lived in a commune this 1968, started fucking one of the wives on the sly. Other hippie dude found out and threatened my buddy. He goes and hides in the hills for a couple of weeks.

Somehow it all got resolved and he was back living in the commune. Tells me now he knew what I went through in my year in Viet Nam. Just laughed it off.

We don't need to rank folks on how much they deserve to vote or not. Look at the turn outs and you can see not a of people vote to start with. I like to play in the ballot box, cuz I live in super lefty Bay Area of California. Vote against the bonds, try and write in my favorite Looney Tune character for the rest of the ballot.

So, fuck Tom and his bullshit. Those who know, know, those who don't, don't.

[DARTH]

posted wrong thread.

[Batboy2/75]

My comments about "poor" Tom Cruise are mixing two observations:

A healthy representative democracy cannot have 91% of the population detached from military service. More importantly, you cannot have the nation’s elite totally detached from military service. I bet the military non participation rate for the upper middle class on up into the elite is north of 99%.

This situation is dangerous for a whole myriad of reasons. A voting population totally removed from the consequences of war will result in a population willing to oscillate between extensively deploying combat troops on military escapades and timidly not using military forces when it is most needed. In short; the voting population and political leadership have become infantilized in military matters.

In America today, the military is dominated by the middle and working class. Along with upper middle class families that have a strong tradition of military service. In the combat arms, whites (mostly southern and western states), American Indians and pacific islanders are over represented. Hispanics are represented about on par with their share of the population. Blacks are underrepresented in the combat arms.

It's only a matter of time that those doing the volunteering to do the fighting make the connection and deem their civilian leadership and the rest of the population unworthy of their faithfulness. All it takes is the right combination of the wrong war or series of wars, the right charismatic general and the democracy is doomed to military dictatorship.

The other observation is citizenship or who votes.

In my opinion, you have to have some skin in the game to have the right to vote. The fact that we allow 18 yr. olds, government employees and welfare recipients to vote blows my mind. These people have absolutely no skin in the game and actually benefit from the looting of the nation’s treasury.

Instead of assigning voting rights by arbitrary wealth, race, class, gender or age; I say we assign voting rights by action and the willingness to sacrifice your life in defense of the country. Even if it's very remote.

Also, fuck this talk of cops, firefights, teachers etc. When they have to live under the UCMJ, live under the same working conditions, and receive the same benefits as the military we can talk. Until then they are scum sucking government lay a bouts.

If we wanted to bring some sanity back to our society and foreign policy we would:

(1) Pass a constitutional amendment declaring the USA neutral and dissovle any and all foreign entanglements.

(2) Pass a second constitutional amendment instituting universal conscription. Every swinging dick and set of boobs gets drafted. No deferments and no special privileges. After graduating from HS you serve a predetermined time in the Military and then the reserves/national guard. If you are too dumb or weak to serve in the regular military services, you still serve. You get assigned to a labor battalion and serve under the UCMJ.

Everyone would have skin in the game. Sound familiar? It's called Switzerland. A country with one of the highest living standards in the world and a country even Hitler decided wasn't worth the risk of invading.

Then, just maybe then, dumb asses like Tom Cruise would know better than to open their mouths about how acting is like serving in the military. And maybe if he was still stupid enough to spout such stupid garbage, someone within hearing distance would stomp his stupid ass.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Being mostly Swiss and Polish myself..

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

Talk with any college educated crowd...
They don't serve and would be horrified if one of their offspring considered serving.
Yet they all want to vote, believe they are all special contributions to the human race and believe they should be running things.
Fuck them

Butthurt much?

Are you propositioning me faggot?

No, sorry to kill your fantasy. Seriously, stop PMing me about your "meetup" group, faggot.

It sounds like you're bitter over not getting into college, just calling it like I see it. Being unable to recognize the value in someone's contribution to society because they're not in the military is narrow minded.

Yes, those of us who are educated believe we have the right to vote and yes, educated people run the world. What did this have to do with Tom Cruise being an asshole? (Cruise, by the way, didn't go to college)

You're clearly very sensitive, like a woman or a young child. Some might even say "butthurt".

[climber511]

Tomorrow is Veterans Day - I suppose old Tom Cruise will march in the local parade in his uniform. Playing one in the movies does not make you a veteran. Being a veteran doesn't really make you special - except tomorrow does have a real meaning to those of us who served - not a make believe one like the movies.

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

Funny thing is; a majority of the 91% of Americans that have not served in the military think this way. Particularly amoungst the so called elites. Talk with any college educated crowd. Doesn't matter if the crowd you are talking with is Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Liberal, Conservative, Male, Female, Straights, Gay as shit, black, white, yellow, brown, Purple, etc etc.......

They don't serve and would be horrified if one of their offspring considered serving.

Yet they all want to vote, believe they are all special contributions to the human race and believe they should be running things.

Fuck them and and Fuck Tom Cruise!

Butthurt much?

The right to vote

What do we fucking do for it?

Pay taxes

[Fuzzy Dunlop]

The other observation is citizenship or who votes.

In my opinion, you have to have some skin in the game to have the right to vote. The fact that we allow 18 yr. olds, government employees and welfare recipients to vote blows my mind. These people have absolutely no skin in the game and actually benefit from the looting of the nation’s treasury.

Instead of assigning voting rights by arbitrary wealth, race, class, gender or age; I say we assign voting rights by action and the willingness to sacrifice your life in defense of the country. Even if it's very remote.

That's dumb and wouldn't solve any of the problems.

18 year olds? Of course they should be able to vote... you can't deny people that will be sent to fight a vote in the decision process to send them. You should be on my side of this argument, I really can't believe you actually said that.

How about we assign vote weights based on taxes paid? That way the have-nots will not be able to loot the US treasury through income-redistributing legislation.

[Batboy2/75]

The other observation is citizenship or who votes.

In my opinion, you have to have some skin in the game to have the right to vote. The fact that we allow 18 yr. olds, government employees and welfare recipients to vote blows my mind. These people have absolutely no skin in the game and actually benefit from the looting of the nation’s treasury.

Instead of assigning voting rights by arbitrary wealth, race, class, gender or age; I say we assign voting rights by action and the willingness to sacrifice your life in defense of the country. Even if it's very remote.

That's dumb and wouldn't solve any of the problems.

18 year olds? Of course they should be able to vote... you can't deny people that will be sent to fight a vote in the decision process to send them. You should be on my side of this argument, I really can't believe you actually said that.

How about we assign vote weights based on taxes paid? That way the have-nots will not be able to loot the US treasury through income-redistributing legislation.

Anyone that recieves a government pay check should not be eligable to vote. Military, civil servants, politicians, and welfare recipeints. All have a vested interest in expanding government.

[tough old man]

I've always thought the "Starship Trooper " route was the correct path.

[nafod]

I've always thought the "Starship Trooper " route was the correct path.

It has an obviousness to it.

So should you have to have served in the military to vote for your local school board? Or mayor? Or vote on a referendum to build a park? What if you are a small town where hardly anyone is a vet in the first place?

[Bud Charniga's grape ape]

this thread is terrible.