NBC would burn too, which is why they'll never see the light of day (if they exist).nafod wrote:So here is what is going to happen, my prediction for the future, post-election:
1. It is widely believed that The Apprentice show has tapes that are like the pussy grab tapes, but tons instead of pounds of it
2. The tapes are legally protected by contract with The Donald
3. That one woman who just came out with an accusation that she was groped on the show will sue
4. The tapes will be subpoenaed
5. Bowls of popcorn will be consumed as it all comes out, and The Trump brand burns to the ground.
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unless trump were to sue the times, which he'll obviously never do.Turdacious wrote:NBC would burn too, which is why they'll never see the light of day (if they exist).
why would he make such an obvious phony threat?
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re: 'you'd be in jail'
Even if you wanted to float the idea that Trump was cognizant enough to actually be saying she would be in jail because of the server, simply incapable of voicing a coherent though... she was cleared by the FBI. So you have a potential (lol) President arguing that he would have influenced/forced the Justice Department to pursue a case when it didn't feel one was warranted.
If you don't want to be that charitable, you just have a potential (lol) President threatening to jail a political opponent. He's picked up a couple of things from Putin, I do suppose.
Even if you wanted to float the idea that Trump was cognizant enough to actually be saying she would be in jail because of the server, simply incapable of voicing a coherent though... she was cleared by the FBI. So you have a potential (lol) President arguing that he would have influenced/forced the Justice Department to pursue a case when it didn't feel one was warranted.
If you don't want to be that charitable, you just have a potential (lol) President threatening to jail a political opponent. He's picked up a couple of things from Putin, I do suppose.
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You mean like build a wall and make Mexico pay for it?dead man walking wrote:unless trump were to sue the times, which he'll obviously never do.Turdacious wrote:NBC would burn too, which is why they'll never see the light of day (if they exist).
why would he make such an obvious phony threat?
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Yes, he quit first. My misstep was not saying "letters of impeachment." Keep paddling though. Keep paddling.johno wrote:Your comment lacks fact: Nixon wasn't impeached. Dumbass.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Trump's promise is what got Nixon impeached. Your suggestion lacks context as well.johno wrote:Trump's promise puts the spotlight on Hillary's dishonesty & illegal behavior, her major weakness with the Voter. Can't have that.Grandpa's Spells wrote:Yeah, that's as low as he's gone, but it's not titilating, so it doesn't get a ton of play compared to other shit.Yes I Have Balls wrote:...Trump promising to put Clinton in jail...
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Do you find irony in that Hillary's personality is more like Nixon's than anybody since Nixon? If you liked Nixon, you'll love Hillary x infinity.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Yes, he quit first. My misstep was not saying "letters of impeachment." Keep paddling though. Keep paddling.johno wrote:Your comment lacks fact: Nixon wasn't impeached. Dumbass.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Trump's promise is what got Nixon impeached. Your suggestion lacks context as well.johno wrote:Trump's promise puts the spotlight on Hillary's dishonesty & illegal behavior, her major weakness with the Voter. Can't have that.Grandpa's Spells wrote:Yeah, that's as low as he's gone, but it's not titilating, so it doesn't get a ton of play compared to other shit.Yes I Have Balls wrote:...Trump promising to put Clinton in jail...
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^ And this is the tragedy. One grasping, corrupt power-seeker and one unstable, undisciplined narcissist.
The argument for Trump is Hillary and the argument for Hillary is Trump.
The argument for Trump is Hillary and the argument for Hillary is Trump.
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I'm picturing Nixon baking cookies nowDrDonkeyLove wrote:Do you find irony in that Hillary's personality is more like Nixon's than anybody since Nixon? If you liked Nixon, you'll love Hillary x infinity.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Yes, he quit first. My misstep was not saying "letters of impeachment." Keep paddling though. Keep paddling.johno wrote:Your comment lacks fact: Nixon wasn't impeached. Dumbass.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Trump's promise is what got Nixon impeached. Your suggestion lacks context as well.johno wrote:Trump's promise puts the spotlight on Hillary's dishonesty & illegal behavior, her major weakness with the Voter. Can't have that.Grandpa's Spells wrote:Yeah, that's as low as he's gone, but it's not titilating, so it doesn't get a ton of play compared to other shit.Yes I Have Balls wrote:...Trump promising to put Clinton in jail...
The bizarre thing is Hillary is the one getting watergated. Think she won't be even more doubly uber paranoid now?
Podesta probably shouldn't have used "HrC2016!" as his password.
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Agree with the comparison to Nixon. Not the Watergate one. There's no Wash Post, NYT, Chic Trib, CNN MSNBC etc etc ad infinitum camping on her lawn or bltizing us with articles. Maybe the NY POST, but they mostly for amusement. Their cover this morning is hilarious with HRC in a doughboy helmet at Bunker Hill.nafod wrote:I'm picturing Nixon baking cookies nowDrDonkeyLove wrote:Do you find irony in that Hillary's personality is more like Nixon's than anybody since Nixon? If you liked Nixon, you'll love Hillary x infinity.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Yes, he quit first. My misstep was not saying "letters of impeachment." Keep paddling though. Keep paddling.johno wrote:Your comment lacks fact: Nixon wasn't impeached. Dumbass.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Trump's promise is what got Nixon impeached. Your suggestion lacks context as well.johno wrote:Trump's promise puts the spotlight on Hillary's dishonesty & illegal behavior, her major weakness with the Voter. Can't have that.Grandpa's Spells wrote:Yeah, that's as low as he's gone, but it's not titilating, so it doesn't get a ton of play compared to other shit.Yes I Have Balls wrote:...Trump promising to put Clinton in jail...
The bizarre thing is Hillary is the one getting watergated. Think she won't be even more doubly uber paranoid now?
Podesta probably shouldn't have used "HrC2016!" as his password.
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[quote="johno"]^ And this is the tragedy. One grasping, corrupt power-seeker and one unstable, undisciplined narcissist.
The argument for Trump is Hillary and the argument for Hillary is Trump.[/quote"]
God, I missed this. You've defined, "Less is More." Nail right on the head.
The argument for Trump is Hillary and the argument for Hillary is Trump.[/quote"]
God, I missed this. You've defined, "Less is More." Nail right on the head.
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The Russians hacking the DNC and then drip drip dripping the emails to influence the election is a pretty big deal, when you think about it. Stupid on the DNC for not using 2 factor authentication, but still...DikTracy6000 wrote:Agree with the comparison to Nixon. Not the Watergate one. There's no Wash Post, NYT, Chic Trib, CNN MSNBC etc etc ad infinitum camping on her lawn or bltizing us with articles. Maybe the NY POST, but they mostly for amusement. Their cover this morning is hilarious with HRC in a doughboy helmet at Bunker Hill.nafod wrote:I'm picturing Nixon baking cookies nowDrDonkeyLove wrote:Do you find irony in that Hillary's personality is more like Nixon's than anybody since Nixon? If you liked Nixon, you'll love Hillary x infinity.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Yes, he quit first. My misstep was not saying "letters of impeachment." Keep paddling though. Keep paddling.johno wrote:Your comment lacks fact: Nixon wasn't impeached. Dumbass.Yes I Have Balls wrote:Trump's promise is what got Nixon impeached. Your suggestion lacks context as well.johno wrote:Trump's promise puts the spotlight on Hillary's dishonesty & illegal behavior, her major weakness with the Voter. Can't have that.Grandpa's Spells wrote:Yeah, that's as low as he's gone, but it's not titilating, so it doesn't get a ton of play compared to other shit.Yes I Have Balls wrote:...Trump promising to put Clinton in jail...
The bizarre thing is Hillary is the one getting watergated. Think she won't be even more doubly uber paranoid now?
Podesta probably shouldn't have used "HrC2016!" as his password.
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So Melania came out and said the gropees are all liars. Heh. Maybe the 10 of them will be at the next debate.
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The Gropees' timing is curious. All at once in October. And not one during the Republican convention.
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And yet Hillary's acolytes are already talking about winning by enough for her to have a "mandate", which is lunacy.johno wrote:The argument for Trump is Hillary and the argument for Hillary is Trump.
There is no margin by which the second shittiest Presidential candidate in history can beat the absolute shittiest candidate in history that can be said to produce a mandate. She will still have a higher disapproval rating on election day than anyone else who has ever won the Presidency.
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My opinion, it's the Access Hollywood tape timing that is the October Surprise. Kind of like the wikileaks releases, which have been mostly smothered by the SMELL OF SEX. Laugh out loud at Putin and Julian and their puny surprise. Welcome to big boy politics.johno wrote:The Gropees' timing is curious. All at once in October. And not one during the Republican convention.
The women were the response to Trump's response. I mean, did you ever doubt Trump was a groper? His owning a beauty pageant always reminded me of Jerry Sandusky running children's camps.
As for the primary, the leaders didn't want to piss off Trump's fans, since they wanted those voters for themselves, once Trump inevitably fizzled out. Cruz in particular played the "Trump's my buddy" game too long.
But I mean Jesus, the Howard Stern tapes alone should have been enough during the primaries. Or that weird shit where Trump would pretend to be his own publicist while calling reporters. Or the birther stuff. Ugly infidelities. Letting Stern call his daughter a nice piece of ass. Trump University. All this stuff was during the primary.
I can't believe it took the Access Hollywood tapes to push him over the edge.
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What I got from a cursory listen to Access Hollywood was that Trump was bragging that women LET him do anything...grab their pussy, etc. It's not sexual assault if you welcome it. Or don't object. And objecting twenty years later is suspect.
In male-female relations, consent isn't "Mother, may I?"
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Trump is a grabby pig. And I wouldn't want him near my daughter, although she would monkey-stomp the shit out of him if he grabbed her.
In male-female relations, consent isn't "Mother, may I?"
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Trump is a grabby pig. And I wouldn't want him near my daughter, although she would monkey-stomp the shit out of him if he grabbed her.
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For sure. The only Dem Trump could beat is Hillary and the only Rep Hillary could beat is Trump. If the future of Amurikkah and much of the world wasn't at stake it would be funny.DikTracy6000 wrote:johno wrote:^ And this is the tragedy. One grasping, corrupt power-seeker and one unstable, undisciplined narcissist.
The argument for Trump is Hillary and the argument for Hillary is Trump.[/quote"]
God, I missed this. You've defined, "Less is More." Nail right on the head.
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Clinton Derangement Syndrome is going to be fascinating. You can see it here already.
Thing is, people have been trying to get dirt on the Clintons for 25 years and nothing sticks. Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster insanity, Benghazi, e-mails - every time, there's no real fire to match the smoke you wingnuts are imagining.
Clinton is disagreeable in the sense that she's a moderate Democrat and a hawk - aka a Rockefeller Republican.
(As far as corruption, as I recall St. Reagan's admin still holds the modern championship - or did Bush Jr. eclipse him?)
Thing is, people have been trying to get dirt on the Clintons for 25 years and nothing sticks. Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster insanity, Benghazi, e-mails - every time, there's no real fire to match the smoke you wingnuts are imagining.
Clinton is disagreeable in the sense that she's a moderate Democrat and a hawk - aka a Rockefeller Republican.
(As far as corruption, as I recall St. Reagan's admin still holds the modern championship - or did Bush Jr. eclipse him?)
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I can't wait for this election cycle to be over because Trump is like having an ugly neighbor who parades herself naked in front of the window. I don't want to look but can't quite stop.
And when all is said and done, he either doesn't want the job or his ineptitude is beyond frightening. The thought of giving this guy power and responsibility is, well, unthinkable.
Still, this is a fascinating phenomenon.
And when all is said and done, he either doesn't want the job or his ineptitude is beyond frightening. The thought of giving this guy power and responsibility is, well, unthinkable.
Still, this is a fascinating phenomenon.
It's going to be a very looong four years.Pinky wrote:She will still have a higher disapproval rating on election day than anyone else who has ever won the Presidency.

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And OJ was Innocent.milosz wrote:Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster insanity, Benghazi, e-mails - every time, there's no real fire to match the smoke you wingnuts are imagining.
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
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I noticed there hasn't been a Muslim terrorist shooting in a while. That would help Trump so I don't think anyone will be activated by the CIA till December or after.

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That didn't take long. You perverted mother fucker. You are actually DEFENDING a man accused by 10+ women of sexual assault. Man, I have new respect to the absolute depths you will sink. You victim-shaming piece of shit.johno wrote:It's not sexual assault if you...don't object [at the time].





Edit to add: This makes me so curious as to what the search history of your porn is. Gotta be fucking brutal.
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The hawk part of this is clearly true, and frightening.milosz wrote:Clinton...she's a moderate Democrat and a hawk - aka a Rockefeller Republican.
The "moderate Democrat" requires you to assume that she's lying about most of her domestic platform, which I hope she is. She's running well to the left of the better Clinton. Despite her reputation as a "policy wonk", she's picked a feminist econ wacko with zero mainstream publications to lead her transition team, and she has a history of supporting crazy labor market policies. (She also has a history of saying things about gender discrimination that range from flatly wrong to simply misleading.)
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