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The latest revelation doesn't really do much more than remind people about Hillary's email server. Unless the FBI quickly discovers that half of the emails deal with Hillary's appetite for the flesh of newborn children, the worst realistic outcome of this for the Clinton camp is that Huma may fall on her sword to make it go away. And by "fall on her sword", I mean accept a well-paid job with the Clinton Foundation instead of following Hillary to the White House.
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nafod wrote:
powerlifter54 wrote:lmao all weekend.

The Clintonistas have always been smooth operators and congenital liars.

But idiots are more careful than this.
The whole "use a private server to keep emails to myself" never made sense, since they are EMAILS that get sent to lots of people across the internets. Never attribute to smoothness what stupidity can explain. Senior citizens should not be allowed electronic devices.

Those emails will be echoing around the internet for as long as there is an internet. Via wireless, they are on their way to Alpha Centauri as I type.

They live in a mess of their own creation, for sure.
They should have saved the chowhound Miss Universe a few more weeks. This will be a bloody week.
I'm hoping for the mother-grope to come forward. It's only fair.
If the Clintons don't have something left in their oppo research drawer, they are way dumber than i thought.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
powerlifter54 wrote:But idiots are more careful than this.
You're picking the weirdest time to make this post. The FBI has said they literally don't know anything about the latest emails, and haven't read them, and they only just got a warrant yesterday.
Two different subjects. My point is the flat out idiocy of having so many incriminating docs and statements in writing about ignoring subpoenas and taking cash, let alone having an unclass server that you send classified info upon. Mind boggling. I saw some real cases of security lapses in the Navy, but nothing even in the same solar system as this. Then to allow Huma to build a "Lifesaver" File is incredible.

Stunning.

Yes, the FBI found emails during an unrelated investigation of Weiner's Weiner pix, and yes they had to get a Warrant. Comey, because he previously chose to stay out of the election and give Hilliary a pass, upon this discovery either had to do what he did or let it wait until after the election. No good choice there.

In the end this goes back to a bad choice by Hilliary to have her own server. Good luck with that.
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In a week one of these disasters will be on their way to becoming president.

Should Hillary prevail, Obama will, of course, pardon her for everything she's ever done so the Repugs probably can't even get the impeachment machine properly warmed up.

Who knows what madness the Dems will come up with if Trump ends up on top.

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Yep either way - the people are screwed. I guess the only difference is in the front or the back.

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Washington Post had this story, "CNN Drops Analyst as Hacks Show She Leaked Questions"

I swear I read it first as "CNN Drops Hack as Analysis Shows She Leaked Questions
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What kind of person would share a computer with Anthony Weiner? I would look for a quill pen and sheets of parchment before I would type a password into his laptop.
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:Should Hillary prevail, Obama will, of course, pardon her for everything she's ever done so the Repugs probably can't even get the impeachment machine properly warmed up.
Do you actually believe this? No, really, when you discuss a sitting President preemptively pardoning an incoming President in order to blunt political controversy, is that something that makes sense to you?


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How does a Republican lose Utah?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/w ... ocall-utah

I think we might find out.


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DrDonkeyLove wrote: Should Hillary prevail, Obama will, of course, pardon her for everything she's ever done so the Repugs probably can't even get the impeachment machine properly warmed up.
I don't think you preemptively pardon someone who hasn't been arrested, charged, or convicted. None of that will occur before January 20.
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Pinky wrote:What kind of person would share a computer with Anthony Weiner?
his wife?
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milosz wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:Should Hillary prevail, Obama will, of course, pardon her for everything she's ever done so the Repugs probably can't even get the impeachment machine properly warmed up.
Do you actually believe this? No, really, when you discuss a sitting President preemptively pardoning an incoming President in order to blunt political controversy, is that something that makes sense to you?
Yes, perfect sense with Obama.

Assume for a moment that that a vicious cabal of democracy hating white male congressional repugs are trying to invalidate the will of the people and our founding fathers by endlessly tying up faithful public servant Hillary with a myriad of partisan investigations that hamper her from doing the people's business and threatening her ability to "protect us" internationally.

Why not pardon her before she takes office if you love America like Obama does? It's for the people.
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dead man walking wrote:
Pinky wrote:What kind of person would share a computer with Anthony Weiner?
his wife?
Some marriage.
That was probably arranged by Chuck Schumer, too.
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The Ginger Beard Man wrote:
dead man walking wrote:
Pinky wrote:What kind of person would share a computer with Anthony Weiner?
his wife?
Some marriage.
That was probably arranged by Chuck Schumer, too.
The Weiner documentary is amazing
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TerryB wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote: Should Hillary prevail, Obama will, of course, pardon her for everything she's ever done so the Repugs probably can't even get the impeachment machine properly warmed up.
I don't think you preemptively pardon someone who hasn't been arrested, charged, or convicted. None of that will occur before January 20.

I don't believe that Caspar Weinberger was arrested or charged in Iran Contra. Bush gave him a pardon.
Now, Therefore, I, George Bush, President of the United States of America, pursuant to my powers under Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, do hereby grant a full, complete, and unconditional pardon to Elliott Abrams, Duane R. Clarridge, Alan Fiers, Clair George, Robert C. McFarlane, and Caspar W. Weinberger for all offenses charged or prosecuted by Independent Counsel Lawrence E. Walsh or other member of his office, or committed by these individuals and within the jurisdiction of that office.
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:
milosz wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:Should Hillary prevail, Obama will, of course, pardon her for everything she's ever done so the Repugs probably can't even get the impeachment machine properly warmed up.
Do you actually believe this? No, really, when you discuss a sitting President preemptively pardoning an incoming President in order to blunt political controversy, is that something that makes sense to you?
Yes, perfect sense with Obama.
One of the more astute political minds we've had in 50 years? You're going to have to explain this further.
Assume for a moment that that a vicious cabal of democracy hating white male congressional repugs are trying to invalidate the will of the people and our founding fathers by endlessly tying up faithful public servant Hillary with a myriad of partisan investigations that hamper her from doing the people's business and threatening her ability to "protect us" internationally.
Ohhhh, an insane strawman. The Fox News internal monologue of a damn dirty lib'rul rather than anything resembling reality or even logic.

Here's a hint, preemptively pardoning isn't going to stop political troubles and grandstanding.

Weinberger was indicted and headed to trial.

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milosz wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:
milosz wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:Should Hillary prevail, Obama will, of course, pardon her for everything she's ever done so the Repugs probably can't even get the impeachment machine properly warmed up.
Do you actually believe this? No, really, when you discuss a sitting President preemptively pardoning an incoming President in order to blunt political controversy, is that something that makes sense to you?
Yes, perfect sense with Obama.
One of the more astute political minds we've had in 50 years? You're going to have to explain this further.
Assume for a moment that that a vicious cabal of democracy hating white male congressional repugs are trying to invalidate the will of the people and our founding fathers by endlessly tying up faithful public servant Hillary with a myriad of partisan investigations that hamper her from doing the people's business and threatening her ability to "protect us" internationally.
Ohhhh, an insane strawman. The Fox News internal monologue of a damn dirty lib'rul rather than anything resembling reality or even logic.

Here's a hint, preemptively pardoning isn't going to stop political troubles and grandstanding.

Weinberger was indicted and headed to trial.
12/25/92 Washington Post
President Bush yesterday pardoned former defense secretary Caspar W. Weinberger and five other former government officials involved in the Iran-contra affair because "it was time for the country to move on."
Should Hillary win, won't it be time for the country to "move on" again?

Thank you for calling me one of the more astute political minds in the last 50 years. It was very kind of you.
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:Should Hillary win, won't it be time for the country to "move on" again?
It will, actually. I have absolutely zero interest in the republicans spending all of their efforts trying to undermine an HRC presidency. The voters held their noses and mumbled. Maybe they should try governing for a change. How'd this work out in 2009?

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The Ginger Beard Man wrote:
dead man walking wrote:
Pinky wrote:What kind of person would share a computer with Anthony Weiner?
his wife?
Some marriage.
That was probably arranged by Chuck Schumer, too.
as ugly as a trump marriage, or a gingrich marriage, or a giuliani marriage. or a clinton marriage.

who knows what craziness attracts a man and a woman, and what craziness goes on between them. anyone who has been married for, say, 15 minutes, should know better than to judge another couple.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:The Weiner documentary is amazing
No way am I watching another wiener documentary recommended by someone from IGX.
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Should Hillary win, won't it be time for the country to "move on" again?
When was Caspar Weinberger President-elect?
When did Hillary get indicted for the e-mails?

I'll repeat it - I'm genuinely curious the extent to which someone like you is batshit insane and either ignorant or stupid, or trolling because that's what is done.

I call it the Ann Coulter Paradox - a series of statements or beliefs so bizarre no reasonable person could believe them... but scant evidence that the actor is a reasonable person to start with.


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dead man walking wrote:
The Ginger Beard Man wrote:
dead man walking wrote:
Pinky wrote:What kind of person would share a computer with Anthony Weiner?
his wife?
Some marriage.
That was probably arranged by Chuck Schumer, too.
as ugly as a trump marriage, or a gingrich marriage, or a giuliani marriage. or a clinton marriage.

who knows what craziness attracts a man and a woman, and what craziness goes on between them. anyone who has been married for, say, 15 minutes, should know better than to judge another couple.
Schumer picked Wiener as his replacement in Congress when he moved to the Senate. Clinton followed him to the Senate. Weiner married Abedin. Clinton became SoS. Schumer picked Gillibrand to take her Senate seat. Gillibrand went from a conservative democrat pro gun rep who slept with a rifle under the bed to an anti gun lapdog liberal dem puppet of Chuckie. Wiener stepped down in 2011 only when Schumer told him to. And now Schumer stands to become Senate Majority Leader, thanks in part to his Wall Street largesse.
The only question I have is, who arranged the marriage between Chelsea and the nephew of George Soros.

I've never been married (and hopefully my fiancé won't realize how much better she can do before April), and I wouldn't judge a marriage between any two normal people.
But we're talking about people who arrange alliances through marriage like the royal families of old Europe, and Schumer is Queen Fucking Victoria.
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The Ginger Beard Man wrote: But we're talking about people who arrange alliances through marriage like the royal families of old Europe, and Schumer is Queen Fucking Victoria.
that's a helpful analysis.

speaking of arranged marriages ivanka trump and what's-his-name kushner executed a new world real estate merger, n'est pa?

donald himself falls for hookers, bless his soul.
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The Ginger Beard Man wrote:I've never been married (and hopefully my fiancé won't realize how much better she can do before April), and I wouldn't judge a marriage between any two normal people.
You seriously threw this in during a post about NYC politicians (who, by definition, barely qualify as people)? Congrats!
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