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LOL! let me get this straight. Your argument is that the Duke lacrosse guys made a bunch of bad (cruel stupid things) decisions; so they deserved to have what happened to them. Why does that line of reasoning sound so fucking familiar? OHH, that's right, it's the same reasoning some people use to blame rape victims! She deserved it because she was hanging out in the wrong bar, or was out with out a family member or was dressed like a slut. Nice!

Maybe you shouldn't post until your hormones are in balance?? We'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and blame it on the hormones, anti-depressant drugs, or whatever. Because if your line of reasoning in this thread was based you being cold sane; maybe you and your family should just come to terms with the fact that you're just a bitter angry vapid dumb cunt.

I may or not be maggot infested, but at least I believe in the equal application of justice. Even for those I disagree with and or just don't like.
In these rapes, the girl often makes a stupid decision (I'm going to get shit faced at a frat party) prior to the happy event. They will often get labeled as sluts and attacked as victims.

Well, guess who made a stupid risky decision in hiring a dumb crack whore stripper for a party? Probably non-union. There's some "reap what you sow" here. Duke guys are guilty of stupidity.

I remember hiring a stripper for a party in college, and she brought a friend. There was an argument about payment after she quit early. Her friend had a gun. We paid. Could have got ugly.


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define "slut"

can men be sluts?

is it bad to be a slut? why?
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syaigh wrote:I can sense you are filled with the Christmas spirit. The circumstances surrounding the duke rape case were pretty ridiculous. If you care about human dignity, you'd have to wonder why a bunch of rich white boys would hire those particular strippers (prostitutes). I'd say it was more about making fun of someone's misfortune. Rape or not, I don't know anyone in that town who thought they should get any sympathy. Including duke university. It was bad behavior plain and simple. And sometimes, when you do stupid cruel things bad things happen to you.

And you are a most disgusting maggot infested cunt yourself. Hope you never have to deal with this kind of bullshit in your own family.

LOL! let me get this straight. Your argument is that the Duke lacrosse guys made a bunch of bad (cruel stupid things) decisions; so they deserved to have what happened to them. Why does that line of reasoning sound so fucking familiar? OHH, that's right, it's the same reasoning some people use to blame rape victims! She deserved it because she was hanging out in the wrong bar, or was out with out a family member or was dressed like a slut. Nice!

Maybe you shouldn't post until your hormones are in balance?? We'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and blame it on the hormones, anti-depressant drugs, or whatever. Because if your line of reasoning in this thread was based you being cold sane; maybe you and your family should just come to terms with the fact that you're just a bitter angry vapid dumb cunt.

I may or not be maggot infested, but at least I believe in the equal application of justice. Even for those I disagree with and or just don't like.
Your reading comprehension skills are sub par. All I said was that no one thought they were nice boys. And for this you call me names. And then I point out the obvious (hiring crack addicted mentally ill hookers to your party often leads to bad things happening) and you call me more names. Its okay, being exonerated for something you didn't do doesn't mean you're not an asshole.

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I see we can add backtracking weasel to your resume. However, since your posts are nothing more than rambling inconsistent emotional driven diatribes, I guess they can mean anything you want them to mean.

I could care less what's hanging or not hanging between your legs. I hate inconsistent dumbasses.
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Batboy2/75 wrote:I see we can add backtracking weasel to your resume. However, since your posts are nothing more than rambling inconsistent emotional driven diatribes, I guess they can mean anything you want them to mean.

I could care less what's hanging or not hanging between your legs. I hate inconsistent dumbasses.
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syaigh wrote:
Batboy2/75 wrote:I see we can add backtracking weasel to your resume. However, since your posts are nothing more than rambling inconsistent emotional driven diatribes, I guess they can mean anything you want them to mean.

I could care less what's hanging or not hanging between your legs. I hate inconsistent dumbasses.
Can't tell if you're so stupid it makes you angry or so angry it makes you stupid.

They say that when stupid people are confronted with something they can't figure out, they fall back on their own limited and stupid experiences. So sorry, projecting your faults onto others isn't going to get you out the hole you've dug for yourself.

I have no issues telling what your problem is. You're the end result of modern feminism. All of the privileges afforded women under the old patriarchy, but none of the responsibilities. Mixed with the post modern concept of being a perpetual victim class. You claim you want equality, but equality for you means whatever is in your favor at a particular point and time. Truth, Justice, standards; these are nothing more than obstacles and inconveniences.

The end result is a self indulgent spoiled dumbass.

Your stupid quote
As for your last statement, you're being a cunt. The Duke lacrosse players. Whole lot of bad behavior going on there. No one believes they raped that woman, but no one thinks they are stand up guys either.
Again, what does their boorish behavior have to do with being falsely accused of rape? Aside from your idea of gender warfare and victim politics.
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Batboy2/75 wrote:
syaigh wrote: for your last statement, you're being a cunt. The Duke lacrosse players. Whole lot of bad behavior going on there. No one believes they raped that woman, but no one thinks they are stand up guys either.
Again, what does their boorish behavior have to do with being falsely accused of rape? Aside from your idea of gender warfare and victim politics.
I wasn't going to bother, but Bats is correct. "Contempt" is too kind a view for that quote.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Batboy2/75 wrote:
syaigh wrote: for your last statement, you're being a cunt. The Duke lacrosse players. Whole lot of bad behavior going on there. No one believes they raped that woman, but no one thinks they are stand up guys either.
Again, what does their boorish behavior have to do with being falsely accused of rape?

For the record, nothing. I didn't say it did. Just that they were falsely accused AND they were assholes.

Aside from your idea of gender warfare and victim politics.
I wasn't going to bother, but Bats is correct. "Contempt" is too kind a view for that quote.
I still don't get what connection you are drawing here. A. No one believes the false allegations. B. No one thinks they are stand up guys. (Not because of the allegations, but because of the premise of the party.)

Are you saying I should hold these guys in high regard because they were falsely accused? That has nothing to do with why they had a party and who they hired to entertain. Two completely separate things there.

If you had a party and invited a mentally challenged person to sing because you thought it'd be funny as hell, you'd be an asshole. If that mentally challenged person falsely accused you of robbery and you were exonerated, it doesn't mean you're not an asshole.

But anyway, carry on. This is tiring. I have no gender politics, but it seems both of you do.
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Just want to add a little substance to the accuser of the Duke guys.
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Batboy2/75 wrote:
syaigh wrote: No one believes they raped that woman, but no one thinks they are stand up guys either.
. Just that they were falsely accused AND they were assholes.
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Uhhhh...aren't you guys agreeing with each other here?
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nafod wrote:
Batboy2/75 wrote:
syaigh wrote: No one believes they raped that woman, but no one thinks they are stand up guys either.
. Just that they were falsely accused AND they were assholes.
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Uhhhh...aren't you guys agreeing with each other here?
The original context is being lost. I pointed out that the Duke guys got profoundly fucked over by a false accusation getting picked up, and syaigh suggested they deserved it.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
nafod wrote:
Batboy2/75 wrote:
syaigh wrote: No one believes they raped that woman, but no one thinks they are stand up guys either.
. Just that they were falsely accused AND they were assholes.
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Uhhhh...aren't you guys agreeing with each other here?
The original context is being lost. I pointed out that the Duke guys got profoundly fucked over by a false accusation getting picked up, and syaigh suggested they deserved it.
Deserved? I think you read more into her comment then is there.

To flip it around, if the dumbass crack whore went into a crack-induced seizure while straddling Reginald the IV and the police and ambulance had to come, they'd have looked not so noble. A lot less than how they are cast now, strictly as brave stalwarts against the evil university progressives. Which they may well be.
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good article on "rape" on campuses, problematic administrative procedures, failure to address the role of alcohol, etc. it's long.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... forts.html
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People are responding to what they think syaigh wrote, not what she actually wrote. HTH!

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The only real issue I have is dumping shit because some guys wanted to pay awhore/stripper to come to their party.

That's what strippers and whores are for. I see nothing wrong with having a party like that. Less chance sweet little Jenny will find her self Roofied and being used to pull a train on 10 dudes for Youporn.

Oh no! some kids with money want to enjoy a down and dirty good time! They must be scum!

Then what are women who go down to the male strip club and grab dancer cock all night? Sluts?




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DARTH wrote: That's what strippers and whores are for. I see nothing wrong with having a party like that.
School sports team captains hiring strippers for an alcohol-fueled party on school-owned property that ends up in a yelling match on the front lawn...As someone who lives in a college town and could have been their neighbors, I see a couple of things wrong with having a party like that. :yawinkle: :yawinkle: :yawinkle:
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Batboy2/75 wrote:I may or not be maggot infested, but at least I believe in the equal application of justice. Even for those I disagree with and or just don't like.
Not surprisingly, there's a Jewish feminist lesbian academic who doesn't even agree with that most basic of legal norms.

Judith Levine, writing an article entitled The “Sex Offender” Regime is Cruel and Unusual Punishment in the conterpunch magazine opines that:
Psychopathic Jew feminist wrote:If it’s true that all seven of the football players arrested for hazing in the Sayreville, New Jersey, War Memorial High School locker room are students of color, that is one more reason not to prosecute them as sexual felons.

I don’t mean not to prosecute them in adult court. I mean not to prosecute them at all.
She suggests instead that as reparation for offences such as raping and murdering other Americans, blacks should be denied access to their sporting teams and be "held accountable to their victims by making amends in words and deeds."


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Tell you what...I wouldn't send my daughter to any school with a greek system. Groups of men, 17-23 are useful for two things only. Dying in battle and raping anything with a hole...including each other
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I have serious reservations about sending any of my kids to college for this reason among a whole list of reasons.

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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Tell you what...I wouldn't send my daughter to any school with a greek system. Groups of men, 17-23 are useful for two things only. Dying in battle and raping anything with a hole...including each other
Pretty broad strokes there...

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Mickey O'neil wrote:I have serious reservations about sending any of my kids to college for this reason among a whole list of reasons.
I have more serious reservations about my kids being shackled to mid-five to low-six figures of student debt with no realistic ROI in the work world afterwards than the slight risk of sexual assault, honestly.

Yeah, they might get fucked by another student, but they'll definitely get fucked by the institution.
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Kazuya Mishima wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Tell you what...I wouldn't send my daughter to any school with a greek system. Groups of men, 17-23 are useful for two things only. Dying in battle and raping anything with a hole...including each other
Pretty broad strokes there...

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dead man walking wrote:good article on "rape" on campuses, problematic administrative procedures, failure to address the role of alcohol, etc. it's long.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... forts.html
Yep, exactly why universities should not be playing cop. There is a legal system and it should be used. Contrary to the earlier post that thought is progressive in universities, it's not, it's just labeled as such. Just because you have different views about things the conventional wisdom doesn't mean it's progressive. For professors' research groups, the model parallels feudalism. Money is at issue but in a way highlighted in this article as well-rob some poor bastard of his rights based only upon an accusation, you deserve to be held accountable. The statements in the article about his being the same entitlement that lead to the rape highlights the thought process-a man has no rights once he's been accused and suddenly she has a right to have him treated as guilty simply by making the accusation. Don't ever forget that the ruling viewpoint of the university is they mean other people, not their enlightened selves, when talking about these issues.

The phenomena is covered a bit more in this ARTICLE to include the fact that a woman who makes a provably false charge can not only expect to get a way with it free of charge but also can claim she's a double victim.

This article discusses a bit the legal portion of it and the feminist response ARTICLE. Bats is exactly right here, the thought process is to resort to the 'paternalism' that woman are to be protected when they're drunk even when they agree to the sex. Anybody wanna take a swing what happens to drunk driving convictions when we decide that what you do when you're drunk doesn't count because, hey, you were drunk. Or maybe that rule just applies to women.

Would absolutely love to have seen what happened if this guy responded to the accusation with a counter accusation, saying he was drunk, she took advantage and he could not go to anybody because he's man and nobody would believe him. Perfect set-up. University scoffs, police scoff, then it's "see what i mean, nobody believes me because I'M A MAN and everybody thinks I WANTED IT." I do know guys who have lost good relationships because of sex with some other woman when they were drunk. None cried foul or rape.

If anecdotal reports count, here are a couple. Good friend had his ex-wife come in from out of town. Couple of days later he finds things missing in the house to include his guns. They were divorced because she had some, er, spending habits that didn't meet his income and she compensated by selling off household items at times. He tells her she has until the end of the day to get the guns back. She goes and files a restraining order. Makes false claims not only of him threatening her with the guns, but that she is a legal resident at his house. Every time he goes to court to fight it, she fails to show at the proceeding, but is up stairs in the court house getting another order. Despite the fact she was not a legal resident in the home, despite the fact she had a prior felony conviction and was not only in the possession of firearms but selling them, nobody in the system, courts or sheriff would do a thing until he hired an attorney at his own expense to get her run off. She occupied the house for 4 months. Did considerable damage. No charge ever filed against her. Would send the wrong message about domestic violence you see.

Roommate in school. Good guy. Had a girlfriend. Turned out she was engaged. Fiance found out. Rape charges come next. She's the perfect victim. Well educated. Well employed. Pillar of the community. She would never lie. Except she did. Guy was about to go down when another roommate presented the audio tape he made. "Fuck me daddy, fuck me harder, yes, daddy please...." Yep, that's a quote. Good for a laugh and got him off the hook. First she claimed he made her say it, which just goes to show what a sick bastard he is. Then it was clear that the tape went on for some time. Until she tried to sue the other roommate for making the tape.

No idea how representative these cases are, nor does anybody else. We all have stories of things we've seen and heard from people we know. There is no doubt women get raped, are passed out and violated (not to be confused with "I was drunk and would have never done that if I were sober, so it's rape"). Violent assaults do happen. Here people have this funny habit of trying to use statistics in individual cases where there are facts and justify it with the "well we all know what THOSE people are like" form of bigotry. As long as the person fits in that category of <<white, black, cop, woman, man, Jew, Christian, Muslim, frat boy, good girl, athlete...>>. If that's how you mentally determine guilt, you are a bigot, regardless of political affiliation.
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