Seattle People? Kshama Sawant?
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Seattle People? Kshama Sawant?
https://www.theringer.com/tech/2018/7/1 ... l-politics
Read this article while drinking my coffee this morning. It wasn't flattering, but I'm curious what folks closer to the issue think. Kinda weird that in this day and age we have radical socialists holding office, but hey, maybe she's great.
Read this article while drinking my coffee this morning. It wasn't flattering, but I'm curious what folks closer to the issue think. Kinda weird that in this day and age we have radical socialists holding office, but hey, maybe she's great.

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Pfffffft...she's a street shitter, a socialist, AND a woman. Which means she can STFU thrice.
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LOL @ "street shitter". I had not heard that one before.
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Woman + Socialist = I'm sure she's just as reasonable and intelligent as that Ocasio-Cortez trick on the opposite coast who is proving herself to be quite the useful idiot on a daily basis. She couldn't let her moronic comments about Israel (fuck the kikes, btw...Hitler did nothing wrong, juss sayin) sit for two days before she decided to enlighten us with the fact that unemployment is only low because "everyone has two jobs and is working 80 hours a week".
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I haven't paid much attention to Ocasio-Cortez, or this one for that matter. I'm sure they're lovely people and very enlightened but as Godless communists I can't say that I would ever support them. I assume they are both part of the rising tide of gutter-dwelling socialists unleashed by Bernie.

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It would be weirder if a major left coast city didn't have a radical socialist holding office. I'm kind of surprised she's the only one.Fat Cat wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 5:56 pm https://www.theringer.com/tech/2018/7/1 ... l-politics
Read this article while drinking my coffee this morning. It wasn't flattering, but I'm curious what folks closer to the issue think. Kinda weird that in this day and age we have radical socialists holding office, but hey, maybe she's great.
At least Seattle hasn't gone full retard like Oakland did.

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https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... lts-219161
Looks like Americans don't actually want the Khmer Rouge representing them.
Looks like Americans don't actually want the Khmer Rouge representing them.

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Why don’t you make any distinction between Cambodia and Denmark or Norway?Fat Cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:27 pm https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... lts-219161
Looks like Americans don't actually want the Khmer Rouge representing them.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:43 amWhy don’t you make any distinction between Cambodia and Denmark or Norway?Fat Cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:27 pm https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... lts-219161
Looks like Americans don't actually want the Khmer Rouge representing them.
Norway is a country of 5 million with a $1 trillion sovereign wealth fund. We are a country of 320 million with $21 trillion national debt. If you can't detect the differences in our capacity for social entitlements, perhaps that will clarify things?Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:43 amWhy don’t you make any distinction between Cambodia and Denmark or Norway?Fat Cat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:27 pm https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... lts-219161
Looks like Americans don't actually want the Khmer Rouge representing them.
As for Cambodia, I'm sure you would agree that they are not a desirable model for any country to follow? But that's precisely the endgame of socialism.

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You think Denmark will eventually become the Khmer Rouge?
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Denmark is a market economy. I don't follow you. But in principal, yes, socialism precipitates totalitarianism.Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:09 pmYou think Denmark will eventually become the Khmer Rouge?

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The Scandanavian countries have market economies with representative democracy, but they also construct policy to provide equality of opportunity (not equality of outcome) in education & healthcare, and other areas. They call it Democratic Socialism. It's got nothing to do with Marxist "Oops Communism was supposed to give us Socialism but now we have a Totalitarian state LOLkilledmillionsyou'repoornowkthxbai."Fat Cat wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:57 pmDenmark is a market economy. I don't follow you. But in principal, yes, socialism precipitates totalitarianism.Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:09 pmYou think Denmark will eventually become the Khmer Rouge?
The Sanders folks are endorsing the democratic socialist model. Some of them are idiots, but I've seen Devin Nunes speak at length and I don't know how he survives tying his tie every morning.
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Thanks for the clarification. A market economy with a strong safety net is not socialism. The United States has public education and medicare, but nobody argues that we're a socialist economy, that we have social ownership of the means of production, etc. To me, that's a false equivalence. But here's a demonstrable equivalence: the people who support socialism are supporting an anti-democratic, authoritarian, and totalitarian system, to which I provided the example of the Khmer Rouge. Sixty percent of Chile's budget was spent on social programs under Pinochet, but nobody thinks he was a pinko. You can have robust social programming without devolving into un-American extremes of either the left or the right.Fat Cat wrote:The Scandanavian countries have market economies with representative democracy, but they also construct policy to provide equality of opportunity (not equality of outcome) in education & healthcare, and other areas. They call it Democratic Socialism. It's got nothing to do with Marxist "Oops Communism was supposed to give us Socialism but now we have a Totalitarian state LOLkilledmillionsyou'repoornowkthxbai."
The Sanders folks are endorsing the democratic socialist model. Some of them are idiots, but I've seen Devin Nunes speak at length and I don't know how he survives tying his tie every morning.

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Actually, you inspired me to go and look at the Democratic Socialists of America platform and uhhh, wow. We have so much to talk about.
https://www.dsausa.org/where_we_stand
In this new economic order where sweatshops and child labor are on the rise and capital is freed from historic national constraints, American movements for social justice must of necessity adopt the internationalism of the socialist tradition. Just as Eugene Debs said, "While there is a soul in prison, I am not free" and Martin Luther King proclaimed that, "A threat to justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere," we must pledge to forge a new international solidarity based the spirit of the abolitionists and suffragists, the labor, peace, and civil rights movements, of modern feminism and environmentalism.

https://www.dsausa.org/where_we_stand
In this new economic order where sweatshops and child labor are on the rise and capital is freed from historic national constraints, American movements for social justice must of necessity adopt the internationalism of the socialist tradition. Just as Eugene Debs said, "While there is a soul in prison, I am not free" and Martin Luther King proclaimed that, "A threat to justice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere," we must pledge to forge a new international solidarity based the spirit of the abolitionists and suffragists, the labor, peace, and civil rights movements, of modern feminism and environmentalism.

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Pretty sure DSA are just a few thousand commies rebranded.
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Y'think?Grandpa's Spells wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:52 am Pretty sure DSA are just a few thousand commies rebranded.

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