US soldier kills Afghan civilians in Kandahar

[Grandpa's Spells]

Gotta be brutal for that soldier's family.

[DARTH]

He should be tried by US but then taken outside and shot in the head in front of a bunch of locals.

Where as Obama apologising for the Koran burnings was fucking weak this is a whole nother matter.

On another not Karzi needs to be told to STFU or be dumped back in the fucking moutians where we found him, dumped out of a CH-47 from 2,000 feet.

[baffled]

He should be tried by US but then taken outside and shot in the head in front of a bunch of locals.

Where as Obama apologising for the Koran burnings was fucking weak this is a whole nother matter.

On another not Karzi needs to be told to STFU or be dumped back in the fucking moutians where we found him, dumped out of a CH-47 from 2,000 feet.

Don't worry bro, Karzai doesn't last a year after we finally leave that shit hole. He'll crow all he wants, but dude's toast and he knows it.

Fuck Afghanistan. It's in the stone age, let it stay there.

[Protobuilder]

Actually in these two cases I brought up(Libya and Iraq), Saddam and Ghaddafi kept shit in line. They crushed their enemies, but there wasn't no chaos or offenders would answer to the boss. Then we essentially handed the countries over to these savages(in the case of Libya, we handed it over to Al Quaeda.-Derp), and best of all, neither country had attacked us. LOL

Those are the facts, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, and they are indisputable.

[Dunn]

It is a sad occurrence, no doubt. I do not wish for the death of anyone. That being said, we should have never been there for this to happen. Let the ignorant savages kill each other off. Fuck being the world police.

[tough old man]

Its definitely a sad event when non combatants get killed or injured. This case even more so as it appears so far to be just murder. I'm sure things will come out about mental health issues, PTSD, multiple tours ect. And why was he let out of the gate alone at 3 am?

That being said, we should have never been there for this to happen

Way too late to play that game. We needed to go there, we went there and we are fucking up the Taliban and Al Queda.

[Andy83]

Actually in these two cases I brought up(Libya and Iraq), Saddam and Ghaddafi kept shit in line. They crushed their enemies, but there wasn't no chaos or offenders would answer to the boss. Then we essentially handed the countries over to these savages(in the case of Libya, we handed it over to Al Quaeda.-Derp), and best of all, neither country had attacked us. LOL

Those are the facts, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, and they are indisputable.

How do your indisputable fact finding skills play out for what's happening in Syria right now?

[powerlifter54]

Actually in these two cases I brought up(Libya and Iraq), Saddam and Ghaddafi kept shit in line. They crushed their enemies, but there wasn't no chaos or offenders would answer to the boss. Then we essentially handed the countries over to these savages(in the case of Libya, we handed it over to Al Quaeda.-Derp), and best of all, neither country had attacked us. LOL

Those are the facts, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, and they are indisputable.

Indisputable to a lefty means "i am ignorant of the facts"

-Pan Am Flight 103
-Southern Watch
-Northern Watch
- could go on to bigger and better but why?

[Grandpa's Spells]

Its definitely a sad event when non combatants get killed or injured. This case even more so as it appears so far to be just murder. I'm sure things will come out about mental health issues, PTSD, multiple tours ect. And why was he let out of the gate alone at 3 am?

That being said, we should have never been there for this to happen

Way too late to play that game. We needed to go there, we went there and we are fucking up the Taliban and Al Queda.

If we were going to destroy the Taliban, we would have done it before now. Now that they aren't AQ's hosts any more, it's hard to find a rational reason for wanting to continue to fight them anyway.

[Dan Martin]

We have to ask ourselves, "what would Milo Minderbinder do?"

[TerryB]

you see, if we would have nuked Aghanistan in 2001-02, we would have set the precedent and wouldn't be apologizing for a few dead civilians here and there in 2012 mainly because we would've left that shit hole by 2005 if we'd done it properly.

[Fat Cat]

LOL. It's the West's fault that these inbred shitbags are killing their own people for religious reasons. Give me a fucking break. They've been killing each other longer than the West has been around.

Every nation kills it's own, that isn't disputed.

The question here is about how the West conducts itself. Like I alluded to, pissing on the still warm flesh of other human beings, burning Holy books, and apologising for the slaughter of children hasn't, until recently, been a trait of the Enlightened West. We diminish ourselves in this practice.

Oliver Cromwell

I win!

[powerlifter54]

More to this story almost 99% sure.

Wait for the guys name, background, or history to laid out. Delay so far makes me even more suspiscious.

Hopefully just a nutcase.

[Batboy2/75]

Its definitely a sad event when non combatants get killed or injured. This case even more so as it appears so far to be just murder. I'm sure things will come out about mental health issues, PTSD, multiple tours ect. And why was he let out of the gate alone at 3 am?

That being said, we should have never been there for this to happen

Way too late to play that game. We needed to go there, we went there and we are fucking up the Taliban and Al Queda.

^^^^this^^^^^

Sorry, but after 911 where was Al Qaeda holed up? Who refused to hand over Osama? Invading and fucking up Afghanistan, the Taliban etc. was the right thing to do in 2001 and it's still the right thing to do now. We just made the mistake of trying to nation build where there is no nation and the people are down right savages.

Fuck them; Turn the damn place into a special operations hunting preserve and pull the conventional units out.

[DARTH]

What Bat's said. Fuck them, fuck rebuilding them (But you know we will get balimed when they Thunderdome when we leave) just reserve the right to go in and kill or destroy whoever and whatever we want and make it plain we will kill anyone who gets in the way of the job.

[Fat Cat]

This has nothing to do with our mission in Afghanistan and in fact, jeopardizes American lives and objectives. It's nice to sound all hard and shit, but this guy is trash and has squandered the work of real heroes so that he could murder little girls in their sleep. I'd turn him over the the Afghans. It's almost rock-throwing season there and they could use the practice.

[baffled]

This has nothing to do with our mission in Afghanistan and in fact, jeopardizes American lives and objectives. It's nice to sound all hard and shit, but this guy is trash and has squandered the work of real heroes so that he could murder little girls in their sleep. I'd turn him over the the Afghans. It's almost rock-throwing season there and they could use the practice.

Good point. You know they're gearing up to take their stoning title back from the Iraqis.

[Andy83]

This has nothing to do with our mission in Afghanistan and in fact, jeopardizes American lives and objectives. It's nice to sound all hard and shit, but this guy is trash and has squandered the work of real heroes so that he could murder little girls in their sleep. I'd turn him over the the Afghans. It's almost rock-throwing season there and they could use the practice.

And another thing Mak, how did the poppy crop do there last season? Will the price of opiates be OK for a while?

[Holland Oates]

Actually in these two cases I brought up(Libya and Iraq), Saddam and Ghaddafi kept shit in line. They crushed their enemies, but there wasn't no chaos or offenders would answer to the boss. Then we essentially handed the countries over to these savages(in the case of Libya, we handed it over to Al Quaeda.-Derp), and best of all, neither country had attacked us. LOL

I don't deny the fact that you are correct on both counts. We had no business interfering in either country but you can't deny the human rights issues involving both dictators.

This is a tragedy but it's no different than any other mass shooting in the fact that sometimes shitheads do bad things.

[unknown]

why do you hate the afghanis so much? it's little over the top to condone the killing of the children. if it was your son or daughter? would you speak like you do now? it was the saudis that are/were fu.cking you over. and who gave you the right to condemn afghanis for their way of life. it is their. the americans are bombing and killing everybody in the world in the name of the human rights and democracy but in reality it's for oil. the afghanis are only not hypocrits. america is getting lonelier by the day. the weapon and money will not last forever.

ed zachary

who gave the right to america to interfere with human rights in other countries. nobody.
btw you wronged far more people than you helped.so, america is a country with the best human rights in the world or we should intervene because you dont treat every citizen how should it be treated?

[Fat Cat]

This has nothing to do with our mission in Afghanistan and in fact, jeopardizes American lives and objectives. It's nice to sound all hard and shit, but this guy is trash and has squandered the work of real heroes so that he could murder little girls in their sleep. I'd turn him over the the Afghans. It's almost rock-throwing season there and they could use the practice.

And another thing Mak, how did the poppy crop do there last season? Will the price of opiates be OK for a while?

Andy, I applaud your sense of the big picture. What I see is that the recent recession and the still-sluggish economy, along with a tepid jobs market, will conspire to keep opiate demand at current or below-current levels. That could mitigate a near-term downturn in opium production, due to too excessive rock-throwing among Afghani producers, keeping opiate prices level for the time being.

[Holland Oates]

unknown

Hey faggot I never said I condoned what the douchebag did and I said he should be put to death. Killing Afghanis is no worse than killing Africans or Chinese. It's an atrocity no matter where it happens and it's not like these savages aren't looking for a reason to kill their own as I said. So go be a faggot somewhere else.

[Fat Cat]

why do you hate the afghanis so much? it's little over the top to condone the killing of the children. if it was your son or daughter? would you speak like you do now? it was the saudis that are/were fu.cking you over. and who gave you the right to condemn afghanis for their way of life. it is their. the americans are bombing and killing everybody in the world in the name of the human rights and democracy but in reality it's for oil. the afghanis are only not hypocrits. america is getting lonelier by the day. the weapon and money will not last forever.

ed zachary

who gave the right to america to interfere with human rights in other countries. nobody.
btw you wronged far more people than you helped.so, america is a country with the best human rights in the world or we should intervene because you dont treat every citizen how should it be treated?

wat

[tough old man]

The Army staff sergeant who allegedly went on a rampage and killed 16 Afghans as they slept in their homes had a traumatic brain injury at one point and had problems at home after his last deployment, officials told ABC News.

But the soldier, who is based at Fort Lewis in Washington, was considered fit for combat duty and deployed to Afghanistan in December, officials said.

Details about the staff sergeant, who has not been identified, emerged as the Taliban vowed revenge against "sick-minded American savages" after the mass killing.

What has trickled about the suspect is that he was 38, on his fourth combat deployment in 10 years, the first three in Iraq. He was on his first tour in Afghanistan, where he'd been since December.

When the massacre took place he was assigned to Camp Belambay, a remote combat outpost where his job was to be protection for Special Operations Forces who were creating local militias. He was not a member of the special forces unit.

An official told ABC News that the soldier has suffered a mild traumatic brain injury (TBI) in the past, either from hitting his head on the hatch of a vehicle or in a car accident. He went through the advanced TBI treatment at Fort Lewis and was deemed to be fine.

He also underwent mental health screening necessary to become a sniper and passed in 2008. He had routine behavioral health screening after that and was cleared, the official said.

When the soldier returned from his last deployment in Iraq he had difficulty reintegrating, including marital problems, the source told ABC News, . But officials concluded that he had worked through those issues before deploying to Afghanistan.

[Fat Cat]

looks like PL54 called it