The soldier left the base in the middle of the night and wore night-vision goggles during the alleged rampage, according to a source.
The first village was more than a mile south of the base. While there, he allegedly killed four people in the first house. In the second house, he allegedly killed 11 family members -- four girls, four boys and three adults.
He then walked back to another village past his base where he allegedly killed one more person, according to a member of the Afghan investigation team and ABC News' interviews with villagers.
All of the victims were shot in their homes, according to villagers and the Afghan president's office.
Video from the scene show blood-splattered floors and walls inside a villagers home and blood-soaked bodies of victims, including the elderly and young children, wrapped in blankets and placed in the backseat of a van. Some of the bodies appear to have been burned.
John Kirby, a Pentagon spokesman, said officials "don't know what his [soldier's] motivation was. We are looking into that."
After the alleged shooting spree, it's believed the soldier returned to the base on his own and calmly turned himself in. He remains in NATO custody. One source told ABC News that the soldier had "lawyered up" and declined to talk.
Because of the soldier's role as supporting security for the special operations forces, he is not believed to have known the victims. But it's not clear whether the alleged attack was spontaneous and unprovoked.
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simply fatty you americans did more harm to the world then you helped it,atleast from 1945 to 2012.wat
especially with the paravan of the human rights that you first dont respect.
difficult for an average american to understand
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=D> =D> =D>Dan Martin wrote:We have to ask ourselves, "what would Milo Minderbinder do?"
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That's nice, I'll just hop in my time machine and...wait, wat?unknown wrote:simply fatty you americans did more harm to the world then you helped it,atleast from 1945 to 2012.wat
especially with the paravan of the human rights that you first dont respect.
difficult for an average american to understand

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unknown wrote:simply fatty you americans did more harm to the world then you helped it,atleast from 1945 to 2012.wat
especially with the paravan of the human rights that you first dont respect.
difficult for an average american to understand

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Every situation is different and slaughtering your own people is obviously never to be condoned but why stop at Syria? Why not include Sri Lanka? Perhaps the US could then invade and occupy Gaza, followed by bombing and rebuilding most of Sudan before taking on Russia and China on separate fronts and then waxing off North Korea on the way home to relax with the confidence that the only people to kill civilians (non-NATO category) have been taken care of and everybody can eat their Pop-Tarts in peace.Andy78 wrote:How do your indisputable fact finding skills play out for what's happening in Syria right now?Terry B. wrote:Those are the facts, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, and they are indisputable.Herv100 wrote:Actually in these two cases I brought up(Libya and Iraq), Saddam and Ghaddafi kept shit in line. They crushed their enemies, but there wasn't no chaos or offenders would answer to the boss. Then we essentially handed the countries over to these savages(in the case of Libya, we handed it over to Al Quaeda.-Derp), and best of all, neither country had attacked us. LOL
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We have to keep the troops there to fight off the Taliban. It's the Taliban who is after all that luscious opium. If they get it all, surely the price here will skyrocket and that will be very bad.Fat Cat wrote:Andy, I applaud your sense of the big picture. What I see is that the recent recession and the still-sluggish economy, along with a tepid jobs market, will conspire to keep opiate demand at current or below-current levels. That could mitigate a near-term downturn in opium production, due to too excessive rock-throwing among Afghani producers, keeping opiate prices level for the time being.Andy78 wrote:And another thing Mak, how did the poppy crop do there last season? Will the price of opiates be OK for a while?Fat Cat wrote:This has nothing to do with our mission in Afghanistan and in fact, jeopardizes American lives and objectives. It's nice to sound all hard and shit, but this guy is trash and has squandered the work of real heroes so that he could murder little girls in their sleep. I'd turn him over the the Afghans. It's almost rock-throwing season there and they could use the practice.

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USA! USA! USA!baffled wrote:
Actually, if Romney pledged to invade half the world in order to expand the economy 10,000% and wipe out every brown person on the planet, he probably could wrap up the nomination by Easter.
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If Easter has already happened, substitute Memorial Day.Terry B. wrote:USA! USA! USA!baffled wrote:
Actually, if Romney pledged to invade half the world in order to expand the economy 10,000% and wipe out every brown person on the planet, he probably could wrap up the nomination by Easter.
WildGorillaMan wrote:Enthusiasm combined with no skill whatsoever can sometimes carry the day.
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I may start voting republican.Terry B. wrote:USA! USA! USA!baffled wrote:
Actually, if Romney pledged to invade half the world in order to expand the economy 10,000% and wipe out every brown person on the planet, he probably could wrap up the nomination by Easter.
What's Easter?
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We must defend our white women.

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Bottom line is that Bale had an epiphany inspired by rational thought. He did the right thing. We must kill all muslims. It's the only way to wipe out that terrible religion and its brainwashedees.
Anybody want to argue about it, step right up.
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Gorbachev wrote:=D> =D> =D>Dan Martin wrote:We have to ask ourselves, "what would Milo Minderbinder do?"
What puzzle's me is why are we so quick to rush to judgement here? That Muslim Major pshrink that blasted all those soldiers at Ft. Hood has yet to go to trial.
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I agree. There is more to this than we are being told I believe.What puzzle's me is why are we so quick to rush to judgement here?
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tough old man wrote:I agree. There is more to this than we are being told I believe.What puzzle's me is why are we so quick to rush to judgement here?
Just the tip of the iceberg...
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/03/a ... gs-032012/
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17454316
I agree that there is a lot more to this story than we have been told thus far. I am interested to hear about the financial issues, but I'm not at all sure there is a connection. A lot of people have financial issues, they don't massacre whole villages for it, and shooting children in the head at point blank range and then lighting their corpses on fire is beyond the scope of typical debt management.
There is little evidence this guy did the crime. No known forensic evidence, no known motive, no known confession. He has no memory of it. Villagers say there was more than one killer. He did owe money but he had plenty of assets. All this plus a rush to judgment in the media can only heighten the level of suspicion which surrounds this case.
I agree that there is a lot more to this story than we have been told thus far. I am interested to hear about the financial issues, but I'm not at all sure there is a connection. A lot of people have financial issues, they don't massacre whole villages for it, and shooting children in the head at point blank range and then lighting their corpses on fire is beyond the scope of typical debt management.
There is little evidence this guy did the crime. No known forensic evidence, no known motive, no known confession. He has no memory of it. Villagers say there was more than one killer. He did owe money but he had plenty of assets. All this plus a rush to judgment in the media can only heighten the level of suspicion which surrounds this case.

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If I was in his situation, I'd do just as he's doing now, and deny everything.....
Zero-sum games like this where the death penalty's involved don't well reward honesty. That's why so many dead-men-walking never 'fess up. I don't blame them either.
Zero-sum games like this where the death penalty's involved don't well reward honesty. That's why so many dead-men-walking never 'fess up. I don't blame them either.
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He turned himself in.Fat Cat wrote:
There is little evidence this guy did the crime.
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Turned himself in for what. According to the article posted he denies the crimes of mass murder.

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A denial of the charges after you lawyer-up is not as persuasive as what you said the night of the event.Fat Cat wrote:Turned himself in for what. According to the article posted he denies the crimes of mass murder.
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Totally true, but do you have a transcript of this? I'm not denying that it exists, but the whole case is extremely weird. As is the BS about him having financial trouble. Who the heck murders 16 people in the most brutal and indefensible way possible just because they have some financial problems?

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Are you suggesting that someone who murders people in the numbers and ways we are discussing here might have a normal brain? Me thinks not.
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