NBC says the briefing to Trump didn't happen. CNN gave Trump an inch, he took a mile.nafod wrote:It is news that the Intel bubbas briefed them on this. If the document is fake, then that is news too. That is what CNN did.Turdacious wrote:Fact is that neither CNN nor BuzzFeed met basic journalistic ethics or standards on this story. This is an unforced error.nafod wrote:Trumpistas will wring their hands and fret. The rest of folks will at a minimum see fake but accurate.
Buzzfeed not so much.
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This. Absolutely. I don't want to go, "hey your guy did it too". But this is no more nefarious than Clinton's ties to overseas money, and less so, because he wasn't an elected official until November.let's start by ignoring the 2013 miss universe pageant in russia. that's a "tie," but we'll give donald a pass.
ties could be loans or equity financing for trump projects from russian banks or russian businesses.
ties could be negotiations or contractual arrangements with russian businesses to do business in russia or other parts of the world. we know his son-in-law has been pursuing a deal in china--russia, too?
This. Possible. But someone better have proof they were feeding him info, like the multitudinous proof of malfeasance by the bad actors on the other side.ties could be communications between trump, his staff, or surrogates with russians during the campaign. did monafort, who was paid by pro-russian guys in the ukraine, have ties directly to russians and did those ties yield information to the trump campaign?
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You have a source for that Turd? There is someone in my FB circle that we are Gorilla stomping who is still insisting this story is true. Including the Golden Showers.NBC says the briefing to Trump didn't happen. CNN gave Trump an inch, he took a mile.
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Didn't you say, a few posts back, that this similar to the Birther BS? Would it have been newsworthy if four intel agencies told Obama that people had come up with the Birther nonsense?nafod wrote:It is news that the Intel bubbas briefed them on this. If the document is fake, then that is news too. That is what CNN did.Turdacious wrote:Fact is that neither CNN nor BuzzFeed met basic journalistic ethics or standards on this story. This is an unforced error.nafod wrote:Trumpistas will wring their hands and fret. The rest of folks will at a minimum see fake but accurate.
Buzzfeed not so much.
If there's news here, it's that the intel agencies are this desperate.
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The really sad thing here is that with every lie, the press destroys its own fragile credibility in the eyes of the American people. So that if Trump actually does violate the law in order to profit personally, most people won't believe it.tonkadtx wrote:This. Absolutely. I don't want to go, "hey your guy did it too". But this is no more nefarious than Clinton's ties to overseas money, and less so, because he wasn't an elected official until November.let's start by ignoring the 2013 miss universe pageant in russia. that's a "tie," but we'll give donald a pass.
ties could be loans or equity financing for trump projects from russian banks or russian businesses.
ties could be negotiations or contractual arrangements with russian businesses to do business in russia or other parts of the world. we know his son-in-law has been pursuing a deal in china--russia, too?
This. Possible. But someone better have proof they were feeding him info, like the multitudinous proof of malfeasance by the bad actors on the other side.ties could be communications between trump, his staff, or surrogates with russians during the campaign. did monafort, who was paid by pro-russian guys in the ukraine, have ties directly to russians and did those ties yield information to the trump campaign?
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What a dummy. Unless you have a massive infection, urine is sterile. This is proof he is a moron and should therefore be euthanized. Either that, or he knows urine is sterile and is trying to distract from the truth by throwing out facts that don't matter. Sort of like the Carbonara effect. Maybe he's actually a genius . . . . Nah. Moron.dead man walking wrote:i see two distinct elements here:
1) golden shower. obvious bullshit, but good fun. i love trump's defense: "i'm a germaphobe."
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(the above post is satire, ie, kind of like fake news except not news, just snark.)
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i'd urge you not to go overboard with bashing the intel guys.The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Didn't you say, a few posts back, that this similar to the Birther BS? Would it have been newsworthy if four intel agencies told Obama that people had come up with the Birther nonsense?nafod wrote:It is news that the Intel bubbas briefed them on this. If the document is fake, then that is news too. That is what CNN did.Turdacious wrote:Fact is that neither CNN nor BuzzFeed met basic journalistic ethics or standards on this story. This is an unforced error.nafod wrote:Trumpistas will wring their hands and fret. The rest of folks will at a minimum see fake but accurate.
Buzzfeed not so much.
If there's news here, it's that the intel agencies are this desperate.
after the intel briefing, trump did admit that russia probably hacked the dnc. so that is a 100% confirmation from trump that a foreign power stole private information. that's a bad thing. period. so the intel people had that right. period.
(by the way, i like how trump blames the dnc for being hacked., i.e. blames the victim. the democrats were asking to be raped, wearing those sexy pant suits.)
as for the russians hacking republicans and trump, that's uncertain. the golden shower is distracting people from the underlying issue, as i have noted.
as to whether the intel guys briefed trump on the russian hack of republican stuff and trump stuff, trump said he couldn't discuss what was said in a confidential briefing, meaning, i think, yeah, they told him.
none of us knows what the intel guys have. you do not know. drawing conclusions with no facts is like dividing by zero. you got nothing.
but we can still argue vehemently.
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What happened was
1) IC called a briefing on Russian Hacking.
2) IC leaked the briefing material and an addendum to the report on Disinformation which was never shown to Trump.
3) Buzzfeed printed the entire set of documents.
4) CNN printed the contents of the addendum via a claim the addendum had been shown to Trump and that it was treated as possibly true.
5) Shitlibs are crowing about how they know it is false and don't care qnd intend to lie qbout Trump in the future.
So what we have is an IC and press corps colluding and running DOMESTIC black ops against the President and shitlibs cheering and wanting more.
What you wanna bet Trump finds the current Admin is involved too? They are his appointees.
1) IC called a briefing on Russian Hacking.
2) IC leaked the briefing material and an addendum to the report on Disinformation which was never shown to Trump.
3) Buzzfeed printed the entire set of documents.
4) CNN printed the contents of the addendum via a claim the addendum had been shown to Trump and that it was treated as possibly true.
5) Shitlibs are crowing about how they know it is false and don't care qnd intend to lie qbout Trump in the future.
So what we have is an IC and press corps colluding and running DOMESTIC black ops against the President and shitlibs cheering and wanting more.
What you wanna bet Trump finds the current Admin is involved too? They are his appointees.
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Yes. And desperate to what? Stop an elected president. But this is not a big deal.The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Didn't you say, a few posts back, that this similar to the Birther BS? Would it have been newsworthy if four intel agencies told Obama that people had come up with the Birther nonsense?nafod wrote:It is news that the Intel bubbas briefed them on this. If the document is fake, then that is news too. That is what CNN did.Turdacious wrote:Fact is that neither CNN nor BuzzFeed met basic journalistic ethics or standards on this story. This is an unforced error.nafod wrote:Trumpistas will wring their hands and fret. The rest of folks will at a minimum see fake but accurate.
Buzzfeed not so much.
If there's news here, it's that the intel agencies are this desperate.
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Anyone with knowledge of Blair's Labour Party knows this Steele type. A propagandist and disinformation specialist. David Corns asset. It is to laugh.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01 ... ign=buffer
I am calling within a 2 weeks they'll report he never existed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01 ... ign=buffer
I am calling within a 2 weeks they'll report he never existed.
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read this bennie, then get your doctor to adjust your dosage.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /96465040/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /96465040/
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That doesn't contradict anything I have said.
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Hillary Clinton, of course, has also not been an elected official for the past 7 or 8 years.tonkadtx wrote:this is no more nefarious than Clinton's ties to overseas money, and less so, because he wasn't an elected official until November.
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Appointed as Secretary of State for the United States until 2013, some would argue a more powerful position than any elected office except President and any appointed office except perhaps Sec Def or Supreme Court Justice. Strong indications she sold access to her position to foreign governments.Hillary Clinton, of course, has also not been an elected official for the past 7 or 8 years.
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dead man walking wrote:read this bennie, then get your doctor to adjust your dosage.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /96465040/
Read the WSJ article posted above. No one actually talked to this guy. And the Orbis co-partner didn't confirm or deny anything.
It would be hard to create a more stereotypical cut out. Just enough to avoid anyone figuring anything certain out. It has offices in Belgravia ffs and Steele has no career verified. Heheheheb
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That makes it worse. IC verified the kompromat claims independently.bennyonesix wrote:dead man walking wrote:read this bennie, then get your doctor to adjust your dosage.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... /96465040/
Read the WSJ article posted above. No one actually talked to this guy.
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I don't understand what you are trying say.
Edit are you claiming the golden showers claims are independently verified? If so, by who? Or if some other kompromat claims specify which ones.
Edit are you claiming the golden showers claims are independently verified? If so, by who? Or if some other kompromat claims specify which ones.
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Just curious, whether there is in the US some penalties for slander?
It seems that not only CIA, but absolutely anyone can freely create any fake and go with it.
It seems that not only CIA, but absolutely anyone can freely create any fake and go with it.
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Yes. We have libel and slander laws. A website called Gawker was destroyed after Peter Thiel funded a lawsuit against them via Hulk Hogan. Thiel has stated publicly he is gioing after buzzfeed now. What buzzfeed did here is textbook libel of a public figure. They in serious legal jeopardy. CNN less so.
Ps. Thiel is one of Trumps top advisors.
Ps. Thiel is one of Trumps top advisors.
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Of course there are. Part of a lawsuit is discovering whether the statements are true. Trump doesn't want that.Wild Bill wrote:Just curious, whether there is in the US some penalties for slander?
DNI Clapper just slammed Buzzfeed but also confirmed the the substance of the CNN story about the Trump briefing.
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defiled the bed where OBAMA slept!!!! 

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So, those prostitutes "defiled" this sacred bed, and Trump slept on that bed after that?
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And this only first page of this report :)))