Trumpling the Russia Investigation
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I also think the media portraying him as a villain and a dufus doesn't help. Let's flip this around, Panetta let's the name of the SEAL who killed Bin Laden slip to a Hollywood director, Obama kills four American citizens by drone without a trial, IRS scandal, Fast and Furious (at least two LEO dead), he commits a massive number of Bush level malapropisms, etc. If he isn't Obama and the media (except Fox) isn't in the tank for him, how is he portrayed?
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take heart. even at the end, lots of republicans wouldn't go against nixon. nor dems against clinton. instead of political party, perhaps think "cult."tonkadtx wrote:I'm still hoping (hope is fading however) that he is the monkey wrench that is going to fuck up the whole neoliberal, neoconservative, globalist oligarchy that has been fucking with us for the last 60+ years.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/worl ... share&_r=0The classified intelligence that President Trump disclosed in a meeting last week with Russian officials at the White House was provided by Israel, according to a current and a former American official familiar with how the United States obtained the information. The revelation adds a potential diplomatic complication to the episode. Israel is one of the United States' most important allies and a major intelligence collector in the Middle East. The revelation that Mr. Trump boasted about some of Israel's most sensitive information to the Russians could damage the relationship between the two countries. It also raises the possibility that the information could be passed to Iran, Russia's close ally and Israel's main threat in the Middle East.
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And now Comey took notes about Trump asking him to drop the Flynn investigation. This week is going kinda fast.
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Just saying...
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robt mueller, former prosecutor and fbi director, named special counsel.
honest, tough, and "lives to put bad guys in jail"
stood with comey when they got bush w.h. counsel to back down as he tried to force hospitalized ashcroft to sign "illegal" order.
take a deep breath and we'll see how things go.
honest, tough, and "lives to put bad guys in jail"
stood with comey when they got bush w.h. counsel to back down as he tried to force hospitalized ashcroft to sign "illegal" order.
take a deep breath and we'll see how things go.
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First order of biz for the Special Counsel : supeana the President's taxes.

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+1seeahill wrote:First order of biz for the Special Counsel : supeana the President's taxes.
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may i put in a request for the white house audio tapes?
the complete boxed set.
the complete boxed set.
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Comey already testified earlier this month that no one has obstructed any investigation.
It's a shame that Chaffetz(?) requested ALL of Comeys memos regarding Trump, Hillary, AND Obama. Darn shame.
It's a shame that Chaffetz(?) requested ALL of Comeys memos regarding Trump, Hillary, AND Obama. Darn shame.

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did comey testifi re russian investigation? the acting director did.
chaffetz letter that i saw asks for comey memo on flynn conversation. inspection general is reviewing clinton email business, i think, a different matter.
would you include links?
chaffetz letter that i saw asks for comey memo on flynn conversation. inspection general is reviewing clinton email business, i think, a different matter.
would you include links?
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They ignored one of the fundamental rules of government-- never fuck with GS-91 who knows where all the bodies are buried.
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I can't wait to see the memo about Lynch and Clinton's tarmac meeting.It's a shame that Chaffetz(?) requested ALL of Comeys memos regarding Trump, Hillary, AND Obama. Darn shame.
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Not a lawyer, but it seems that since Justice appointed a special prosecutor and Chaffetz didn't subpeona the memos, that Justice might not have to give Chaffetz anything.
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except comey came to his conclusion on the emails without consulting lynch because he believed she was compromised.tonkadtx wrote:I can't wait to see the memo about Lynch and Clinton's tarmac meeting.It's a shame that Chaffetz(?) requested ALL of Comeys memos regarding Trump, Hillary, AND Obama. Darn shame.
talk about hillary all you want, if it makes you feel better. it's trump in the crosshairs.
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The soft coup is temporarily on hold with Mueller on the case.
Have no fear, between Donny, the Dems, and the media wing of the Progressive movement, more drama is just around the corner.
Have no fear, between Donny, the Dems, and the media wing of the Progressive movement, more drama is just around the corner.
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Right, the drama is the doing of the Dems and the media.DrDonkeyLove wrote:[between] the Dems, and the media wing of the Progressive movement, more drama is just around the corner.
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Sure he did.except comey came to his conclusion on the emails without consulting lynch because he believed she was compromised.
Agreements to destroy evidence like DNC laptops are also old hat for the FBI, I understand.
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Donny/Dems/Media = Histrionics cubed.JimZipCode wrote:Right, the drama is the doing of the Dems and the media.DrDonkeyLove wrote:[between] the Dems, and the media wing of the Progressive movement, more drama is just around the corner.
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he did.tonkadtx wrote:Sure he did.except comey came to his conclusion on the emails without consulting lynch because he believed she was compromised.
Agreements to destroy evidence like DNC laptops are also old hat for the FBI, I understand.
and if he hadn't--on his own--publicly reopened the email investigation in late oct, hillary probably wins the election. in the end, she got punished for her carelessness.
comey followed his own apolitical compass the whole way.
hillary haters are like trump haters: at least a little warped by their emotions.
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:The soft coup is temporarily on hold with Mueller on the case.
Have no fear, between Donny, the Dems, and the media wing of the Progressive movement, more drama is just around the corner.
And once again, he will find a way to act with complete incompetence so that no one can say whether he actually knows what he is doing and therefore cant prove intent. And the political democrats will continue to scream impeachment and look like a bunch of idiots. What a freaking nightmare.
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Here's another scenario.he did.
and if he hadn't--on his own--publicly reopened the email investigation in late oct, hillary probably wins the election. in the end, she got punished for her carelessness.
comey followed his own apolitical compass the whole way.
hillary haters are like trump haters: at least a little warped by their emotions.
Comey decided from day 1 that Hillary was not going to be charged, either on his own or under pressure and influence from Lynch and others. He then used lack of intent and a ridiculous explanation about "extreme carelessness", in a statute that doesn't mention intent once and where military kids are charged without intent every day, to excuse the reason Clinton was treated differently than everyone else. Realizing that under his watch the FBI had missed Nidal Hassan, the Tsarneav brothers, the San Jose shooters, that the FBI had been caught making up a whole branch of forensic science and allowing their informants to act as criminals, this would finally kill both the agencies and his personal credibility, he "re-opened" the investigation. He didn't intend to do anything, just save his shattered credibility.
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Uhhh, Trump is the President. And stupid. He's about to get Whitewater'd where you know Mueller is going to find all kinds of other stuff while looking into the collusion.Herv100 wrote: It's a shame that Chaffetz(?) requested ALL of Comeys memos regarding Trump, Hillary, AND Obama. Darn shame.
Can't wait to see those tax returns and listen to the tapes.
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possible, i suppose, but that doesn't sound like comey, who backed down a president.tonkadtx wrote:Here's another scenario.he did.
and if he hadn't--on his own--publicly reopened the email investigation in late oct, hillary probably wins the election. in the end, she got punished for her carelessness.
comey followed his own apolitical compass the whole way.
hillary haters are like trump haters: at least a little warped by their emotions.
Comey decided from day 1 that Hillary was not going to be charged, either on his own or under pressure and influence from Lynch and others. He then used lack of intent and a ridiculous explanation about "extreme carelessness", in a statute that doesn't mention intent once and where military kids are charged without intent every day, to excuse the reason Clinton was treated differently than everyone else. Realizing that under his watch the FBI had missed Nidal Hassan, the Tsarneav brothers, the San Jose shooters, that the FBI had been caught making up a whole branch of forensic science and allowing their informants to act as criminals, this would finally kill both the agencies and his personal credibility, he "re-opened" the investigation. He didn't intend to do anything, just save his shattered credibility.
in any case, karma caught up with hillary. you might say it caught up with comey, too.
now the orange puffball could get his own big breakfast of the special k.
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I also need to make a correction for fairness sake, I wrote under his watch. All those scandals broke when he was Director, but some started waaaaay before he took the job. He still ended up getting the heat for them. Perils of being the boss.