Trumpling the Russia Investigation

[seeahill]

I still have not seen anything that makes me thing replacing Mr Obama with Hilliary would have been better. The only thing they have in common is Comey would have been fired faster under Hiliary.

You lost. When you get over it you can start to understand why you lost.

Hmm, you don't smell anything the least bit fishy here?

I have been smelling and telling you drones about it since last fall. Hilliary was never destined or a lock to win and Trump was slowly and wisely kicking her ass.

Up until 9 or 10 on election night you all were still laughing and celebrating Queen Hilliary, and then it dawned on you it had gone horribly wrong. At least the Falcons knew they were up,against the best quarterback ever. You folks never questioned her or her candidacy, and now you lash about for anything, no matter how foolish, to blame or wish will get you your Hilliary.

They were idiots in the White House, idiots in the State Department, had no concept of security or secure comms, lacked an ability to speak in public, was physically frail, had a list of lies from keep your doctor to Benghazi to the IRS to I had every right to keep my own server for my official email, and ran a math and data free campaign.

And now the sore loser game continues. You are not convincing anybody except the same drones in the splattering of blue cities across the country. Keep advocating for more Muslim Immigration, more rights for illegals, more job killing regulations, more rioting, and more government run everything. And keep telling yourselves how smart you are and how dumb and racist your opponents are. See how that works out for you.

So far, not so good. Who ya gonna call now? Elizabeth Warren?

Please please please do.

Didn't answer the question.

[Grandpa's Spells]

He kind of did.

[johno]

OK, what do you Investigate-the-Russian-Connection guys expect to find?

That Trump collaborated with Putin to torpedo Hillary via Wikileaks? Or via other means? That Flynn did? That Kellyanne did?

Conspired with Comey to amplify doubts about Hillary's fitness to access national secrets?

Poisoned Hillary, causing her public collapse? Suppressed public turnout for Hillary events? Made her a boring, soulless candidate?

[nafod]

OK, what do you Investigate-the-Russian-Connection guys expect to find?

short list...
That Trump has financial entanglements with Russians that compromise him.

That there were discussions of quid pro quo among members of Trump's campaign and Russians or Russian fronts.

That Trump campaign members or surrogates had advanced knowledge of Wikileaks downloads.

That Trump campaign members or surrogates suggested actions to the Russians.

That Trump has been lying about all of it, and other stuff too.

[Herv100]

McCabe just confirmed to Congress that firing Comey has no effect on Russia investigation. Also confirmed that Trump has not impeded investigation in any way this far. And this man is a Clinton fan.

There goes that FAGGOTY conspiracy theory.

[seeahill]

McCabe just confirmed to Congress that firing Comey has no effect on Russia investigation. Also confirmed that Trump has not impeded investigation in any way this far. And this man is a Clinton fan.

There goes that FAGGOTY conspiracy theory.

Whew, what a relief.

[nafod]

McCabe just confirmed to Congress that firing Comey has no effect on Russia investigation. Also confirmed that Trump has not impeded investigation in any way this far. And this man is a Clinton fan.

There goes that FAGGOTY conspiracy theory.

It just means there's another guy to fire. Stand by for an incoming twitter barrage attacking McCabe.

[Herv100]

McCabe has his own problems to deal with in the Clinton case.

[nafod]

McCabe has his own problems to deal with in the Clinton case.

He does. The twitter storm should be prodigious.

[johno]

I was pretty sure there wouldn't be an IC or special prosecutor on this until after the midterms. Team Trump has managed to raise the odds of that significantly.

Fuck Yeah! Let's investigate.

Fast & Furious
The Weaponization of the IRS & Lois Lerner's refusal to testify
Hillary's Exposure of State Secrets to Foreign Powers
Attorney General Loretta Lynch's meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac
Donald's Russian Connection

Fuck Yeah!

Name the sitting President in that bunch.

And when Obama was sitting President, did you call for those investigations?

No, none of them warranted me "getting off the sidelines" and actively yelling on the internet. Same for a number of Bush-isms.

But then none of them compared to an adversarial power (Russia) directly interfering in the foundation of our democracy (election) by colluding with one of our candidates (Trump). Not even close. This one has me as an active participant.

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

[nafod]

I was pretty sure there wouldn't be an IC or special prosecutor on this until after the midterms. Team Trump has managed to raise the odds of that significantly.

Fuck Yeah! Let's investigate.

Fast & Furious
The Weaponization of the IRS & Lois Lerner's refusal to testify
Hillary's Exposure of State Secrets to Foreign Powers
Attorney General Loretta Lynch's meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac
Donald's Russian Connection

Fuck Yeah!

Name the sitting President in that bunch.

And when Obama was sitting President, did you call for those investigations?

No, none of them warranted me "getting off the sidelines" and actively yelling on the internet. Same for a number of Bush-isms.

But then none of them compared to an adversarial power (Russia) directly interfering in the foundation of our democracy (election) by colluding with one of our candidates (Trump). Not even close. This one has me as an active participant.

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

Which case are you referring to?

[johno]

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

Which case are you referring to?

Hillary's unsecured and likely compromised email system while she was Secretary of State. Had you heard?

[Herv100]

Hey, a Dem Senator just got back from CIA headquarters!
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-NuYiEiQBg[/youtube]

[Herv100]

McCabe also today: "The investigation is adequately resourced... We don't request resources for individual cases"

[nafod]

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

Which case are you referring to?

Hillary's unsecured and likely compromised email system while she was Secretary of State. Had you heard?

We know for sure the DoS email unclass system was compromised. They should have used Hillary's server.

[nafod]

Схватить их за киску!
grab them by the pussy

[johno]

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

Which case are you referring to?

Hillary's unsecured and likely compromised email system while she was Secretary of State. Had you heard?

We know for sure the DoS email unclass system was compromised. They should have used Hillary's server.

^Pathetic rationalization. Against advice, she left Top Secret and SAP information unprotected.


This from the Democrats' newfound hero:

...Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

For example, seven e-mail chains concern matters that were classified at the Top Secret/Special Access Program level when they were sent and received. These chains involved Secretary Clinton both sending e-mails about those matters and receiving e-mails from others about the same matters. There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).

None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail.

Separately, it is important to say something about the marking of classified information. Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information. But even if information is not marked “classified” in an e-mail, participants who know or should know that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it.

While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified e-mail systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.

With respect to potential computer intrusion by hostile actors, we did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked. But, given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence. We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial e-mail accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton’s use of a personal e-mail domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent. She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail account.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press ... ail-system

[nafod]

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

Which case are you referring to?

Hillary's unsecured and likely compromised email system while she was Secretary of State. Had you heard?

We know for sure the DoS email unclass system was compromised. They should have used Hillary's server.

^Pathetic rationalization. Against advice, she left Top Secret and SAP information unprotected.

While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified e-mail systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.

So...you cite the results of an investigation to argue there should have been an investigation?

It cost her the election, and you reap what you sow. But DoS works in a unique environment.

[johno]

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

Which case are you referring to?

Hillary's unsecured and likely compromised email system while she was Secretary of State. Had you heard?

We know for sure the DoS email unclass system was compromised. They should have used Hillary's server.

^Pathetic rationalization. Against advice, she left Top Secret and SAP information unprotected.

While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified e-mail systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.

So...you cite the results of an investigation to argue there should have been an investigation?

This part of the discussion was in response to your saying none of the Obama/Hillary hijinks met your standard for concern. That's why I questioned you about Hillary's emails.
Apparently, you're unconcerned that Hillary exposed Top Secret and SAP information on her private server.

But the email issue could be further investigated and Comey's legal conclusion could be revisited, AFAIK. Unless the statute of limitations has run.

*****

As I said before, let's break it all out and subject our politicians to real scrutiny. Not work things out in secret with the AG on the airport tarmac.

[nafod]

Apparently, you're unconcerned that Hillary exposed Top Secret and SAP information on her private server.

You're right, because I saw a lot of it. Combination of ignorance on class guides, changing class info, and pressure to accomplish the mission, mixed in with the shitty DoS IT system or even lack of a system when outside the wire.

The bigger issue, if security is actually a real concern, is class info on unclass networks. It matters little if it gets to the unclass side, that it is government unclass, at least back then. The DoS unclass server was cracked wide open. All that stuff was read by foreign actors, for sure, from the DoS servers. Maybe from Hillary's too.

All of the class info on her server got there via unclass government systems, where it all originated with GS employees and SES, i.e., the professionals. Think this wasn't going on for years? Normal way of their doing business? Would we have even known about all of the class spillage on unclass systems without Hillary taking a faceshot on her server? What's being done about that? How many of the people who originated the class emails onto the unclass system have been brought up on charges?

The DoS info tech back in that day sucked, I know, because I worked closely with them. Unique issues too, with for example foreigners who like email sending emails that by classification guides are instantly classified, and it is sitting on the unclass server. Constantly working "outside the fence" without access to nifty secure IT, but with a mission to do.

Good thing Trump is plussing up the DoS budget to give them the IT tools needed to do their job anywhere on the planet.

I remember some grimace-inducing emails talking around stuff on the mil side too, due to at least one party not having the right access, but the show must go on. These involved CAPTs and CDRs and COLs.

But the email issue could be further investigated and Comey's legal conclusion could be revisited, AFAIK. Unless the statute of limitations has run.

Have at it, as long as the real goal is to improve things and not just satisfy a campaign promise to "lock her up".

As I said before, let's break it all out and subject our politicians to real scrutiny. Not work things out in secret with the AG on the airport tarmac.

Never ascribe to wiliness what can be attributed to stupidity. Bill set the ball rolling that put Comey up their "showboating".

[Turdacious]

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

Which case are you referring to?

Hillary's unsecured and likely compromised email system while she was Secretary of State. Had you heard?

We know for sure the DoS email unclass system was compromised. They should have used Hillary's server.

^Pathetic rationalization. Against advice, she left Top Secret and SAP information unprotected.

While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified e-mail systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.

So...you cite the results of an investigation to argue there should have been an investigation?

It cost her the election, and you reap what you sow. But DoS works in a unique environment.

The lingering email issue, combines with Wiener sending boner pics to a 14 year old from a computer which contained emails, cost her the election.

[Wild Bill]

Схватить их за киску!
grab them by the pussy

Bad translation.
There no Russian anologue of word "pussy". In Russian "киска" its just a cat.
The only translation of "pussy" to Russian its analogue of word "cunt".

[Turdacious]

Piece by piece, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe undermined recent White House explanations about the firing of FBI Director James Comey during testimony before a Senate committee Thursday.

Since President Donald Trump’s surprise ouster of Comey on Tuesday, the White House has justified his decision, in part, by saying that the director had lost the confidence of the rank and file of the FBI as well as the public in general.

“That is not accurate,” McCabe said in a response to a senator’s question about the White House assertions. “I can tell you also that Director Comey enjoyed broad support within the FBI and still does to this day.”

The firing of Comey left the fate of the FBI’s probe into Russia’s election meddling and possible ties to the Trump campaign deeply uncertain. The investigation has shadowed Trump from the outset of his presidency, though he’s denied any ties to Russia or knowledge of any campaign coordination with Moscow.

McCabe called the investigation “highly significant” — another contradiction of the White House portrayal — and assured senators Comey’s firing will not hinder it. He promised senators he would tolerate no interference from the White House and would not provide the administration with updates on its progress.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/acting-fbi ... sia-probe/
Between this and the upcoming Senate confirmation hearings for the new director, this should be interesting.

[DrDonkeyLove]

If Hillary's leaving national secrets open to compromise by foreign agents didn't alarm you, you set a pretty high bar.

Which case are you referring to?

Hillary's unsecured and likely compromised email system while she was Secretary of State. Had you heard?

We know for sure the DoS email unclass system was compromised. They should have used Hillary's server.

^Pathetic rationalization. Against advice, she left Top Secret and SAP information unprotected.

While not the focus of our investigation, we also developed evidence that the security culture of the State Department in general, and with respect to use of unclassified e-mail systems in particular, was generally lacking in the kind of care for classified information found elsewhere in the government.

So...you cite the results of an investigation to argue there should have been an investigation?

It cost her the election, and you reap what you sow. But DoS works in a unique environment.

The lingering email issue, combines with Wiener sending boner pics to a 14 year old from a computer which contained emails, cost her the election.

I had not thought of that at all. Weiner's boner pic obsession may have been the engorged straw that broke the election camel's back.

Considering Bill's sexual shenanigans, errant erections have been a major problem in her life. Feels like something from a Greek tragedy.

[Grandpa's Spells]

The FBI raids in Annapolis today are looking interesting.