‘No Way To Prevent This’

[buckethead]

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens





ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

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[Sua Sponte]

A little dated but new enough to address one common misconception.

Large multiple-victim public shootings are exceedingly rare events, but they garner massive news attention, and the misperceptions they produce are hard to erase. When I have been interviewed by foreign journalists, even German ones, they usually start off by asking why multiple-victim public shootings are such an American problem. And of course, they are astonished when I remind them of the attacks in their own countries and point out that this is not an American problem, it is a universal problem, but with a common factor: The attacks occur in public places where civilians are banned from carrying guns.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... -r-lott-jr

[WildGorillaMan]

USA experiences far fewer bombings, both suicide and other than many other nations.

[Grandpa's Spells]

A little dated but new enough to address one common misconception.

Large multiple-victim public shootings are exceedingly rare events, but they garner massive news attention, and the misperceptions they produce are hard to erase. When I have been interviewed by foreign journalists, even German ones, they usually start off by asking why multiple-victim public shootings are such an American problem. And of course, they are astonished when I remind them of the attacks in their own countries and point out that this is not an American problem, it is a universal problem, but with a common factor: The attacks occur in public places where civilians are banned from carrying guns.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... -r-lott-jr

I don't think he reads faces well if he thinks that's astonishment

[johno]

Lefties can hardly wait one day to tap-dance in victims' blood to push their Gun Control agenda. Despicable.
I wouldn't say Jack Shit about this, but silence is acquiescence.

[Herv100]

Emo thread

[buckethead]

I love the Onion

[buckethead]

USA experiences far fewer bombings, both suicide and other than many other nations.

Why take the time to make a bomb?

[buckethead]

why multiple-victim public shootings are such an American problem. And of course, they are astonished when I remind them of the attacks in their own countries and point out that this is not an American problem, it is a universal problem,

Hmm. In the public place of schools, it seems I would be astonished as well.

The number of [school killings] in the US was only one less than in all the other 36 countries put together. In 13 of those countries there were no incidents at all, either actual or attempted.

http://qz.com/37015/how-school-killings ... -together/

But, I'm sure I just have bad information or am a "leftie" or a sheep. No possible way that maybe the answer isn't "more guns", and yet not "no guns".

[Turdacious]

why multiple-victim public shootings are such an American problem. And of course, they are astonished when I remind them of the attacks in their own countries and point out that this is not an American problem, it is a universal problem,

Hmm. In the public place of schools, it seems I would be astonished as well.

The number of [school killings] in the US was only one less than in all the other 36 countries put together. In 13 of those countries there were no incidents at all, either actual or attempted.

http://qz.com/37015/how-school-killings ... -together/

But, I'm sure I just have bad information or am a "leftie" or a sheep. No possible way that maybe the answer isn't "more guns", and yet not "no guns".

When people do these cross country comparisons, it would seem to be more useful to compare mental health policies as well. Hopefully somebody will do a study with that in mind.

[johno]

Don't be coy. Be a man and say what you mean. Don't hide behind The Onion or some other clever publication.

[buckethead]

I just did weirdo

[Schlegel]

A guy who slits three throats with a knife is not exactly the poster boy for "gun bans will fix everything".

[Grandpa's Spells]

I just did weirdo

No, what you reeeeeaaaaaly mean. The thing about Michael Moore and MSNBC and the evil magical lefty agenda masquerading as common sense.

[buckethead]

A guy who slits three throats with a knife is not exactly the poster boy for "gun bans will fix everything".

That would be especially true if someone had mentioned that "gun bans will fix everything".

[johno]

A guy who slits three throats with a knife is not exactly the poster boy for "gun bans will fix everything".

That would be especially true if someone had mentioned that "gun bans will fix everything".

And your point is…

a) you just want to have a good cry.
b) no point at all, just wanting attention. And a hug.
c) ban all guns.
d) ban black guns.
e) ban knives & guns.
f) other ____________.

What a twat.

[buckethead]

My point is I'm willing to concede we may have a problem. I'm willing to listen to potential solutions. I'm even willing to think there is no acceptable solution for Americans and this is what we might have to accept as the cost of doing business. But luckily it seems your non-twattishness has brilliant insights like
"Lefties can hardly wait one day to tap-dance in victims' blood to push their Gun Control agenda. "

[johno]

So your answer is "a." Cry it out, Bro.

[nafod]

I occasionally wonder how much more of an incident this would have been if she'd have had something more than a 5 round clip. Where she was and the number of students around and about, she'd have cleaned up with an assault rifle.

Johno, they have a mass shooting where you work yet?

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/18/us/pe ... ssted.html

[johno]

Johno, they have a mass shooting where you work yet?

Beyond snark, your point is…? Be a man, make a concrete proposal & defend it.

With your little chip shots, no one gets your point.
You want the gun control that has been so successful in Chicago? In LA? NY?
You want to round up all the psychos? You want to censor newspapers & other media, to prevent the inevitable copycats?

Which Bill of Rights freedoms do you propose to restrict?

Or do you just want to cry it out, too?


EDIT - Oops! I left out the "feel morally superior" option.

Cry it out and feel morally superior, Bro.

[Jonny Canuck]

i
Jae C. Hong/AP
After his son was killed during a deadly rampage in Santa Barbara, Calif., over the weekend, Richard Martinez made national news.

He made his way to the front of the cameras after a sheriff office press conference on Saturday, and delivered a stunning and emotional indictment of the National Rifle Association.

"Why did Chris die?" he screamed. "Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA. They talk about gun rights. What about Chris' right to live?"

During interviews in the intervening days, Martinez has talked about his son, Christopher Michaels-Martinez. With The Los Angeles Times, he talked about how his son loved to argue and how he was such a determined athlete that his team of four beat a team of eight in a junior high school game.

He told The Washington Post that he hoped to meet with Peter Rodger, father of alleged killer Elliot, to come up with a plan to keep this from happening again.

"I've been told that the shooter's father has said he wanted to devote his life to making sure that doesn't happen again. I share that with him," Martinez told the paper. "He's a father. I'm a father. He loved his son. I love my son. His son died. My son died."

He added that because he is a defense attorney, he's trained to fight, not retreat as most parents do after a tragedy like this.

In front of the CNN cameras, Martinez became emotional again and angrily attacked the Washington establishment for failing to pass gun control laws.


"Where is the leadership?" he said. "Where is the freaking politicians that will stand up and say, 'We need to do this. We're going to do something.' Those gutless bastards have done nothing, and my son died because of it. It's outrageous. Absolutely outrageous."

Something, he said, should have been done after the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary school. Those parents, he said, lost little kids.

"It's bad enough that I lost my 20-year-old. ... But those people lost their children at 6 and 7 years old. How do you think they feel, and who's talking to them now? Who's doing anything for them now?"

The NRA, by the way, has not issued a statement about Martinez.

[Jonny Canuck]

Previous post should have been quoted. I copied it from NPR

[Jonny Canuck]

Beyond snark, your point is…? Be a man, make a concrete proposal & defend it

This isn't a black and white issue. There is no single solution to this problem. Why you would force someone to solve this issue on a forum baffles me.

I have an honest question for you though, what is the first thing you think of when you here about these incidents?

It seems some groups and politicians think of the next robocall they can send out even before the names are printed in the paper.

[Fat Cat]

He should have listened to the inner "ook" of his bonobo morality cortex.

[Turdacious]

We're seeing a lot of monthly cycles align on this thread.