IGX

Anyone following the development of this?

http://www.flexcart.com/members/eliteft ... 0&pid=2943

Here's the description:

What is The Strong(er) Workout Phase 1?

Notes From Dave Tate

This workout is designed for the serious non- competitive athlete and will span 4 main phases over the course of 12 months (each phase will be sold individually). Each phase builds on the next with the end result leaving you in the best shape of your life. You will be stronger and leaner than you could ever imagine.

Did you know most programs you read and buy today have never been tested on anyone?

Phase one has been BETA tested with 54 volunteers and adjustments have been made based on their feedback and results. These same volunteers will also be BETA testing phase 2-4 to ensure the program has the highest success rate. This is the only way I would do this because I feel anything less is just an estimated guess.

The goal of phase one is to correct any muscle imbalances, teach how to cycle intensity, build muscle mass, and get a feel for how to cycle your diet (the associated diet sections have been designed by Justin Harris).

This phase consists all workouts and diet for a total of 16 weeks broken down into:

Phase 1.1 GPP

Phase 1.2 Muscle Building

Phase 1.3 Recovery

I have added an FAQ section based on all the questions that were asked during the BETA testing.

This workout can be done in any setting from a home gym to a full commercial gym so your results are not based on any special equipment.

I purchased it out of pure curiosity.

If you have any specific questions I can attempt to answer them.

I've only been seriously lifting/training for about a year and a half, so I'm not sure that this program would be worth spending money on. I did Rippetoe's Starting Strength routine for the majority of last year and made a lot of gains, but in many ways I'm still new to the lifting game.

Tate's advertisement offers the caveat that one should have trained at least 3-5 years before doing the Stronger(er) workout. Then again, the routine is touted as something for anybody not training for a sport, and is instead for anybody who wants to be in great shape. Generally those guys at EliteFTS have things figured out, so I tend to "buy in" to their claims.

I guess I'm just curious about the program too, but I don't have money to spare. My goals are to get stronger in the big three, develop better GPP and conditioning, and lower my bf%. My plan is to work the big three, do some long cycle kettlebell stuff, and keep eating clean. I wonder if this book can give me any useful ideas.

Specific questions: Are the routines complicated? I.e., if I were to follow the program, would I have to monopolize two or three areas of the gym in order to get through one of their GPP workouts? Are machines used? Is the dieting advice supplement-heavy?

Jake Patrick wrote:Specific questions: Are the routines complicated? I.e., if I were to follow the program, would I have to monopolize two or three areas of the gym in order to get through one of their GPP workouts?

They're some what complicated in the way they are written. You definitely have to read over them a couple of times to understand what the hell you're supposed to do on that particular day. For example strength days are prescribed and rotated but depending on what day they fall as they are rotated, determines exactly how you are to perform them. Phase 1.2 also calls for specific diet protocols on specific days.

There's also specific tempos prescribed for various lifts.

This all means that you'll have to write it all out and bring the notes to the gym if you're a "by the book" type.

Regarding the "GPP workouts - These are listed as HIIT and Metabolic Training. In addition the manual gives you 4 sample sessions for Phase 1.1 & 1.2. There are no sessions prescribed for 1.3. The samples include: Treadmill Intervals, Prowler Intervals, Tredmill/Sled Dragging, and Sled Dragging in 1.1. 1.2 samples include Treadmill Intervals, Prowler Intervals, Strongman Circuit, and a "Results Circuit." The manual also encourages you to develop your own routine if need be.

By the way -

Phase 1.1 has 3 strength days, PLUS two sessions of "steady state cardio" and 1 session of HIIT which can be completed on any preferred day.

Phase 1.2 calls for 3 strength days, PLUS 2 days steady state cardio and 2 days HIIT. The HIIT are not to be on training days. FOCK!

Theres also suggested warm ups and post workout restoration given.

Jake Patrick wrote:Are machines used?

Yes. A quick glance shows: pull-downs, GHR, Reverse Hypers, Pec Deck, Leg Press, Leg Curls, and Cable Curls. There may be more, but hopefully this answers the question.

Jake Patrick wrote:Is the dieting advice supplement-heavy?

Some supplementation is advised with the nutrition around the workout. The rest is pretty comprehensive with macronutrient recommendations, etc.

Thank ya sir.

Sounds like it's not for me yet.

Think you'll follow any of that in your training?

Jake Patrick wrote:Thank ya sir.

Sounds like it's not for me yet.

Think you'll follow any of that in your training?

I am considering it, but don't think so. The lifting, followed by cardio isn't really my thing. Throwing HIIT on top of all that would tie up a ton of my time and I'm not really in the gym that much.

That said, if you're a gym rat and in there 5 days a week, this might be good for you.

What he recommends in the book is sound, of course, but IMO, there's a lot of filler. A thinking IGx'er can read the WFR diet article by Garm and download WS4SB v.3.0 and do the "Washed-up Meathead" routine absolutely FREE! and get to the same place...but if you want the routine absolutely laid out for you, S(er) is ok for your library.

JMO.

Agreed, it's not the strong(est) program they've ever released, IMO. The t-shirts are kind of cool though.