Discovering Ardi

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:05 am

Discovery channel documentary on the discovery of Ardipithecus Ramidis, a 4.4M yr old homonid.

Mike Rowe narrates and it's very well produced. however, 2 hours is somewhat tedious for the tidbits of good stuff. The subsequent hour-long "Understanding Ardi" was much more rich in content but required a little back knowledge.

Anyway, worth DVR'ing a rerun if you're interested in evolution, transitional species, or pictures of naked homonids.

Highlights.
- 4.4M yr old skeleton vice 3.2M yr old Lucy (Australopithecus)
- Definitely Bipedal (the single determining factor of human lineage)
- Had a grasping big toe like apes, so lived in trees, had a different bipedal gate than us, and could not walk/run long distances.
- Came from woodlands, not Savannah (other flora fossils found provided this data)
- Had small canine which meant some way other than fighting to get mate (brought food?)
- Had small brain like apes.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:22 am

BucketHead wrote:- 4.4M yr old skeleton vice 3.2M yr old Lucy

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:49 pm

Did she die a natural death, or was she eaten by neanderthals?

JamesonBushmill · Post by **JamesonBushmill** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:55 pm

The Unflushable DEATHTURD wrote:Did she die a natural death, or was she eaten by neanderthals?

Eaten then raped, i would imagine.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:01 pm

JamesonBushmill wrote:
The Unflushable DEATHTURD wrote:Did she die a natural death, or was she eaten by neanderthals?
Eaten then raped, i would imagine.

Only if they were ne@nderth@ls.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Sun Oct 18, 2009 7:22 am

I was in Addis Ababa last week, and visited the National Museum where Lucy is stored. Big banner out front proclaiming her presence. They're very proud of her. No mention was made of Ardi. I'd read of it and asked them about it, got the, "No, no...Lucy is the oldest." They did finally fess up and admit that Lucy is actually located in a museum in New York right now, and theirs is a facsimile.

Andy77 · Post by **Andy77** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:38 pm

nafod wrote:I was in Addis Ababa last week, and visited the National Museum where Lucy is stored. Big banner out front proclaiming her presence. They're very proud of her. No mention was made of Ardi. I'd read of it and asked them about it, got the, "No, no...Lucy is the oldest." They did finally fess up and admit that Lucy is actually located in a museum in New York right now, and theirs is a facsimile.

Archaeologists and museums need to do something to keep their gubmint grants flowing.

IGX

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