War and Peace

Hebrew Hammer · Post by **Hebrew Hammer** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 1:02 am

I read this on a cruise to the Baltic Sea ending up in Saint Petersburg. It follows three families, in peace and during the Napoleon campaigns against Russia running through 1812.

It sprawls – love, money, betrayal, family cruelty and loyalty, Freemasonry, military strategy, serfdom and freeing serfs, Orthodoxy, courage, cowardice, recklessness and duels. The book digs deep into three spectacular characters- Pierre Bezukhov a gentle outsider seeking life’s meaning; Prince Andrey Bolkonsky, a strong-willed free-thinking man transformed by war; and Natasha Rostov, a beautiful, impulsive, yearning girl whose loves and passions fuel most of the story.

There are scenes of war and a fox hunt that will burn into your memory, and if you’re every invited to a Russian aristocrat’s ball, you’ll feel right at home.

The paperback new translation by Anthony Briggs has a list of characters to keep track of everyone, maps to follow the military battles and strategy, and footnotes to follow many of the unfamiliar references. It also translates all the book’s French into English.

lasalle · Post by **lasalle** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:36 pm

Anna Karenina did me in for the rest of my life on Tolstoy, and for that matter every Russian author ever. I hated every page after page 1.

I commend you on getting through it-I know many that have tried.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:44 pm

I read his version a few years ago. Killer story.

Tolstoy goes on his rants about the great people theory of history and how it is total BS, how if Napoleon hadn't shown up to lead France in invading Russia that someone else would have, etc. I thought he should have ended each of those chapters with a hearty "But I digress..."

Shapecharge · Post by **Shapecharge** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:58 pm

Three time attempter here...never made it more than thirty or forty pages.

Hebrew Hammer · Post by **Hebrew Hammer** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:40 pm

Shapecharge wrote:Three time attempter here...never made it more than thirty or forty pages.

Good book to bring along for a relaxing camping vacation.

Andy77 · Post by **Andy77** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:21 pm

I read the French version when I was in HS 10th grade one afternoon for the helluva it. It follows three families, in peace and during the Napoleon campaigns against Russia running through 1812.

It sprawls – love, money, betrayal, family cruelty and loyalty, Freemasonry, military strategy, serfdom and freeing serfs, Orthodoxy, courage, cowardice, recklessness and duels. The book digs deep into three spectacular characters- Pierre Bezukhov a gentle outsider seeking life’s meaning; Prince Andrey Bolkonsky, a stung free-thinking man transformed by war; and Natasha Rostov, a beautiful, impulsive, yearning girl whose loves and passions fuel most of the story.

There are scenes of war and a fox hunt that will burn into your memory, and if you’re every invited to a Russian aristocrat’s ball, you’ll feel right at home.

Pretty good but I was bored by the time I finished it.

The paperback new translation by Anthony Briggs has a list of characters to keep track of everyone, maps to follow the military battles and strategy, and footnotes to follow many of the unfamiliar references. It also translates all the book’s French into English.

Hebrew Hammer · Post by **Hebrew Hammer** » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:30 pm

Andy77 wrote:I read the French version when I was in HS 10th grade one afternoon for the helluva it. I also played for the New York Jets in Super Bowl III, have over 20 world weightlifting records, was one of the first American astronauts, and I never get sick.

Andy77 · Post by **Andy77** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:03 am

Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Andy77 wrote:I read the French version when I was in HS 10th grade one afternoon for the helluva it. I also played for the New York Jets in Super Bowl III, have over 20 world weightlifting records, was one of the first American astronauts, and I never get sick.

Notice: Hebrew Hammer continues lie about me. I did not play in Superbowl III. And I was never an astronaut.

Hebrew Hammer · Post by **Hebrew Hammer** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:54 pm

Andy77 wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Andy77 wrote:I read the French version when I was in HS 10th grade one afternoon for the helluva it. I also played for the New York Jets in Super Bowl III, have over 20 world weightlifting records, was one of the first American astronauts, and I never get sick.
Notice: Hebrew Hammer continues lie about me. My position today is that I did not play in Superbowl III. And I was never an astronaut. I reserve the right to amend these claims at any time depending on my mental status and medications.

Andy77 · Post by **Andy77** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:43 am

Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Andy77 wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:
Andy77 wrote:I read the French version when I was in HS 10th grade one afternoon for the helluva it. I also played for the New York Jets in Super Bowl III, have over 20 world weightlifting records, was one of the first American astronauts, and I never get sick.
Notice: Hebrew Hammer continues lie about me. My position today is that I did not play in Superbowl III. And I was never an astronaut. I reserve the right to amend these claims at any time depending on my mental status and medications.

Hebrew is the lyingest sarcasticest most selfishest truth pervertingest kike that ever lived on this planet.

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:01 am

Shapecharge wrote:Three time attempter here...never made it more than thirty or forty pages.

So am i :) But only two attempts.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:40 pm

Wild Bill wrote:
Shapecharge wrote:Three time attempter here...never made it more than thirty or forty pages.
So am i :) But only two attempts.

Sounds like me with Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow.

IGX

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