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bigpeach · Post by **bigpeach** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:23 pm

Fat Cat wrote:Actually Palestine was the target of an aggressive pan-European emigration movement by Jews during the late nineteenth and early twentieth century called "Zionism". Perhaps you've heard of Theodor Herzl?

Yeah, and the Brits did a good job for decades maintaining a small yearly quota, even in the years immediately following WWII and the holocaust, despite pressure from all over Europe to let all the Jews move in. (The rest of Europe framed it as a favor to let the Jews relocate, kinda like it is a favor to fly a homeless man to Hawaii) Truman really stepped up the pressure with the UN and then the Brits gave up and let the UN take control, who then let hundreds of thousands of Jews enter.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:28 pm

The British were in charge of Palestine for a mere 26 years. The Zionist movement began in the 1890s. And the reason the British limited it was because they didn't want their territories flooded by Jews fleeing Hitler.

Kraj 2.0 · Post by **Kraj 2.0** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:40 pm

Fat Cat wrote:And the reason the British limited it was because they didn't want their territories flooded by Jews fleeing Hitler.

Why not? Such noble people of The Book. They surely would've turned it into a beacon of democracy and tolerance. Damn anti-Semitic Brits.

Beer Jew · Post by **Beer Jew** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:53 pm

Kraj 2.0 wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:And the reason the British limited it was because they didn't want their territories flooded by Jews fleeing Hitler.
Why not? Such noble people of The Book. They surely would've turned it into a beacon of democracy and tolerance. Damn anti-Semitic Brits.

Your proximity bias is blinding you to these very things happening in your own country. Every society has bad apples. Is America defined by the minority black communities any more than Israel is defined by the minority haredi communities? Perspective- you can haz it?

DARTH · Post by **DARTH** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:45 am

Kraj 2.0 wrote:
DARTH wrote:I love it. Your telling a fucking Navy Capt. who has served in that part of the world to stop being naive as you engage in one of the oldist naive jokes in the book, jew hate. Maybe if your and my fucking Jesus Santa fucking Clause Christ fearing ancestors did not take those people and turn them into bankers because the inbred in Rome would not let Christians charge Christians intrest you'd have more of a point but the shit people bitch about Jews and Isreal about is fucking gay. We made them bankers and money people. Our persecutions forced them even more inward. They were smart enough to make being a proffessional an honored part of their culture.
You talk shit about your ancestors, denigrating what they stood for, while slurping on the Jews and praising them with every breath. Inferiority complex much?

Man you don't even know me OL, let alone in RL To be any more proud of my ancestors I'd have to be a fucking white supremist.

I'm not talking shit about my ancestors, I am being honest about what they had a hand in. If you have European blood, then you come from Christians, who did not used to be able to lend money and charge intrest because of the Church but it was OK for a Jew to lend money and charge intrest. The Kings, Dukes, Chamberlines and other Boss men of Europe would all have their own Jews so they can lend each other money through the Jews and charge intrest.

I have respect for those who see what they want and go for it. That is what we white people did here in the US and I do no navel gazing and I am not sorry in the least. To me to bitch about the Isreali's doing the same is hypocrisy. Damn right I admire a people who outnumbered took Palistine, renamed it and then defended it against Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Palistinian Arabs.

I have respect for a Nation that puts it's people above anyone else instead of the bullshit we have been doing since the 1960s. Maybe after being punked by the Turks, Germans and Russians, you Slavs could learn a thing or 2 from the Isreali's instead of emulating the Nazi's like you all did as soon as the Soviet yoke was lifted. Now Fat Cat is going to come on here and compare the Isreali's to the Nazi's. Well the Jews beat the Jawas in Combat, not by rounding them up in gasing them in camps.

Do I have issues with Isreal? Sure but for the most part they are past issues. Sure I do thhink we stabbed the Brits in the back with early support for Isreal, that rankles me but that was the 1940s. The Liberty should have been avenged and the commander of the US Carrier on station was launching a retalitory strike on the Isreali bases. That should have been allowed to happen to teach David you don't smack your Dad, even by mistake without Dad knocking you on your ass but LBJ stopped it. As for the last, Pollard, I'd cut his fucking head off and send it to the Isreali Embasssey in a box.

Kraj 2.0 · Post by **Kraj 2.0** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:32 am

DARTH wrote:F-
*See me after class*

Man you don't even know me OL, let alone in RL To be any more proud of my ancestors I'd have to be a fucking white supremist.

I'm not talking shit about my ancestors, I am being honest about what they had a hand in. If you have European blood, then you come from Christians, who did not used to be able to lend money and charge intrest because of the Church but it was OK for a Jew to lend money and charge intrest. The Kings, Dukes, Chamberlines and other Boss men of Europe would all have their own Jews so they can lend each other money through the Jews and charge intrest.

I have respect for those who see what they want and go for it. That is what we white people did here in the US and I do no navel gazing and I am not sorry in the least. To me to bitch about the Isreali's doing the same is hypocrisy. Damn right I admire a people who outnumbered took Palistine, renamed it and then defended it against Egypt, Jordan, Syria and the Palistinian Arabs.

I have respect for a Nation that puts it's people above anyone else instead of the bullshit we have been doing since the 1960s. Maybe after being punked by the Turks, Germans and Russians, you Slavs could learn a thing or 2 from the Isreali's instead of emulating the Nazi's like you all did as soon as the Soviet yoke was lifted. Now Fat Cat is going to come on here and compare the Isreali's to the Nazi's. Well the Jews beat the Jawas in Combat, not by rounding them up in gasing them in camps.

Do I have issues with Isreal? Sure but for the most part they are past issues. Sure I do thhink we stabbed the Brits in the back with early support for Isreal, that rankles me but that was the 1940s. The Liberty should have been avenged and the commander of the US Carrier on station was launching a retalitory strike on the Isreali bases. That should have been allowed to happen to teach David you don't smack your Dad, even by mistake without Dad knocking you on your ass but LBJ stopped it. As for the last, Pollard, I'd cut his fucking head off and send it to the Isreali Embasssey in a box.

Beer Jew · Post by **Beer Jew** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:08 am

Ah, spelling mistakes. The last refuge of a lost argument.

Kraj 2.0 · Post by **Kraj 2.0** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:42 am

Beer Jew wrote:Ah, spelling mistakes. The last refuge of a lost argument.

The only thing that's lost is a few brain cells reading your nonsense. Just because someone pulls some BS out of their ass doesn't mean I'm going to waste my time trying to refute it. There's a reason Jews have been kicked out of every civilized country at one point or another and are universally loathed. Maybe you should look in the mirror and ask yourself why that is. I'll give you a hint: It's not jealousy.

Beer Jew · Post by **Beer Jew** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:33 am

Correct. Historically, jews kicked out of countries have been a massive minority. You observe the same thing in school yards, when the bigger kid picks on the smaller kid, because he doesn't have the balls to go and pick on an even bigger kid. It's called bullying.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:15 pm

So you are history's bottom bitch. Good luck with that.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:33 pm

Fat Cat wrote:So you are history's bottom bitch. Good luck with that.

Bottom bitch is the best bitch to be, if you have to be a bitch.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom_girl

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:37 pm

I guess you have to be a bitch.

powerlifter54 · Post by **powerlifter54** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 8:48 pm

Fat Cat wrote:I guess you have to be a bitch.

Ask Egypt

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:13 pm

Oh Egypt is a huge bitch, but that's just two little hoes fighting.

Kraj 2.0 · Post by **Kraj 2.0** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:18 am

powerlifter54 wrote:Ask Egypt

Better yet, let's ask Lebanon. Flash back to '06 when a bunch of rocket-toting Lebanese farmers made the Israeli Army cry like a little girl. You remember those news reports of Israeli soldiers crying for their mommas? So much for the myth of the badass Israeli commando. LOL. Some people will believe anything Hollywood brainwashes them with.

Beer Jew · Post by **Beer Jew** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:25 am

And yet, despite the numerous attempts by various nations to rid the world of jews, the Jew lives on.

Kraj 2.0 · Post by **Kraj 2.0** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:33 am

Beer Jew wrote:And yet, despite the numerous attempts by various nations to rid the world of jews, the Jew lives on.

So do cockroaches. I wouldn't want to be either.

Beer Jew · Post by **Beer Jew** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:34 am

Cockroaches couldn't give a shit what you think. They live forever, and are gods chosen insect.

Kraj 2.0 · Post by **Kraj 2.0** » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:16 am

Beer Jew wrote:Cockroaches couldn't give a shit what you think. They live forever, and are gods chosen insect.

They also wallow in shit and live under the feet of human beings. Looks like you guys have even more in common than you thought.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:37 am

So as you probably heard, Stratfor which is a strategic intelligence consultancy (in the same way Blackwater was a "private security firm") was hacked and the results were transmitted to wikileaks. Wikileaks has begun to disseminate the retrievals and some of it is veeeerrry interesting. Normally this would be all crackpot conspiracy stuff, but all of this was intended to remain highly classified. So remember that "munitions plant explosion" in Iran a couple of months back?

wikileaks release:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/27/w ... acilities/

Growing concerns over Iran’s nuclear facilities may prove to be all for naught. Officials from the global intelligence company Stratfor allegedly discussed that Israel may have already destroyed the Iranian nuclear facility, according to one of the emails released by Wikileaks Monday.

In one of the over five million emails leaked, the conversation centered on Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak praising the news of deadly munitions blasts at a base of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards.

“I think this is a diversion. The Israelis already destroyed all the Iranian nuclear infrastructure on the ground weeks ago,” one intelligence official wrote in an email dated November 14, 2011. “The current ‘let’s bomb Iran’ campaign was ordered by the EU leaders to divert the public attention from their at home financial problems. It plays also well for the US since Pakistan, Russia and N. Korea are mentioned in the report. ”

One other Stratfor official allegedly indicated a similar finding.

“Israeli commandos in collaboration with Kurd forces destroyed few underground facilities mainly used for the Iranian defense and nuclear research projects,” he wrote on November 13, 2011. “Even if the Israelis have the capabilities and are ready to attack by air, sea and land, there is no need to attack the nuclear program at this point after the commandos destroyed a significant part of it.”

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:43 am

I blame the Masons.

tough old man · Post by **tough old man** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:45 am

Well thats a hell of a plot twist.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:45 am

tough old man wrote:Well thats a hell of a plot twist.

Totally. It makes me realize just how much we the common people are kept in the dark about the forces shaping our world.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:45 am

BZRKR ESPLAIN THE TROOF OF THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

baffled · Post by **baffled** » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:48 am

This was definitely not on the BBC earlier when I saw the Stratfor Story.

Nice link to Raw Story BTW. I always forget about that site.

IGX

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