How to raise an atheist in seven easy steps

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:17 pm

Turdacious wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:
Kraj 2.0 wrote:Leave it to you clowns to be proud of being white trash. Personally, I come from some of Europe's finest breeding stock. Rugged men and bosomy women who loved, laughed, worked and fought; all in the most noble of ways. That's something to be proud of. Not being a coon-skinnin', squirrel-eatin', backwoods cousin-fucker.

when you say "breeding stock" is that a polite way of highlighting your people's affinity for getting raped by every invading army since Alexander the Great?
Don't mock his Turkish roots!

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Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:28 pm

No no no.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:39 pm

Hmmmm???

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:46 pm

Kraj 2.0 wrote: a bunch of white-trash, mouthbreathing mutts who can't trace their roots farther than they can shoot their piss stream

Hey fuck you pal!

KingSchmaltzBagelHour · Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:51 pm

odin · Post by **odin** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:16 pm

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:
Kraj 2.0 wrote: For you to tell me that you really believe there isn't a God or a human soul yet you still live your life believing "We owe it to them (people, planet and life in general) to treat each other well" means you're either dishonest with yourself or you're a damn idiot. A true atheist -- someone who 110% believes in atheist philosophy -- could not be anything other than a cold-blooded narcissistic psychopath. To be anything other than that while still claiming you're an atheist just makes you a hypocrite.
I will never forget this topic coming-up here 5+ years ago. My daughter is my first born and was a crawling rug rat at the time. Those of you who are dads fully know how much your world perspective changes when your first child is born. No matter how many have told us our view changes, none of us 'got it' until we became fathers. I had my doubts about God for most of my life, to include calling myself an atheist in my teens, but they left when my daughter was born.

I (respectfully) asked the atheists if they love their families (specifically, their kids). The resounding and mostly snippety responses were "of course I do! What does that have to do with God, asshole????" That kind of thing. I think it was Andy who said science proved that love is just some function of our brain and nothing more, ect. Given their hardcore and dismissive responses to a higher power in ever other aspect of their lives or humanity, when it came to family, things got touchy.

I don't believe that animals 'love' their mates or offspring (and no, your fucking dogs and/or cats and/or birds and/or fish don't love you, no matter how much you or I 'love' them, either). They don't conceptualize faith, the future or the afterlife, either. I'm not a religious guy per se, but those and many more gifts (and challenges) must come from some sort of higher power to humans, for whatever reason, IMHO.

I can't see how a bonafide, hardcore, true to the bone atheist can possibly 'love' a family. What would be the point if every other aspect of your life is simply for the collective survival of us as organisms?

I'm not finger pointing here, I just can't see how people who call themselves atheists can cherish anything.

all depends on perspective, how you define atheism & theism & what your background is.

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:03 pm

LOL

Gotta believe in GAWD to love!

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:11 pm

And I don't claim to be an atheist. I just don't know if there is a GAWD and I can't trust in faith at this point in my life.

Live, believe what you believe, and be happy.

I know I'll never be as important as Kraj and I can live with that.

Jonny Canuck · Post by **Jonny Canuck** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:15 pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1134 ... -the-start

In my press conference, I referred to her simply as 'a lady.' My concern was to protect my family and a previous inappropriate relationship from becoming public.

This man loves Jebus, and loves his family. He also likes to fuck little whores and lie about it when he gets caught. If there is a hell, I look forward to meeting this man and talking football with him. Now that he knows he will spend eternity rotting in hell what incentive does he have to live his life? What incentive do other Christians have to not send him there early?

The Crawdaddy · Post by **The Crawdaddy** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:07 pm

I believe that the judeo-christian concept you are searching for is forgiveness and absolution.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:55 pm

The Crawdaddy wrote:I believe that the judeo-christian concept you are searching for is forgiveness and absolution.

Even though Jesus was an unemployed carpenter and the entire Jewish tradition that preceded him was the ravings of an Egyptian slave race, I embrace their concept of absolution and forgive Kraj for being a dour little crabbypants.

See how we all learn and grow through Love?

The Crawdaddy · Post by **The Crawdaddy** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:08 am

Bless you my son. Now, go forth and multiply.

Wait, was that blasphemy? <shrug>

Thud · Post by **Thud** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:01 am

Now's probably a good time to understand the relationship of Easter to the Spring Equinox:

DrDonkeyLove · Post by **DrDonkeyLove** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:14 am

Thud wrote:Now's probably a good time to understand the relationship of Easter to the Spring Equinox:

Those disciples were pretty smart to get all that symbolism in place to pull the wool over our eyes like that. Same thing with the "M" for the virgin mothers of all those sun gods. All those different languages with different alphabets and, according to the narrator, it all fits perfectly with astrological "M" for Virgo.

Not to say that the days we celebrate aren't be connected to astrology - I get Christmas and Easter - but I don't see the extensive, elaborate, and very neat connections that this guy does. My spidey bullshit sense is tingling.

Thud · Post by **Thud** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:26 am

I'm not a linguist, but I don't think it's a stretch to assume that both the myth and the "M" glyph predate the subsequent myths and alphabets. If the myth could be passed on so too could the glyph. Such is my assumption, anyway.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:28 am

Well, I have a degree in religion and I want to tell you that that video is, quite apart from my own personal beliefs and putting it very gently, not academically rigorous.

Thud · Post by **Thud** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:40 am

Fat Cat wrote:Well, I have a degree in religion and I want to tell you that that video is, quite apart from my own personal beliefs and putting it very gently, not academically rigorous.

By what standard? Break it down.

Thud · Post by **Thud** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:27 am

This 31 page pdf is footnoted, if that adds rigor:

http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/ ... ianity.pdf

This is a more casual take, for those not wishing as "rigorous" a look:

http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chri ... ate-jesus/

The argument being that the myth of Jesus is an amalgam of pre-existent gods and myths, some of which were also sun gods.

Schlegel · Post by **Schlegel** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:28 am

Thud wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Well, I have a degree in religion and I want to tell you that that video is, quite apart from my own personal beliefs and putting it very gently, not academically rigorous.

By what standard? Break it down.

Uh, well, for example, most of things they say are part of the Horus myth that are just like Jesus don't actually exist in Egyptian mythology. Just for an example, let's start with "Born of a Virgin". Virginity is not an attribute of Isis. Not one tiny bit. Nor is anything that sounds like "Mary" any part of her name. Their first example, and they are making shit up that any casual student of ancient Egypt will recognize as false. Do some religions have parallels and/or antecedents? Sure. But they should at least give actual examples.

Yes, I'm drunk · Post by **Yes, I'm drunk** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:32 am

Thud wrote:Now's probably a good time to understand the relationship of Easter to the Spring Equinox:

David Icke uses this stuff verbatim in his lectures. Make of that what you will.....

EDIT: It's funny who you'll get into bed with when the cause dictates thus, isn't it?

Yes, I'm drunk · Post by **Yes, I'm drunk** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:38 am

Sigmund Freud, although not so much in vogue these days, had a lot to say about the sort of daddy issues that Blaid Dog exhibits on these matters religious.

Schlegel · Post by **Schlegel** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:39 am

Thud wrote:This 31 page pdf is footnoted, if that adds rigor:

http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/ ... ianity.pdf

This is a more casual take, for those not wishing as "rigorous" a look:

http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chri ... ate-jesus/

The argument being that the myth of Jesus is an amalgam of pre-existent gods and myths, some of which were also sun gods.

That PDF gives the same inaccurate info on Horus that the video does. One caught in one set of fabrications, you can't trust anything it says without checking for yourself.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:42 am

Schlegel-- there's a big difference between science and sci@nc@.

Jonny Canuck · Post by **Jonny Canuck** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:54 am

wait a minute, are people who believe in the bible questioning others about inaccurate information? This is rich!

Jesus could walk on water
Moses split the red sea
Jonah lived in the ocean inside a whale for three days

The sun revolves around the earth
etc, etc, etc

oh, and it's ok for religious leaders to fondle little boys

kbbadazz · Post by **kbbadazz** » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:03 am

LMAO at someone pulling out Zeitgeist. The religious section from that has been refuted. The main "source" from that video is this new age hippy cunt named Acharya S who gets messages from spirits. The vids destroying her are pretty funny.

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