This is pretty funny

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:02 pm

funny, to me

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has declared that there is no proof that in-person voter fraud is a problem. He's about to see proof that even he can't deny.

In a new video provided to Breitbart.com, James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas demonstrates why Holder should stop attacking voter ID laws--by walking into Holder’s voting precinct and showing the world that anyone can obtain Eric Holder’s primary ballot. Literally.

The video shows a young man entering a Washington, DC polling place at 3401 Nebraska Avenue, NW, on primary day of this year--April 3, 2012--and giving Holder’s name and address. The poll worker promptly offers the young man Holder’s ballot to vote.
The young man then suggests that he should show his ID; the poll worker, in compliance with DC law, states: “You don’t need it. It’s all right. As long as you’re in here, you’re on our list, and that’s who you say you are, you’re okay.”

The young man replies: “I would feel more comfortable if I just had my ID. Is it alright if I go get it?" The poll worker agrees.

"I’ll be back Faster than you can say Furious,” the young man jokes on his way out, in a reference to the Fast and Furious gunwalking scandal that has plagued Holder’s Department of Justice.

Holder has maintained that voter fraud is not a major problem in the United States, and that voter ID would not curb voter fraud in any case.

As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.

Project Veritas has already shown how dead people can vote in New Hampshire, prompting the state senate to pass a voter ID law; they’ve also shown people can use celebrity names like Tim Tebow and Tom Brady to vote in Minnesota, prompting the state legislature to put voter ID on the ballot as a constitutional amendment.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:06 pm

As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.

Is there any evidence of this?

Kazuya Mishima · Post by **Kazuya Mishima** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:29 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.
Is there any evidence of this?

Yes, when you see a nigger church bus full of niggers heading to the polls you can bet that there's some voter fraud afoot.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:36 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.
Is there any evidence of this?

Evidence that meets the Chicago definition of unacceptable voter fraud? Probably not.

WildGorillaMan · Post by **WildGorillaMan** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:39 pm

It's cute how some of you seem to think you still have elections at all.

Pinky · Post by **Pinky** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:55 pm

Turdacious wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.
Is there any evidence of this?
Evidence that meets the Chicago definition of unacceptable voter fraud? Probably not.

The key word Spells is (or should be) questioning is "increasing". "Vote early and vote often" is not a recently coined phrase.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:27 pm

Yes. "may be increasingly common" is weasel argument. It also "may be decreasing," or "may be statistically insignificant."

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:33 pm

I don't read quotes

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:57 pm

Pinky wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.
Is there any evidence of this?
Evidence that meets the Chicago definition of unacceptable voter fraud? Probably not.
The key word Spells is (or should be) questioning is "increasing". "Vote early and vote often" is not a recently coined phrase.

To get technical, the question should be 'is this type of voter fraud increasing, and is it significant enough to matter in an important election?' As you point out, there are many types of voter fraud.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:33 pm

How much voter fraud is an acceptable amount of voter fraud, and are there good reasons not to reduce it, regardless?

Pinky · Post by **Pinky** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:36 pm

Turdacious wrote:
Pinky wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.
Is there any evidence of this?
Evidence that meets the Chicago definition of unacceptable voter fraud? Probably not.
The key word Spells is (or should be) questioning is "increasing". "Vote early and vote often" is not a recently coined phrase.
To get technical, the question should be 'is this type of voter fraud increasing, and is it significant enough to matter in an important election?' As you point out, there are many types of voter fraud.

This is an empirical question that cannot be answered by amusing stunts. A more important question is how much requiring identification actually restricts a person's ability to exercise a constitutional right.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:58 pm

Pinky wrote:This is an empirical question that cannot be answered by amusing stunts. A more important question is how much requiring identification actually restricts a person's ability to exercise a constitutional right.

Providing the ability for someone to easily and absolutely prove their identity would be pretty damn useful, not only in making elections more trust-worthy (Spells, not finding evidence of fraud when you know how easy it is to commit is not confidence-inspiring), but also in the whole world of commerce and identity theft. The idea that my bank giving my money to someone other than me somehow should by my problem pisses me off. The two issues are overlapping.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:45 pm

Pinky wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Pinky wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.
Is there any evidence of this?
Evidence that meets the Chicago definition of unacceptable voter fraud? Probably not.
The key word Spells is (or should be) questioning is "increasing". "Vote early and vote often" is not a recently coined phrase.
To get technical, the question should be 'is this type of voter fraud increasing, and is it significant enough to matter in an important election?' As you point out, there are many types of voter fraud.
This is an empirical question that cannot be answered by amusing stunts. A more important question is how much requiring identification actually restricts a person's ability to exercise a constitutional right.

Voter fraud has never been a factor in any major election.

Bob Wildes · Post by **Bob Wildes** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:09 pm

Turdacious wrote:
Pinky wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Pinky wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
As Project Veritas has proven, voter fraud is easy and simple--and may be increasingly common in the absence of voter ID laws.
Is there any evidence of this?
Evidence that meets the Chicago definition of unacceptable voter fraud? Probably not.
The key word Spells is (or should be) questioning is "increasing". "Vote early and vote often" is not a recently coined phrase.
To get technical, the question should be 'is this type of voter fraud increasing, and is it significant enough to matter in an important election?' As you point out, there are many types of voter fraud.
This is an empirical question that cannot be answered by amusing stunts. A more important question is how much requiring identification actually restricts a person's ability to exercise a constitutional right.
Turdacious the voter fraud that you alluded to only gave JFK two states, Illinois and Texas that election. Oh wait, that made all the difference. Never mind.

Voter fraud has never been a factor in any major election.

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