The Most Persuasive Case for Eliminating Black Studies?

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Considering that most liberal arts graduate dissertations follow along the lines of "The Use Of The Semi-Colon In The Works Of George Elliot: A Semiotic Dialectic" it looks to me as if they've achieved true equality in academia.
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Gorbachev wrote:Poor article and the usual watery group-think follow-on comments from the IGx brigade. The idea that the black experience in natural childbirth might have been overlooked and is worthy of examination is precisely the sort of idea that suits a dissertation. There is no critical analysis or counter-point in the article. Instead, it's emotive hyperbole. Lapped up here.

Romanticising blue collar jobs and decrying academic pursuit for lack of real-world application is a strong theme here. As is mixing in a bit of gratuitous "fuck blacks" speak. Doesn't it all get tiresome? Isn't it all quite embarrassing?
I actually went looking for the dissertation, out of curiosity. Many are automatically published on-line. Didn't find it, but found this...

http://blackwomenbirthingjustice.org/ca ... proposals/
Women in Africa and the African diaspora have rich traditions of midwifery and “motherwit”, rooted in the Southern states of the U.S., and in Africa and the Caribbean, that have empowered many thousands of women to give birth naturally without control and supervision by (male) medical professionals. Yet almost a century of scapegoating of “granny” and immigrant midwives, and aggressive efforts to control childbirth by the medical industry, has left many black women in the U.S. unaware of these traditions and unable to access alternatives to a medicalized and often disempowering birth experience. Far from improving maternal and infant health, the massive expansion of physician-supervised hospital births has arguably resulted in extremely poor maternal outcomes in the U.S., when compared to other industrialized nations. Black women in particular have maternal mortality rates 3 to 4 times that of white women. In Africa and the Caribbean, the adoption of a colonial obstetric model has also undermined women’s indigenous birthing knowledge. Sub-Saharan Africa has the highest infant and maternal mortality rates in the world due to a complex mix of factors, however development approaches to this problem frequently involve training of midwives/sage-femmes in contested Western medical practices. Black women’s experience of the medicalization and regulation of childbirth is unique, because it has been characterized by both malign neglect and by overt state coercion. Exclusion and control have not been met passively, but have spurred both grassroots activism and covert resistance within communities in Africa and the diaspora.

Birthing Justice will be an anthology of critical essays and creative non-fiction that explore African American, African, Caribbean and diasporic women’s experiences of childbirth from a radical social justice perspective.
So it seems to be a hot topic in certain circles.
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Gorbachev wrote:Poor article and the usual watery group-think follow-on comments from the IGx brigade. The idea that the black experience in natural childbirth might have been overlooked and is worthy of examination is precisely the sort of idea that suits a dissertation. There is no critical analysis or counter-point in the article. Instead, it's emotive hyperbole. Lapped up here.

Romanticising blue collar jobs and decrying academic pursuit for lack of real-world application is a strong theme here. As is mixing in a bit of gratuitous "fuck blacks" speak. Doesn't it all get tiresome? Isn't it all quite embarrassing?
Promoting degrees with limited applicability, which require significant student loan debt to get-- all as a way to support a limited number of academics-- sure seems like exploitation to me (never mind that a lot of universities whore out the real work to adjuncts-- that's a different topic).

Doing a thesis like the ones described above as part a degree in history, political science, or public policy would be more appropriate. The graduate can state in their resume they got a degree in History with an emphasis in Queer/Black/Ethnic Studies etc... The payoff will likely be the same as stating that your degree in any of the aforementioned specialties. They also have the option of stating their degree is in History, Poly Sci, or Policy without mentioning the focus.
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Disagree with basically zero respect, Turd.

Outside of pure science or mathematics, a university education is about lighting the fire of academic curiosity, instilling some sort of rigour and intellectual framework and launching the graduate into "the real world" to start a job and hone their skills to do it. So business, journalism, law, banking, administration and a thousand other professional positions have recruiters who look at academic pedigree not as providing a ready-made skill set but as a marker of application and ability.

Plus, you followed me around from thread to thread for about 3 months with Proto calling me "Rant" even after someoe with a (bigger) brain told you to look at syntax not content. So your opinion is most welcome but doesn't carry a lot of weight.
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Gorbachev wrote:Disagree with basically zero respect, Turd.

Outside of pure science or mathematics, a university education is about lighting the fire of academic curiosity, instilling some sort of rigour and intellectual framework and launching the graduate into "the real world" to start a job and hone their skills to do it. So business, journalism, law, banking, administration and a thousand other professional positions have recruiters who look at academic pedigree not as providing a ready-made skill set but as a marker of application and ability.
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I was once offered a full ride scholarship to the Black Studies program at Howard University for my work in identifying the frizzy gene that makes nigger hair so nappy. I told them "The only thing I care to know about Black people is where they are at night so that I can avoid those areas." We all got a good chuckle out of it and then I politely declined.

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