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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Are you kidding? Pavel made DD, not the other way around. DD becomes a footnote because of this.
I hope so. I don't see how it could be as big as DD but we'll see.

I'd pay a fair amount for a Dan John/Pavel seminar but not for any gawddamn cert.


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I'm guessing the greed that rots and infests all aspects of life in the US has something to do with this....

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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Are you kidding? Pavel made DD, not the other way around. DD becomes a footnote because of this.
this.

evil russian and tree swinging traps are all JDC marketing though.

pavel gives credit to marty gallagher for convincing him that kettlebells were even worth considering. the result was the Milo article Strossen published. blame where blame is due.

i wonder if dan john would have to give up his senior rkc status to work with pavel down the road. not that "have to" is the accurate description.

pavel has more than learned the ways of the running dog capitalists. i predict more, better things. if anything, i think the DD brand was holding him back.


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Just fyi for those of you who somehow think, for a heartbeat, that DD is some swank enterprise, let me tell you their office space is in a very seedy and rundown single story office park in a marginal neighborhood in the northern Twin Cities metro. I haven't been there in years but can only imagine it's still quite the little shitbox in terms of office space. Come to think of it, the irony rocks as it's definitely got that USSR damp & gray vibe to it. I'd be hard pressed to lease space there for a fly by night collection agency--it's that depressing, then again, maybe it keeps them off of the taxman's radar.

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High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:Just fyi for those of you who somehow think, for a heartbeat, that DD is some swank enterprise, let me tell you their office space is in a very seedy and rundown single story office park in a marginal neighborhood in the northern Twin Cities metro. I haven't been there in years but can only imagine it's still quite the little shitbox in terms of office space...
Hah- the first DD seminars (back when they were mostly about chi kung, pre-RKC in 1997-2001) were about as cheaply presented as you could possibly imagine. One time at the 18 Buddha Hands training, we were lucky to finish and get out of the hotel conference room before they closed the doors on us.

DD Publications is still really just JDC and an office staff, as far as I can tell. Given all the stuff coming out of DD publications in the last 10 years, you can't fault the man's work ethic. He makes things happen.

I hadn't thought of a DJ/Pavel team up to followup on the seeming success of "Easy Strength". Laree handling Pavel would be a fine thing to see.
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gist718 wrote:As an outsider the two had a long and profitable run. At some point business slowed down. They were the first ones to offer cast kettlebells and imo that was the foundation of DD and charged very high prices, it also allowed them to have seminars, as new manufacturers came on the scene offering cheaper kettlebells you knew they were going to wash out sooner or later. But they lasted a lot longer than all other contemporary gurus like Sonnon and Furey.
Oh, and I don't know about Furey, but Sonnon appears to be going strong. I hate the whole "TacFit" thing, but it appears to making him money. (Could be wrong, it just looks that way from here).
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High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:Just fyi for those of you who somehow think, for a heartbeat, that DD is some swank enterprise, let me tell you their office space is in a very seedy and rundown single story office park in a marginal neighborhood in the northern Twin Cities metro. I haven't been there in years but can only imagine it's still quite the little shitbox in terms of office space. Come to think of it, the irony rocks as it's definitely got that USSR damp & gray vibe to it. I'd be hard pressed to lease space there for a fly by night collection agency--it's that depressing, then again, maybe it keeps them off of the taxman's radar.

It's amazing what the wizard can whip-up behind the dragon's curtain of Oz.

When I went to the cert in 03, there were a bunch of hoodrats at the school it was held at. Smoking dope and talking the kind of shit that would have made Kaz grab them by their skinny ankles and bash their heads into the playground equipment.




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Shaf is right.... Pavel made DD... I got my first Pavel book in the early 2000's (PTP) and never heard of Dragon Door before then.

Pavel's popularity shuttled Dragon Door's business, they will feel this one.

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Maybe Ducane is retiring

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DD still has a lot to offer, like this:
http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/showthread.php?t=149944
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Turdacious wrote:DD still has a lot to offer, like this:
http://kbforum.dragondoor.com/showthread.php?t=149944
Smart fuckers there.

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I started to read it and after 3 sentences I got tired of it, scrolled down and saw who worte it.

Jesus H. Christ that boy don't stop.




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Maybe JDC has AIDS?

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:supz: :rock: Anal Inflicted Death Sentence! A.I.D.S! :rock: :supz:




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Eat only when hungry.

Stop when you get full.

Chew every mouthful 20-30 times.

Put down the fork or the food when chewing.

What I've told everyone I know who wanted to lose weight for years.

This isn't as big an original innovation as ~S~ is trying to make it seem.
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DARTH wrote::supz: :rock: Anal Inflicted Death Sentence! A.I.D.S! :rock: :supz:
MOD rules.

Now I'm singing the song. Thanks

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cleaner464 wrote:Eat only when hungry.

Stop when you get full.

Chew every mouthful 20-30 times.

Put down the fork or the food when chewing.

What I've told everyone I know who wanted to lose weight for years.

This isn't as big an original innovation as ~S~ is trying to make it seem.
Stop your heretical. Bask in his accomplishments DAMMIT.
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Turdacious wrote:
Stop your heretical. Bask in his accomplishments DAMMIT.
That guy should be a guru.


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I find it surprising that there is so little discussion about Pavel's leaving RKC on the DD-forum. I mean, if I was a rkc-guy it would be quite a big thing. Now, there are just some people thanking Pavel and wish well when he leave...
Maybe, discussions take place at Facebook. I look forward the Dynamite Deadlift book anyhow.
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If you look on the DD Forum Pavel has been banned. Interesting.
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mtman1 wrote:If you look on the DD Forum Pavel has been banned. Interesting.
LOL. Taking pages from the @F playbook, are we JDC?


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mtman1 wrote:If you look on the DD Forum Pavel has been banned. Interesting.
Classy

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mtman1 wrote:If you look on the DD Forum Pavel has been banned. Interesting.

How can you tell ? I'm not doubting you, just curious where that is made public.

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I don't what all the fuss is about. Ain't none of these motherfuckers defy gravity.
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Would you rather learn from Steve or Rif? Plus how many RKCs actually live in their cars and bathe in streams and shit?

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