Repugs Epic Fail in WA.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:04 am

Jesus you're dumb as shit. You do know that the CWA is a multiheaded beast that's been amended many times? No code that I have ever seen, "mandates" any fine. It proscribes a range of possible fines. all of which are appeal-able.

What is at issue initially was that the Sacketts argued that the Corp had no jurisdiction. The mode they chose determined the initial outcome. SCOTUS slapped EPA pretty hard for not allowing judicial review earlier in the process.

Ultimately, if the Sacketts had argued the facts, (is it wetland or not?) they wouldn't be here.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:10 am

Sackett v. United States Environmental Protection Agency, 566 U.S. ___ (2012), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that the Clean Water Act is subject to the Administrative Procedure Act, which requires an appeals process for any ruling by a federal agency. The Court ruled that the availability of immediate judicial review of compliance orders issued by the United States Environmental Protection Agency is required.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sackett_v. ... ion_Agency

This was decided mere months ago. I've said it before-- I'm not a lawyer. Explain it to me what I'm missing.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:17 am

Turdacious wrote:
Sackett v. United States Environmental Protection Agency, 566 U.S. ___ (2012), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that the Clean Water Act is subject to the Administrative Procedure Act, which requires an appeals process for any ruling by a federal agency. The Court ruled that the availability of immediate judicial review of compliance orders issued by the United States Environmental Protection Agency is required.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sackett_v. ... ion_Agency

This was decided mere months ago.

Yes..and despite Wikipedia...you still don't understand it in the least.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:24 am

SCOTUS slapped the EPA down mere months ago-- these bureaucratic processes have been in place for years.

You seem pretty intent on blaming the victim Officer Friendly.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:40 am

Turdacious wrote:SCOTUS slapped the EPA down mere months ago-- these bureaucratic processes have been in place for years.

You seem pretty intent on blaming the victim Officer Friendly.

Having worked in that arena it for some time, I do agree with the EPA's stated position that an enforcement action is not a final agency decision....because it's not. I'm pleased to see that SCOTUS found the rule to be unfair becuase it may violate another act governing procedures, more process makes more leverage for me. But at the end of the day, the Sacketts made a semantic argument. In reality they would have been better off doing their due diligence and working using the procedure in place which is in all relevant ways a better process than an administrative appeal. At the end of the day the "victims" were idiots and will lose their house on the merits of the actual case.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:31 pm

^^ this debate has shed a lot of light on the subject of whether or not the libertarians can keep the republicans off the ballot

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:43 pm

protobuilder wrote:^^ this debate has shed a lot of light on the subject of whether or not the libertarians can keep the republicans off the ballot

And who knew Louis L'Amour was involved

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:29 pm

I am so fucking confused.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:34 pm

Ed Zachary wrote:I am so fucking confused.

You don't know the important difference between Article I and Article III courts? and you didn't know that Congress has the authority to limit the jurisdiction of Article III courts?

haven't you read this thread????

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:47 pm

protobuilder wrote:haven't you read this thread????

No. I mainly check for tits.

johno · Post by **johno** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:06 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:Libertarians Sue to Have Romney Kicked Off Washington Ballot

So, if Libertarians are successful, Romney can't win in Washington? This changes what?

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:30 pm

johno wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Libertarians Sue to Have Romney Kicked Off Washington Ballot
So, if Libertarians are successful, Romney can't win in Washington? This changes what?

The governors race for one is what some prognosticators are saying. Two it would be a big fick you to the two party status quo. But since it wont result iness to hope nirvana, its usel

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:41 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote: But since it wont result iness to hope nirvana, its usel

well said

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:46 pm

protobuilder wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote: But since it wont result iness to hope nirvana, its usel
well said

In six months we'll see a tv commercial with him drooling, saying this is the post he made while driving

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:51 pm

BucketHead wrote:
protobuilder wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote: But since it wont result iness to hope nirvana, its usel
well said
In six months we'll see a tv commercial with him drooling, saying this is the post he made while driving

walking.

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:55 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:
BucketHead wrote:
protobuilder wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote: But since it wont result iness to hope nirvana, its usel
well said
In six months we'll see a tv commercial with him drooling, saying this is the post he made while driving
walking.

How did you get a brain injury walking?

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:02 pm

BucketHead wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:
BucketHead wrote:
protobuilder wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote: But since it wont result iness to hope nirvana, its usel
well said
In six months we'll see a tv commercial with him drooling, saying this is the post he made while driving
walking.
How did you get a brain injury walking?

tripped while your wife was riding my face.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:08 pm

:snigger

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:20 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:
BucketHead wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:
BucketHead wrote:
protobuilder wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote: But since it wont result iness to hope nirvana, its usel
well said
In six months we'll see a tv commercial with him drooling, saying this is the post he made while driving
walking.
How did you get a brain injury walking?
tripped while your wife was riding my face.

Is she ok?

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:25 pm

From what I understand from doctors, it's wasn't legitimate rape so she should be just fine.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:34 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:From what I understand from doctors, it's wasn't legitimate rape so she should be just fine.

=D> =D> =D>

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:40 pm

Maybe I misspoke

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:42 pm

BD seems a little out of sorts-- may have something to do with his blueberry consumption.

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:44 pm

Blueberries are wonderful on Kashi

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:47 pm

I can't even imagine the horror

IGX

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