Blaidd Drwg wrote:Darf and turd's horrible naivte notwithstasnding, there is no doubt in anyone's mind who follows the sport that LA reaped what he sowed, that he doped like everyone else and he is without peer as the greatest tour rider ever. Not the greatest cyclist by a fair margin, that honor belongs to another known doper, Eddie Merckx.
Life is so much easier to understand when you accept that a hero and a heel can be the same guy.
More like there is a difference between 'guilty' and 'proven guilty through proper procedure.'
Yes. Not that I think Lance might have doped but that no one ever proved it at the time of the events.
Therefore he did'nt dope just like there is no God and there is a God. Not proving either way.
"God forbid we tell the savages to go fuck themselves." Batboy
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Darf and turd's horrible naivte notwithstasnding, there is no doubt in anyone's mind who follows the sport that LA reaped what he sowed, that he doped like everyone else and he is without peer as the greatest tour rider ever. Not the greatest cyclist by a fair margin, that honor belongs to another known doper, Eddie Merckx.
Life is so much easier to understand when you accept that a hero and a heel can be the same guy.
More like there is a difference between 'guilty' and 'proven guilty through proper procedure.'
Cash saved is going to be worth it resulting in a ton of cash saved for tax payers. No longer do they need actual tests - rather bureaucrats will walk out on the field and determine who is doping and who is not and that will be that.
WildGorillaMan wrote:Enthusiasm combined with no skill whatsoever can sometimes carry the day.
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Darf and turd's horrible naivte notwithstasnding, there is no doubt in anyone's mind who follows the sport that LA reaped what he sowed, that he doped like everyone else and he is without peer as the greatest tour rider ever. Not the greatest cyclist by a fair margin, that honor belongs to another known doper, Eddie Merckx.
Life is so much easier to understand when you accept that a hero and a heel can be the same guy.
More like there is a difference between 'guilty' and 'proven guilty through proper procedure.'
Yes. Not that I think Lance might have doped but that no one ever proved it at the time of the events.
Therefore he did'nt dope just like there is no God and there is a God. Not proving either way.
He actually was popped twice. The first time the UCI covered it up on a technicality (not dissimilar to suspect not being Mirandized) the second time,they gave him a TUE after the fact.
One of the amusing bits that has snuck out of the Landis/Hamilton testimony is how easy it is to beat an EPO test.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Terry B. wrote:On Thursday, the foundation had 45 people donating through the website. On Friday, hours after the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency said it had enough information to strip Armstrong of his seven Tour de France titles, 411 people felt compelled to donate.
Every sponsor of Armstrong or the Foundation chose to publicly stand by them Friday. Nike, Anheuser-Busch, Oakley, Johnson Health Tech, Sporting KC, FRS, Honey Stinger and American Century Investments all issued statements of support.
Stolen from the other Lance thread.
I called this shit on Facebook yesterday like a gawddamn far seer!
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Darf and turd's horrible naivte notwithstasnding, there is no doubt in anyone's mind who follows the sport that LA reaped what he sowed, that he doped like everyone else and he is without peer as the greatest tour rider ever. Not the greatest cyclist by a fair margin, that honor belongs to another known doper, Eddie Merckx.
Life is so much easier to understand when you accept that a hero and a heel can be the same guy.
More like there is a difference between 'guilty' and 'proven guilty through proper procedure.'
You'll have no argument from me that WADA and USADA should be disbanded...but don't kid yourself this is anything but a Pyrrhic victory. He did it. Of that, there is no reasonable doubt.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Imagine if there was a government agency, or a govt funded non-profit, that watched wall street as closely as they watch baseball and people riding bikes.
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Disengage from the outcome and do work.
The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Imagine if there was a government agency, or a govt funded non-profit, that watched wall street as closely as they watch baseball and people riding bikes.
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"God forbid we tell the savages to go fuck themselves." Batboy
The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Imagine if there was a government agency, or a govt funded non-profit, that watched wall street as closely as they watch baseball and people riding bikes.
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ZING!!!!
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"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Imagine if there was a government agency, or a govt funded non-profit, that watched wall street as closely as they watch baseball and people riding bikes.
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"Start slowly, then ease off". Tortuga Golden Striders Running Club, Pensacola 1984.
"But even snake wrestling beats life in the cube, for me at least. In measured doses."-Lex
I am taking back your advertising award because everybody knows that 95% of the guys in the industry are coke addicts. Proof? I have a few guys lined up who will testify. Names......no, you're not going to get them.
WildGorillaMan wrote:Enthusiasm combined with no skill whatsoever can sometimes carry the day.
Blaidd Drwg wrote: how easy it is to beat an EPO test.
this aspect of the brouhaha might yield some actual news. i expect usada have learned a lot from lance's teammates about how they slipped through the screens. in one article there was a reference to low-dose oral testosterone, with detectable levels gone from the body in 12 hours. true?
Really Big Strong Guy: There are a plethora of psychopaths among us.
The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Imagine if there was a government agency, or a govt funded non-profit, that watched wall street as closely as they watch baseball and people riding bikes.
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Thats worth ten clappies right there!
food is medicine. that's why i'm drinking dr. pepper.
The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Imagine if there was a government agency, or a govt funded non-profit, that watched wall street as closely as they watch baseball and people riding bikes.
There is, but it's like Clemons keeping tabs on Bonds.
The dark side of Armstrong's Faustian pact has come back to haunt him. And will forever more. But he was a kid born with no real opportunity other than exploiting his talents. He took his chances and overall, comes out way, way ahead in this.
What you won't hear about are the kids not so lucky, who naively tried to make it in a dirty sport and came away with nothing but shitty results, shitty money, broken dreams and dangerous shit pumped into them by dumb pseudo doctors. That should weigh on the conscience of everyone associated with the sport over the last 50 years. But of course, the riders blame the teams who blame the governing bodies who blame the doctors who blame the journalists who blame the sponsors who blame the managers who blame the public etc. etc.
LA had more than a few gifts coming into the world not the least of which was freakish athletic abilities that were quite evident long before he ever turned pro. He had opportunities galore. This is not some poor chile duped by a corrupt capitalist system. LA was born a shark.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Blaidd Drwg wrote:LA had more than a few gifts coming into the world not the least of which was freakish athletic abilities that were quite evident long before he ever turned pro. He had opportunities galore. This is not some poor chile duped by a corrupt capitalist system. LA was born a shark.
Blaidd Drwg wrote:LA had more than a few gifts coming into the world not the least of which was freakish athletic abilities that were quite evident long before he ever turned pro. He had opportunities galore. This is not some poor chile duped by a corrupt capitalist system. LA was born a shark.
He was born to a single mother in Plano, Texas. Didn't have any contact with his Dad. His mom got involved with a few bad eggs over the years. He was very hyper as a child and was heading for trouble. He started channelling his energy into sport as a very young kid. Yes, he had freakish abilities, but he could just as easily have spunked all that up a wall, as many with talent end up doing. His success is down to sheer hard work. Yes, he's a shark. But he is 100% self-made. Who else in his position with cancer would have had the courage or drive to succeed like he did? Being a kid putting all your winnings into buying kit being raised by a single mom who was working was hardly "....more than a few gifts".
WTF is wrong with you? It's not enough for Socialist Sally to starts fapping at a banal "overcoming an average childhood" story and now you are tossing G@ne bait around...I am sickened.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Blaidd Drwg wrote:WTF is wrong with you? It's not enough for Socialist Sally to starts fapping at a banal "overcoming an average childhood" story and now you are tossing G@ne bait around...I am sickened.
"Average"?
Did your mommy work 2 jobs and raise you all by herself BD? Is that why you know everything about everything? Because of your tough upbringing?
Blaidd Drwg wrote:LA had more than a few gifts coming into the world not the least of which was freakish athletic abilities that were quite evident long before he ever turned pro. He had opportunities galore. This is not some poor chile duped by a corrupt capitalist system. LA was born a shark.
Where exactly did BD bring up childhood? Am I missing something?
