National Media won't be interested in this story

johno · Post by **johno** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:49 pm

SAN ANTONIO - A woman is in critical condition after she was stabbed outside her child's school Tuesday morning.

The attack happened around 10:00 a.m. Tuesday outside the Bonham Academy on St. Mary's Street. Teresa Barron, 38, had just dropped off her child at the school when the child's father showed up, and the two got into an argument. The child's father, 38-year-old Roberto Barron allegedly then stabbed the woman several times in the upper body and neck area.

Police say a bystander who happened to be a concealed handgun license holder pulled his weapon and ordered Barron to drop the knife. Barron surrendered and was taken into custody by the bystander and a school district officer.

http://www.woai.com/mostpopular/story/A ... EBOTQ.cspx

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:56 pm

Why is this a national story?

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:12 pm

Because it feeds into the national discussion regarding firearms and concealed carry. That's why.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:57 pm

Fat Cat wrote:Because it feeds into the national discussion regarding firearms and concealed carry. That's why.

What national discussion? It's legal in 49 states. I'd like it covered where I live but this seems like a non story everywhere else.

johno · Post by **johno** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:32 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Why is this a national story?

As FatCat said, the national debate continues. When guns are misused, it's often national news. Example: the NY City murder last week got national coverage.

How often does a citizen's proper use of a firearm get that kind of coverage?

Don't tell me the Good Guy stories aren't newsworthy. People love it when victims fight back.

Protobuilder · Post by **Protobuilder** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:07 am

Stabbings aren't interesting. Shootings are interesting.

Isolated incidents involving a domestic dispute aren't going to be reported unless one of them is a public figure.

Stab 15 random people and that is news.

Proper use of a firearm? Is it that rare that it should be reported every time a gun owner doesn't shoot somebody?

johno · Post by **johno** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:17 am

Terry B. wrote: Proper use of a firearm?

It sure was interesting when Zimmerman shot Martin.

Protobuilder · Post by **Protobuilder** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:03 am

johno wrote:
Terry B. wrote: Proper use of a firearm?
It sure was interesting when Zimmerman shot Martin.

If the person in the initial story would have shot the guy, it would be news.

I disagree that the media has an angle or is anti-gun. They are reporting what they think will get ratings. Guns are more interesting than knives which are more interesting than something like pollution because people want the feeling that "OMG! That is so random.......it could happen to me!". People being shot in a movie theatre - beautiful for the media. A terrorist attack - perfect. The HINT of a terrorist attack - good enough. It would be nice if the media would report that 150 people visited the doctor because the air quality is shit or talked about good Samaritan stories but people like conflict, fear and anxiety.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:05 am

The media has a record of actively omitting details where a person saves the day with a personal firearm. There was some story in Denver where a man "subdued" a gunman. In reality, he'd gotten a gun out of his car and held the bad guy at gunpoint.

johno · Post by **johno** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:17 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:The media has a record of actively omitting details where a person saves the day with a personal firearm.

Sweet Baby Jesus! Spells & I agree.

johno · Post by **johno** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:39 am

Terry B. wrote:
I disagree that the media has an angle or is anti-gun. They are reporting what they think will get ratings.

1 - People love stories where the Bad Guy get his ass handed to him.

2 - Every week, some Average Joe/Josephine uses a gun to subdue/kill a Bad Guy. But the national press ignores it.

3 - When some Schizo uses a gun to kill innocents, the national press swarms to cover the story.

4 - 1 + 2 + 3 = You are full of shit. QED

Protobuilder · Post by **Protobuilder** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:51 am

johno wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
I disagree that the media has an angle or is anti-gun. They are reporting what they think will get ratings.
1 - People love stories where the Bad Guy get his ass handed to him.

2 - Every week, some Average Joe/Josephine uses a gun to subdue/kill a Bad Guy. But the national press ignores it.

3 - When some Schizo uses a gun to kill innocents, the national press swarms to cover the story.

4 - 1 + 2 + 3 = You are full of shit. QED

Holy shit! It's a conspiracy. If you aren't simply talking out of your arse and gun nuts are killing people they deem to be "bad guys" on a weekly basis, it should indeed be a national story. Perhaps the "scizo" had decided that everybody he killed were the "bad guys".

Thatcher II · Post by **Thatcher II** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:22 am

Terry clearly doesn't understand how dangerous it is for FREEDOM if everyone can't carry guns. That's why he doesn't see the media conspiracy either. Pathetic.

Terry, what's standing between you and Government abuse of freedoms?

Protobuilder · Post by **Protobuilder** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:33 am

15k miles and foreign residency.

You?

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:17 pm

johno wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:Why is this a national story?
As FatCat said, the national debate continues. When guns are misused, it's often national news. Example: the NY City murder last week got national coverage.

How often does a citizen's proper use of a firearm get that kind of coverage?

Don't tell me the Good Guy stories aren't newsworthy. People love it when victims fight back.

They covered this story:

Deaf 3-year-old Hunter Spanjer of Nebraska signs his first name with a gesture resembling a gun, and his parents say his school wants him to stop.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08 ... d-him?lite

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:10 pm

Am I just an oddball or do others feel there's a distinct difference between the rights issues of concealed handguns and semi-automatic assault rifles.

I don't find this posted story controversial at all

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:15 pm

Terry B. wrote:15k miles and foreign residency.

=D> =D> =D>[/quote]

Gorbachev wrote:
Terry, what's standing between you and Government abuse of freedoms?

PLEASE tell me you're not going to pretend that owning a few firearms has prevented the government from stomping all over our rights.

Pinky · Post by **Pinky** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:56 pm

BucketHead wrote:Am I just an oddball or do others feel there's a distinct difference between the rights issues of concealed handguns and semi-automatic assault rifles.

Of course, there's a difference. Concealed handguns actually exist, but there's no such thing as a "semi-automatic assault rifle".

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:16 pm

Pinky wrote:semi-automatic assault rifle

That's weak sauce. OK, military-style, rapid-fire, large payload weaponry then. Jeez.

The point is, what is Johno's point? Does he feel that the use of a concealed handgun should be a big controversy?

milosz · Post by **milosz** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:25 pm

johno wrote: 2 - Every week, some Average Joe/Josephine uses a gun to subdue/kill a Bad Guy. But the national press ignores it.

There you go - every week, an event happens. Not news. Dog bites man.

Every day, about three dozen Americans die via gun. 99% of those deaths are not covered in the national media.

3 - When some Schizo uses a gun to kill innocents, the national press swarms to cover the story.

Mass killings are rare. That's news, whether via gun, bomb or tomahawk.

Every day a person or persons are are killed by a family member and no one gives a shit - but when Chris Benoit killed his family, that was national news. Did the national media have it in for wrestling? No, he was famous.

Pinky · Post by **Pinky** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:45 pm

BucketHead wrote:
Pinky wrote:semi-automatic assault rifle
That's weak sauce. OK, military-style, rapid-fire, large payload weaponry then. Jeez.

Weak sauce is injecting a mischaracterization of the most popular rifles on the civilian market into a discussion that didn't previously involve them.

As far as I can tell, Johno's point seems to be that the media should be as interested in the "feel good" gun stories as they are the horror stories.

Pinky · Post by **Pinky** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:52 pm

milosz wrote:Mass killings are rare. That's news, whether via gun, bomb or tomahawk.

I think this is right. The job of journalists is to make the exceptional, especially the exceptional and bad, seem common. To a journalist, three cases equals an epidemic, and widespread doom gets better ratings than widespread sunshine.

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:53 pm

Pinky wrote:
BucketHead wrote:
Pinky wrote:semi-automatic assault rifle
That's weak sauce. OK, military-style, rapid-fire, large payload weaponry then. Jeez.
Weak sauce is injecting a mischaracterization of the most popular rifles on the civilian market into a discussion that didn't previously involve them.

As far as I can tell, Johno's point seems to be that the media should be as interested in the "feel good" gun stories as they are the horror stories.

you made my point. I "injected" it, because how many concealed pistol horror stories have you heard in the media?

So maybe it was Johno trying to make equivalent the concealed pistol hero and the loaded-for-bear massacres we hear about?

See how you just called them all "gun stories"?

Thatcher II · Post by **Thatcher II** » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:03 pm

protobuilder wrote:
Terry B. wrote:15k miles and foreign residency.

=D> =D> =D>

Gorbachev wrote:Terry, what's standing between you and Government abuse of freedoms?
PLEASE tell me you're not going to pretend that owning a few firearms has prevented the government from stomping all over our rights.

Your sarcasm detector isn't very good, is it. I live with Terry. I will use smiley faces next time I rip the piss out of God-fearing gun-toting rutin-tutin defenders of rights and libertay.

BTW, the religious zeal in the US is creepy in the extreme and those GOP things Bucket posted were just horrid. Why can't cunting Americans realise there's no God, like everyone else? Fucking dangerous retards.

IGX

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