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Collective good doesn't mean much if you're the one who gets screwed.

Never talk to the cops.

This kid though.... I'm anti-death penalty for the same reasons I don't believe people should speak to the police, but shit. He makes me question my views on these matters.
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There are times when talking to cops - even if you think they're looking incorrectly at something - is the right thing to do.
True. But I have said things to cops innocently that cost me hours of court time to prove no involvement.
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Gorbs...In the most Jeffersonian fashion I can muster...I respect your right to be wrong.

All I know about the UK legal system I learned from the BBC which is to say..I know nothing so I can only speak from the US system. I understand there could be a moral choice between assisting an investigation and covering your ass. Those of us in the US that have had the pleasure of dealing with Officer Friendly (even the law abiding real Merikan types) will nearly universally agree, err on the side of saying less, (far far far less ) than might occur to you. American law enforcement across the board and with very few exceptions is distrustful of the population they are sworn to serve. As rallying cry, it makes far more sense to advocate caution and silence. Get Ye a Solicitor first.
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Gorbachev wrote:There are times when talking to cops - even if you think they're looking incorrectly at something - is the right thing to do.
Of course there is, and that time is "with your lawyer present".
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There are times when talking to cops - even if you think they're looking incorrectly at something - is the right thing to do.
True. But I have said things to cops innocently that cost me hours of court time to prove no involvement.
Let me put it like this.

Say one of my kids goes missing. And someone is questioned. And says nothing. And then becomes a suspect. And the chief suspect. And they choose not to clear up a misunderstanding or clarify something. And it turns out they were standing on their rights while the police could have spent their time looking for the kid and the kidnapper but wasted it trying to eliminate that individual. I honestly think I'd want to smash his fucking head in and would likely try.
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baffled wrote:Collective good doesn't mean much if you're the one who gets screwed.

Never talk to the cops.

This kid though.... I'm anti-death penalty for the same reasons I don't believe people should speak to the police, but shit. He makes me question my views on these matters.

So continue to ponder that while the rest of us drag the little fucker out back and kill him by rear nakid choke.

You throw broken toys away.




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DARTH wrote:
baffled wrote:Collective good doesn't mean much if you're the one who gets screwed.

Never talk to the cops.

This kid though.... I'm anti-death penalty for the same reasons I don't believe people should speak to the police, but shit. He makes me question my views on these matters.

So continue to ponder that while the rest of us drag the little fucker out back and kill him by rear nakid choke.

You throw broken toys away.
Maybe they raped him in the ass for years and he's not ready to talk about it. Maybe he's covering for a different family member. You never have all the facts. Killing him is fucking stupid.
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Gorbachev wrote:
DARTH wrote:
baffled wrote:Collective good doesn't mean much if you're the one who gets screwed.

Never talk to the cops.

This kid though.... I'm anti-death penalty for the same reasons I don't believe people should speak to the police, but shit. He makes me question my views on these matters.

So continue to ponder that while the rest of us drag the little fucker out back and kill him by rear nakid choke.

You throw broken toys away.
Maybe they raped him in the ass for years and he's not ready to talk about it. Maybe he's covering for a different family member. You never have all the facts. Killing him is fucking stupid.

After an investigation and his day in court with representation and if found guilty you and Baff can keep pondering this heavy shit as the rest of us drag the fucker out back. I'm an American, we love dueprocess. :supz:




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DARTH wrote:
Gorbachev wrote:
DARTH wrote:
baffled wrote:Collective good doesn't mean much if you're the one who gets screwed.

Never talk to the cops.

This kid though.... I'm anti-death penalty for the same reasons I don't believe people should speak to the police, but shit. He makes me question my views on these matters.

So continue to ponder that while the rest of us drag the little fucker out back and kill him by rear nakid choke.

You throw broken toys away.
Maybe they raped him in the ass for years and he's not ready to talk about it. Maybe he's covering for a different family member. You never have all the facts. Killing him is fucking stupid.

After an investigation and his day in court with representation and if found guilty you and Baff can keep pondering this heavy shit as the rest of us drag the fucker out back. I'm an American, we love dueprocess. :supz:
This is one of the dumbest things you've ever written on this board.

By the way, the point in the video where the cop starts to talk is at ~27 minutes.
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This is one of the dumbest things you've ever written on this board.
that seems a shade hasty....
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:
baffled wrote:
This is one of the dumbest things you've ever written on this board.
that seems a shade hasty....
Just one of the dumbest things... not the dumbest.
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baffled wrote:
DARTH wrote:
Gorbachev wrote:
DARTH wrote:
baffled wrote:Collective good doesn't mean much if you're the one who gets screwed.

Never talk to the cops.

This kid though.... I'm anti-death penalty for the same reasons I don't believe people should speak to the police, but shit. He makes me question my views on these matters.

So continue to ponder that while the rest of us drag the little fucker out back and kill him by rear nakid choke.

You throw broken toys away.
Maybe they raped him in the ass for years and he's not ready to talk about it. Maybe he's covering for a different family member. You never have all the facts. Killing him is fucking stupid.

After an investigation and his day in court with representation and if found guilty you and Baff can keep pondering this heavy shit as the rest of us drag the fucker out back. I'm an American, we love dueprocess. :supz:
This is one of the dumbest things you've ever written on this board.

By the way, the point in the video where the cop starts to talk is at ~27 minutes.
Your such a cunt.

Untill you take over and get us a better system, thats what you do except the kill the little fucker if he was not ass raped and killed his parents part.

But he's 17 and it's Texas so good chance if he's guilty and there are not mitigating circumstances, he's got a god chance of being executed. All I want to change is the method and time after sentencing it's carried out.




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"I've been haunted by the men I was asked to execute in the name of the state of Florida. This is premeditated, carefully thought out ceremonial killing."
-Ron McAndrew, was a prison warden in Florida
This should make any rational being uncomfortable.

He'll get his punishment. With a lifetime, no matter how limited, of shanks and ass rape.
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it's Texas
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tough old man wrote:
There are times when talking to cops - even if you think they're looking incorrectly at something - is the right thing to do.
True. But I have said things to cops innocently that cost me hours of court time to prove no involvement.

I just paid 2 grand in lawyer's fees because I got soft and forgot to never speak to the police.
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Shapecharge wrote:Gorby, you don't have to be adversarial all the time do you? Blade does have a point. If you are a suspect regardless of your innocence, you may be well served to say nary a word upon arrest. It's been posted here some years back a video from a law school classroom where both a seasoned attorney/law professor and a veteran police officer advises against saying anything if arrested. Accessory and conspiracy charges carry less of a burden of proof and you could find yourself on a legal journey you want no part of for something you never ever saw coming.
I accept very little that I hear without questioning, Shape. You might not be aware of it, but there's a current at IGx on most topics. I refuse to be carried automatically. One such current is that we should never trust cops or talk to them. Another IGx "meme" is that gun carrying and ownership is cool. Another is that porn is fine. Another is that climate change is bullshit. There are exceptions but there are general IGx echo chamber beliefs. I took a lot of shit when I joined and was followed from thread to thread and labelled "Rant". I could piss off but why should I?

Back on topic. There are times when talking to cops - even if you think theyre looking incorrectly at something - is the right thing to do.

The absolutist nature of personal rights trumping collective good yet again impoverishes the American experience. Pissing in your own spring.
If you are unconcerned for yourself or those who rely on you for love, support, and affection, and don't mind that people who control the system punish you while letting the guilty party run free, feel free to talk and help all you possibly can. Richard Jewell is a prime example. While the system focused on him like a laser, the guilty went free. His helpful good citizenship did no one any good at all individually or collectively - except the guilty of coarse.

Also, I was one of the people who accused you of being Rant and I want to apologise (notice the Britannic spelling). You are the quintessential EuroTwat of the highest order and that is infinitely superior to being a Rant. Please accept my olive branch of friendship.
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Shapecharge wrote: So when I was in college this chick just disappears. The local police are on it. Check her bank and within hours her card has been used by this dude. Former scholarship track athlete.
...The girl's family contacts him repeatedly to ask where her body is located and he's never said a word about it.
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You might not be aware of it, but there's a current at IGx on most topics. I refuse to be carried automatically. One such current is that we should never trust cops or talk to them. Another IGx "meme" is that gun carrying and ownership is cool. Another is that porn is fine. Another is that climate change is bullshit. There are exceptions but there are general IGx echo chamber beliefs.
And another is that if you disagree with any of the above, you are a homo. Particularly the guns one; carrying a gun is both decidedly American and exceedingly manly. *IF* instead you carry a knife, not because you think it is 'safer' or you will 'get in less trouble,' but because you actually believe that you are just as lethal with a knife as most dudes are with a gun, then we can look past it.

It all explains the avatar, anyway...
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***Never mind, found the mention of the little fuck's Dad being out of town******

Best thing for all involved is ending this little fuck's life as quickly as possible; Kill him like a rabid dog. However, we are too civilized and refined for that.
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Gorbachev wrote:
Shapecharge wrote:Gorby, you don't have to be adversarial all the time do you? Blade does have a point. If you are a suspect regardless of your innocence, you may be well served to say nary a word upon arrest. It's been posted here some years back a video from a law school classroom where both a seasoned attorney/law professor and a veteran police officer advises against saying anything if arrested. Accessory and conspiracy charges carry less of a burden of proof and you could find yourself on a legal journey you want no part of for something you never ever saw coming.
I accept very little that I hear without questioning, Shape. You might not be aware of it, but there's a current at IGx on most topics. I refuse to be carried automatically. One such current is that we should never trust cops or talk to them. Another IGx "meme" is that gun carrying and ownership is cool. Another is that porn is fine. Another is that climate change is bullshit. There are exceptions but there are general IGx echo chamber beliefs. I took a lot of shit when I joined and was followed from thread to thread and labelled "Rant". I could piss off but why should I?

Back on topic. There are times when talking to cops - even if you think theyre looking incorrectly at something - is the right thing to do.

The absolutist nature of personal rights trumping collective good yet again impoverishes the American experience. Pissing in your own spring.
If you are unconcerned for yourself or those who rely on you for love, support, and affection, and don't mind that people who control the system punish you while letting the guilty party run free, feel free to talk and help all you possibly can. Richard Jewell is a prime example. While the system focused on him like a laser, the guilty went free. His helpful good citizenship did no one any good at all individually or collectively - except the guilty of coarse.

Also, I was one of the people who accused you of being Rant and I want to apologise (notice the Britannic spelling). You are the quintessential EuroTwat of the highest order and that is infinitely superior to being a Rant. Please accept my olive branch of friendship.
Fuck you very much, Donky.

Yet again Americu's fatal obsession with individuality, its visceral distrust of authority (even when it's a collective appointment of police officers from your own communities) results in a fucked up situation. The gulf between police roles and perceived malevolent performance and intent is galactic but tolerated. Why? Why aren't US citizens up in arms? Oh. It's individual v collective. Which explains the attitude to healthcare. And climate change.

From this distance, you're living in a hall of mirrors where the big bad government, police, climate conspiracists, socialists and people who hate your freedoms are played up, exaggerated, feared beyond reason and ultimately used as a prop for some fucked up decisions and world views.
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You might not be aware of it, but there's a current at IGx on most topics. I refuse to be carried automatically. One such current is that we should never trust cops or talk to them. Another IGx "meme" is that gun carrying and ownership is cool. Another is that porn is fine. Another is that climate change is bullshit. There are exceptions but there are general IGx echo chamber beliefs.
And another is that if you disagree with any of the above, you are a homo. Particularly the guns one; carrying a gun is both decidedly American and exceedingly manly. *IF* instead you carry a knife, not because you think it is 'safer' or you will 'get in less trouble,' but because you actually believe that you are just as lethal with a knife as most dudes are with a gun, then we can look past it.

It all explains the avatar, anyway...
How can u b as lethally with a blade as with a gun? Does not compute and sounds gay.
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Gorbachev wrote:How can u b as lethally with a blade as with a gun? Does not compute and sounds gay.
Narratives sometimes die in the face of facts, Gorby.
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Gorbachev wrote: Why aren't US citizens up in arms? Oh. It's individual v collective. Which explains the attitude to climate change.
We don't have Aristocracies in the US, Gorby. So when when a "high priest" of Science pronounces that "the planet has a fever" quite a few of us don't mindlessly say "Yes M'Lord" or "Yes, M'Lady".

Would have thought that your collective experiences at the Sommes, Ypres, Auschwitz and the Gulags would have knocked that stupid shit out of your heads. Seeing what the consequences of having your "betters" think for you can lead to collective disaster. Guess you all over there need to suffer some more before you start to think amongst yourselves rather than letting your betters do it all for you.
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Gene,

Let's agree to disagree on everything.
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Gene wrote:We don't have Aristocracies in the US, Gorby. So when when a "high priest" of Science pronounces that "the planet has a fever" quite a few of us don't mindlessly say "Yes M'Lord" or "Yes, M'Lady".
Absolutely. Here in America, we don't need to believe in "science" and listen to authority figures tell us what is and what isn't and what may be. Here in America, we are able to use our logic and reasoning and deep personal experiences to tell us what the correct course of action may be. Oh, and sometimes Jesus talks to us and tells us the merits of guns and SUVs.
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Terry B. wrote:
Gene wrote:We don't have Aristocracies in the US, Gorby. So when when a "high priest" of Science pronounces that "the planet has a fever" quite a few of us don't mindlessly say "Yes M'Lord" or "Yes, M'Lady".
Absolutely. Here in America, we don't need to believe in "science" and listen to authority figures tell us what is and what isn't and what may be. Here in America, we are able to use our logic and reasoning and deep personal experiences to tell us what the correct course of action may be. Oh, and sometimes Jesus talks to us and tells us the merits of guns and SUVs.
Yeah, you're right, Terry. Al Gore Jr. is the second generation of the Gore Dynasty from Tennessee. When he says that "the Earth has a fever" we ought to listen to him. He got Ds in Divinity School but he of the correct lineage to lead us.

Don't recall where Jesus talked about SUVs. He did talk about selling one's cloak to buy a sword but cautioned against living by the sword too.
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