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Can't you idiots find someone who doesn't operate with a medieval outlook?

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 2264.story

That's wrong - the Bible is fairly clear that if a woman is raped, she should either be killed or forced to marry the rapist.

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

Having one candidate say that God intended for the pregnancy to happen is stupid.

Having the other candidate stand up and say that he knows that God did not intend it is nearly equally asinine.

Why does our national political discourse focus always around stuff that will affect only a few people?

kreator wrote:Why does our national political discourse focus always around stuff that will affect only a few people?

kreator wrote:Why does our national political discourse focus always around stuff that will affect only a few people?

LOL, indeed. We're far past flat broke, in multiple constant wars, the FED is constantly fucking us/fucking up, rights and privacy are being eroded/taken away at a rapid pace, and yet every dipshit wants to focus on gay marriage, abortion, rape, and gossipy bullshit. The reason is that those are the only things the two opposing "teams" actually disagree about: shit that comparatively don't fucking matter. People that still think there is difference between R's and D's on things that matter, and that if their side could just win everything will get better, are like this guy

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI[/youtube]

Terry B. wrote:That's wrong - the Bible is fairly clear that if a woman is raped, she should either be killed or forced to marry the rapist.

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

Overwhelmingly, neither Christians nor Jews interpret that passage according to your poorly informed understanding.

johno wrote:The Economy: Ignore the unemployment rate (8+% - double it to 16% if you include workforce dropouts), gasoline prices approaching $4.00 per gallon, anemic productivity growth, and that 57% of Americans think the economy is headed in the wrong direction.

And ignore national debt at 16 Trillion.

NO!

Instead, watch the bright, shiny object of the news cycle:

Romney's family dog on the roof of the car
Romney's wife rides a fancy & expensive horse
Romney cut a gay kid's hair 45 years ago
Romney, when asked, stated the obvious about the Olympics' security in England
Romney called an apologetic US embassy statement "disgraceful"

More Bright, Shiny Objects to come. Ignore the economy & foreign policy.

Oh, wow. Some nothing Republican said something stupid. There's some important news!!!

After the Debates, where Romney showed that he wasn't Satan's Spawn, Dems will have to focus on even smaller trivialities.

Turdacious wrote:

Terry B. wrote:That's wrong - the Bible is fairly clear that if a woman is raped, she should either be killed or forced to marry the rapist.

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

Overwhelmingly, neither Christians nor Jews interpret that passage according to your poorly informed understanding.

LOL. How does one interpret that paragraph differently?

BucketHead wrote:

Turdacious wrote:

Terry B. wrote:That's wrong - the Bible is fairly clear that if a woman is raped, she should either be killed or forced to marry the rapist.

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

Overwhelmingly, neither Christians nor Jews interpret that passage according to your poorly informed understanding.

LOL. How does one interpret that paragraph differently?

It's correctly viewed as teaching us that we should follow the example of Brother Shapecharge and only rape people in the country.

BucketHead wrote:

Turdacious wrote:

Terry B. wrote:That's wrong - the Bible is fairly clear that if a woman is raped, she should either be killed or forced to marry the rapist.

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

Overwhelmingly, neither Christians nor Jews interpret that passage according to your poorly informed understanding.

LOL. How does one interpret that paragraph differently?

By reading the next line for starters.

Deuteronomy 22:25--But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.

cleaner464 wrote:Can't you idiots find someone who doesn't operate with a medieval outlook?

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la ... 2264.story

Nobody cares when Trump cries for attention.

Turdacious wrote:

BucketHead wrote:

Turdacious wrote:

Terry B. wrote:That's wrong - the Bible is fairly clear that if a woman is raped, she should either be killed or forced to marry the rapist.

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

Overwhelmingly, neither Christians nor Jews interpret that passage according to your poorly informed understanding.

LOL. How does one interpret that paragraph differently?

By reading the next line for starters.

Deuteronomy 22:25--But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.

serious no baiting question.

can you point to a what you think is an appropriate interpretation of these three verses are meant to be interpreted?

the last one is clearly, rape a bitch? get stoned. the preceding seems to be rape a bitch, get stoned... but if she doesn't cry out, she's complicit in the act. can you disabuse us of this notion?

Practical jurisprudence in a time before rape kits.

He's gonna say it was consentual; she's gonna say it was rape-- there needs to be some test for who you believe.

Turdacious wrote:Practical jurisprudence in a time before rape kits.

He's gonna say it was consentual; she's gonna say it was rape-- there needs to be some test for who you believe.

K.

That is not far off how I was reading it. All that bible reading might still pay off.

Herv100 wrote:

kreator wrote:Why does our national political discourse focus always around stuff that will affect only a few people?

LOL, indeed. We're far past flat broke, in multiple constant wars, the FED is constantly fucking us/fucking up, rights and privacy are being eroded/taken away at a rapid pace, and yet every dipshit wants to focus on gay marriage, abortion, rape, and gossipy bullshit. The reason is that those are the only things the two opposing "teams" actually disagree about: shit that comparatively don't fucking matter. People that still think there is difference between R's and D's on things that matter, and that if their side could just win everything will get better, are like this guy

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI[/youtube]

Heh. There is much wisdom in pro rasslin.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWB6hGIA9sw[/youtube]

kreator wrote:Why does our national political discourse focus always around stuff that will affect only a few people?

Women make up a majority of 'Americans.'

BucketHead wrote:

Turdacious wrote:

Terry B. wrote:That's wrong - the Bible is fairly clear that if a woman is raped, she should either be killed or forced to marry the rapist.

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

Overwhelmingly, neither Christians nor Jews interpret that passage according to your poorly informed understanding.

LOL. How does one interpret that paragraph differently?

The Bible speaks in metaphors and analogies, bro. Having "relations" and "stoning to death" obviously don't mean what you think they do.

If a person wants to justify rape, Deuteronomy does it better than an alcoholic with responsibility avoidance disorder could.

milosz wrote:

kreator wrote:Why does our national political discourse focus always around stuff that will affect only a few people?

Women make up a majority of 'Americans.'

Sure, by a small margin they do.
This site suggests 3200 pregnancies a a year (or less, since this is was a 2 year span) resulting from rape in 2004-2005.

By way of comparison:
- There were 1,096 people killed in the US by a natural disaster, or an Act of God, if you will (http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/hazstats/sum11.pdf)
- There were 3,308 unintentional drownings in the US in 2004 (http://www.poseidon-tech.com/us/statistics.html)
- There were 16,272 murders in the US in 2008 (http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/ ... 2s0312.pdf)
- There were 32,885 fatalities by car accidents in 2010 (http://www.statisticbrain.com/car-crash ... tistics-2/)
- There were 668,118 deaths due to heart disease and diabetes in the US in 2011 (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm)
- There were 11,722,755 arrests for narcotics possession in the US, mostly marijuana (http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/dcf/en ... fm#arrests)

You really think that what a couple of nutjobs say - which has a slim to little chance of actually changing anything and affecting Americans - really needs to be at the forefront of our national political discourse?

Reminds me of the time John Hagee said that Hurricane Katrina was caused by a gay pride parade. Distasteful and wrong, yes, but why are we so fixated on these types of things?

The fact that anyone gives what these whackos say more than a "screw you" in passing indicates we don't know where to place our priorities, IMO.

Kreator, don't bother.

It's still real to him, dammit!

Terry B. wrote:If a person wants to justify rape, Deuteronomy does it better than an alcoholic with responsibility avoidance disorder could.

Eh? You don't seem to understand the Judeo-Christian concepts of sin and of an all-seeing God at all.

Turdacious wrote:Practical jurisprudence in a time before rape kits.

Yeah, God ran into a similar problem when he was trying to communicate to us before the invention of TV, radio, satellites, and intarnetz...he was forced to talk to us through burning bushes and shit.

Pregnancy via rape is a subset of abortion rights... which impacts not only women, but the people fucking them.

Except there isn't...

http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/10/ ... 287177.txt

If the Republican anti abortion lobby got their way all that would mean is that it goes back to the states, as it should. That's the reality. So unless anti abortionist take complete control of every state legislature and govenorship in the nation, Sandra Fuck can eliminate unwanted results from the multicutural experiments she does with her twat, providing she lives in about 3/4 of the US.

This issue started with the DNC sicking their Familiars in the media on the Republican primary canidates.

John King from CNN fired the first shot durring a primary debate and the DNC has slowly made this a centerpeice seeing as he has not done anything he said he would other than Pelosicare (cause he backseated on that while his true Masters did their thing.

Gitmo still open
Debt is much higher under him
Lybia- The war of choice, were not suppossed to have those under Obama cause he said so.
Fucker has to go.

Yes on the extreme end of the Republican's you have some jerks that want a woman to carry a rape baby, an area where they will not win nationally. My "You Can't Stop Rock and Roll" rule ensures that, people screw, drink and get rid of unwanted pregnancies.

On the extreme ends of the Dems you have commies, socialist and femmnazi twats. And by in large thats all you have now on the National end of the DNC.

milosz wrote:Pregnancy via rape is a subset of abortion rights... which impacts not only women, but the people fucking them.

Are your abortion rights threatened by some nutjob voicing his opinion?

Unless that nutjob is a Supreme Court Justice, the answer is no.