What hearsay have I provided? He was a brilliant self promoter, but an overrated President.Blaidd Drwg wrote:and...Reagan was a dumb as a sack of rocks but it doesn't mean he couldn't spin a pithy quote now an again.
What's behind your hearsay evidence hard on for TR?
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Chicks with daddy issues can be fun, no doubting that.Blaidd Drwg wrote:Sounds like Alice was a bit of a pistol herself.....
I like her.She was known as a rule-breaker in an era when women were under great pressure to conform. The American public noticed many of her exploits. She smoked cigarettes in public, rode in cars with men, stayed out late partying, kept a pet snake named Emily Spinach (Emily as in her spinster aunt and Spinach for its green color) in the White House, and was seen placing bets with a bookie.
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My daddy left home when I was threeTurdacious wrote:Teddy wasn't doing it to support his family, and he never really treated Alice as well as he did his other kids when he got home.WildGorillaMan wrote:In those days men went where there was work to be done, often leaving family behind and sending money back to them. Canadian hero Sam Steele spent years away from his wife and children while he brought law and order to the Yukon and the West.Turdacious wrote:So he did his daughter a favor by moving 1500 miles away to fulfill his fantasy of becoming a deputy sheriff and a rancher?Blaidd Drwg wrote:Ever cared for an infant? Giving the child over to a female relative is a more humane option.Turdacious wrote:He had a son named Alice? And still not exactly the actions of a paragon of manliness.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Steele
And he didn't leave much to auntie and me
Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze.
Now, I don't blame him cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that he ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me "Alice."
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Hence my comparison to Reagan.Turdacious wrote:He was a brilliant self promoter, but an overrated President.
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Teddy was an interesting person, which is why turd finds it so hard to relate.

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This should be done up in a full on Boy Named Sue style country song and sung by some chick with an old timey gospel voice like Iris Dement.DikTracy6000 wrote:
My daddy left home when I was three
And he didn't leave much to auntie and me
Just this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze.
Now, I don't blame him cause he run and hid
But the meanest thing that he ever did
Was before he left, he went and named me "Alice."
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Reagan's political legacy of accomplishment dwarfs TR's. Taft's political legacy of accomplishment dwarfs TR's too come to think of it. I agree with you that Reagan should not be worshiped.Blaidd Drwg wrote:Hence my comparison to Reagan.Turdacious wrote:He was a brilliant self promoter, but an overrated President.
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=D> =D> =D>Fat Cat wrote:Teddy was an interesting person, which is why turd finds it so hard to relate.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Sounds like Alice was a bit of a pistol herself.....
I like her.She was known as a rule-breaker in an era when women were under great pressure to conform. The American public noticed many of her exploits. She smoked cigarettes in public, rode in cars with men, stayed out late partying, kept a pet snake named Emily Spinach (Emily as in her spinster aunt and Spinach for its green color) in the White House, and was seen placing bets with a bookie.
Theodore Roosevelt wrote: I can be President of the United States, or I can control Alice. I cannot possibly do both.
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any nudes of this Alice chick?
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Well, this didn't go as planned.
syaigh wrote:Hey guys, what do you think about the affect of professional sports on athleticism for the general population?
Turd wrote:Teddy Roosevelt was a deadbeat pig of a father.
Fatcat wrote:No he wasn't
Turd wrote:yes he was
Fatcat wrote:No he wasn't
Turd wrote:yes he was
Fatcat wrote:No he wasn't
Turd wrote:yes he was
Fatcat wrote:No he wasn't
IGX peanut gallery wrote:That was back when the men were men and the sheep were scared. It was cool. Your argument is irrelavant.
BD wrote:Reagan was stupid too
Turd wrote:What does this have to do with anything? I think Reagan was stupid.
BD wrote:That's what I just said.
Turd wrote:No it wasn't.
BD wrote:Yes it was
Turd wrote:No it wasn't, and if it was, I thought of it first.
BD wrote:Anyway, back to Alice
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I see you're into Fitness.
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Precisely this:
I mean derailing a thread can be fun and all, but I am actually interested in the topic.Hey guys, what do you think about the affect of professional sports on athleticism for the general population?
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Or this one (who also lacked a Harvard education).
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The prizefighter and his fellow professional athletes of the same ilk are, together with their patrons in every rank of life, the very worst foes with whom the cause of general athletic development has to contend

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Sadly Teddy never got to see the sheer awesomeness that is the WNBA.

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Another degenerate professional boxer/wrestler...
Clearly a pathetic man, who nobody should ever be inspired by...Jack Dempsey, born John Edward Kelly, was an extremely popular fighter in America during the 1880s. Only the great John L. Sullivan, heavyweight champion, was more famous.
Jack began his athletic career as a collar-and-elbow wrestler along with his brother, Martin. Soon, he gave it up and switched to boxing exclusively. Most of his contests were fought with bare-knuckles or skin-tight gloves under London Prize Ring rules.
He was one of the "Three Jacks" trio of prominent fighters at the time along with Jack McAuliffe and Jack Skelly. Dempsey was by far the most famous of the three with McAuliffe second.
Jack started fighting as a lightweight and eventually won the Middleweight Championship of the World even though he never weighed more than a welterweight during his entire career.
http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/box1-99.htm#dempseyFitz dominated Jack, whose health had deteriorated from tuberculosis for the past two or three years. He was well past his peak. Bob knocked the Nonpareil down numerous times. Bob pleaded for Dempsey to stay down but Jack yelled out that Fitz would have to knock him out. Reports vary but Bob floored Dempsey anywhere from nine to fourteen times because Jack was so game and would not quit.
Marshall Stillman (1920, p. 36) wrote about the Dempsey-Fitzsimmons fight "… Fitzsimmons was more than a match for his man … Dempsey took a terrible beating, and Fitzsimmons begged the referee to stop the fight, not wanting to punish (any further) such a game man as Dempsey proved himself to be. But, Dempsey refused to quit …".
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There is no way I'm reading all that shit.
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syaigh, you might want to start another thread of the same topic.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:and...Reagan was a dumb as a sack of rocks but it doesn't mean he couldn't spin a pithy quote now an again.
What's behind your hearsay evidence hard on for TR?
edit: Kudos for the excellent Wikis on Alice though. Should be a movie about her...the slut.
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fkr...
now i just want to go take drogas.

now i just want to go take drogas.

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syaigh wrote:Precisely this:
I mean derailing a thread can be fun and all, but I am actually interested in the topic.Hey guys, what do you think about the affect of professional sports on athleticism for the general population?
Overall it (at least passivly) encourges better fitness toward an activity goal and not so much vanity. Kids look up to their favorite football, basketball, baseball and soccer players and perticipate these sports themselves. This activity used to be one of the 2 main ways people got a workout, physical work being the other.
Even though I am on the side of the fence of if a school needs to choose between having a music and art program or a sports program then art and music should win, I still think athletics are important. Just as evedenced by all the non school sports leagues for kids, there are plenty of opertunities for kids to play sports.
This can lay a base for further intrest in fitness as they get older and realise the NBA/NFL/MLB is not in their future.
Right now both of my boy's do a once a week Fencing class through their school's after school program. My oldest also does Jujutsu. Once a week with one of our student's kid and they both work in with us old farts on Saturdays.
The older boy is very interested in Soccer, plays it every day at recess and I will probably get the soccer coach I used to work with to show him some drills and if the boy takes some time to regularly practice them I will get him in a league.
The youngest is interested in football. Not my favorite but if he shows some commitment then so be it, I will support him.
It's all better than all the damn video games kids play these days. When I was a kid a war movie made me want to go outside in the woods and run around all day and dig foxholes and carry a ruck, now it makes kids want to play Call of Duty.
I had a client who is a Philosophy Phd who has written on the philosophy of sports and their effect on society. I have some of his writtings around here and I'll try to get them to you.
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syaigh wrote:Well, this didn't go as planned.
syaigh wrote:Hey guys, what do you think about the affect of professional sports on athleticism for the general population?Turd wrote:Teddy Roosevelt was a deadbeat pig of a father.Fatcat wrote:No he wasn'tTurd wrote:yes he wasFatcat wrote:No he wasn'tTurd wrote:yes he wasFatcat wrote:No he wasn'tTurd wrote:yes he wasFatcat wrote:No he wasn'tIGX peanut gallery wrote:That was back when the men were men and the sheep were scared. It was cool. Your argument is irrelavant.BD wrote:Reagan was stupid tooTurd wrote:What does this have to do with anything? I think Reagan was stupid.BD wrote:That's what I just said.Turd wrote:No it wasn't.BD wrote:Yes it wasTurd wrote:No it wasn't, and if it was, I thought of it first.BD wrote:Anyway, back to AliceProto wrote:Alice porn? Please say there is Alice porn.

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Athleticism for the general population is in a sad state, but I'm not sure professional sports is the cause.syaigh wrote:Precisely this:
I mean derailing a thread can be fun and all, but I am actually interested in the topic.Hey guys, what do you think about the affect of professional sports on athleticism for the general population?
Yes, it would be nice if every fat guy in his favorite teams jersey got off his lard ass a few times a week and played. But why doesn't he?
It might be three hours a day commuting to work. It might be a job that has him sitting on his lard ass all day. Putting his kids and their activities first. Feel free to substitute "hers" for "his".
Sometimes I think it's a miracle any of us find time to do anything athletic.
I remember watching my dad run to the water, dive in and swim the butterfly when I was little. I'm not sure when he stopped, probably by the time he was 32 or 33. It was definitely when I most wanted to be like him, but I ended up swearing I would never give up like that.
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Disengage from the outcome and do work.
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