The Dark Side of Thomas Jefferson

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milosz wrote:I'm amused by people who believe that the Constitution has power in itself, that 'it' has protected us.
"People" think that? ...the Constitution is going to hop out of its display case & papercut a bitch?
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milosz wrote:
Batboy2/75 wrote:The Constitution is an anti slavery document you fucking dolt.
Sure it is, from December 1865 onward. The previous 76 years, not so much.

How did the Constitution protect Japanese Americans from 1942 to 1945-6? As always, words and paper don't mean shit. Rights exist only so long as enough people haven't amassed enough power to decide that those rights no longer exist.
President Roosevelt's bullied and beleaguered Supreme Court, the same Court which gave us Miller vs US (denied certiori on the NFA of 1934 on a dead defendant) and Wickard vs Filburn (expanded the Interstate Commerce Clause beyond belief).
In a 6-3 decision, the Court sided with the government,[2] ruling that the exclusion order was constitutional. The opinion, written by Supreme Court justice Hugo Black, held that the need to protect against espionage outweighed Fred Korematsu's individual rights, and the rights of Americans of Japanese descent. (The Court limited its decision to the validity of the exclusion orders, adding, "The provisions of other orders requiring persons of Japanese ancestry to report to assembly centers and providing for the detention of such persons in assembly and relocation centers were separate, and their validity is not in issue in this proceeding.") During the case, Solicitor General Charles Fahy is alleged to have suppressed evidence by keeping from the Court a report from the Office of Naval Intelligence indicating that "there was no evidence Japanese Americans were disloyal, were acting as spies or were signaling enemy submarines."[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v._United_States

Earl Warren while he was California AG was one of the motivating forces for the Internment policy. He served as Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.
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Ha, that old "But what about his brother" troll was only proposed in 1998, after Carr had been disproved as Eston Hemings' father. There is literally no other historical evidence for any other Jefferson Male, while a wealth exists for Thomas (and exists beyond gossip and scandal sheets of the time). Additionally, the only reason we have no proof he fathered any other Hemings' child is because descendants have either refused to participate in testing or are unknown.

Jefferson's banging and treatment of slaves doesn't change the quality nor validity of his thoughts. It only makes him human. It is peculiar how some people have so little faith in America that they fear any exposure of its underbelly or revealing of faults in its finest minds will somehow bring the country crashing down around their ears.

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