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protobuilder wrote:

tough old man wrote:My kids backpacks have soft plates in them now. Got them from a cop buddy and built and insert for them.

It's your kid and everything, to each his own yada yada yada

But this strikes me as crazy. What are the pro's and con's of kids wearing bullet-resistant backpacks??

Pinky wrote:

protobuilder wrote:

tough old man wrote:My kids backpacks have soft plates in them now. Got them from a cop buddy and built and insert for them.

It's your kid and everything, to each his own yada yada yada

But this strikes me as crazy. What are the pro's and con's of kids wearing bullet-resistant backpacks??

Don't worry. There are already calls to ban the sale of body armor to civilians.

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/ ... n-control/

The best explanation for arming voluntary teachers I've seen so far

However any honest cop will tell you that when seconds count they are only minutes away. After Colombine law enforcement changed their methods in dealing with active shooters. It used to be that you took up a perimeter and waited for overwhelming force before going in. Now usually as soon as you have two officers on scene you go in to confront the shooter (often one in rural areas or if help is going to take another minute, because there are a lot of very sound tactical reasons for using two, mostly because your success/survival rates jump dramatically when you put two guys through a door at once. The shooter’s brain takes a moment to decide between targets). The reason they go fast is because they know that every second counts. The longer the shooter has to operate, the more innocents die.

Then they’ll say that this is impossible, and give me all sorts of terrible worst case scenarios about all of the horrors that will happen with a gun in the classroom… No problem, because this has happened before. In fact, my state laws allow for somebody with a concealed weapons permit to carry a gun in a school right now. Yes. Utah has armed teachers. We have for several years now.

There were four mass killing attempts this week. Only one made the news because it helped the agreed upon media narrative.

Oregon. NOT a gun free zone. Shooter confronted by permit holder. Shooter commits suicide. Only a few casualties.
Texas. NOT a gun free zone. Shooter killed immediately by off duty cop. Only a few casualties.
Connecticut. GUN FREE ZONE. Shooters kills until the police arrive. Suicide. 26 dead.
China. GUN FREE COUNTRY. A guy with a KNIFE stabs 22 children.

And here is the nail in the coffin for Gun Free Zones. Over the last fifty years, with only one single exception (Gabby Giffords), every single mass shooting event with more than four casualties has taken place in a place where guns were supposedly not allowed.

tough old man wrote:My kids backpacks have soft plates in them now. Got them from a cop buddy and built and insert for them.

BucketHead wrote:Sounds like you retards should teach your children statistics instead

BucketHead wrote:Sounds like you retards should teach your children statistics instead

Homicides in Chicago have reached a new high this year, even as recent data show that surging gun violence in the Windy City has slowed from its devastating midsummer heights.

With still three months of the year ahead, Chicago has seen 400 murders so far in 2012 as of Friday, marking a 25 percent increase over last year's numbers, WGN reports.

Tio Hardiman of Cure Violence (formerly Ceasefire) Illinois told the station that he expects the city may hit 500 homicides this year, a mark it has not reached in several years.

Turdacious wrote:

http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/ar ... in-chicago

Homicides in Chicago have reached a new high this year, even as recent data show that surging gun violence in the Windy City has slowed from its devastating midsummer heights.

With still three months of the year ahead, Chicago has seen 400 murders so far in 2012 as of Friday, marking a 25 percent increase over last year's numbers, WGN reports.

Tio Hardiman of Cure Violence (formerly Ceasefire) Illinois told the station that he expects the city may hit 500 homicides this year, a mark it has not reached in several years.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/0 ... 29015.html

You wanted statistics?

The city of Chicago has been screaming about its violent streets this summer, and rightly so. Public outrage over murder is a healthy sign that a city has not become numb to violence. Through July 19, this year's murder rate is up 31% from last year, with 289 Chicagoans killed, and shootings are up 6%

Add to this that in Illinois's Cook County, being arrested for a serious crime—even with a gun—often doesn't mean going to prison. In an April study, the Police Executive Research Forum found a simple truth when it examined violent crime in six cities (Chicago was not one): Where criminals caught in a violent crime with a gun can expect to serve significant time in state prison (as in San Diego), rates of gun violence are lower. Cities where many gun arrests do not result in any prison time, including Philadelphia and Chicago, have higher rates of violence. This is a no-brainer.

Turdacious wrote:Chicago gun laws are among the most restrictive in the country, yet has one of the highest murder rates for a city it's size. Not that his former Chief of Staff will ever publicly acknowledge that.

DARTH wrote: But more people are murderd with the baseball bat!

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Turdacious wrote:Chicago gun laws are among the most restrictive in the country, yet has one of the highest murder rates for a city it's size. Not that his former Chief of Staff will ever publicly acknowledge that.

And yet, if you aren't poor and/or black, you are perfectly safe even there (and everyone is very aware of the murder rates, including Rahm). And the lack of CCW does not appear to impact that at all.

I don't like this; I'd prefer to be able to legally carry. But it's pretty apparent that fears of violence that require firearms to defend oneself against are, if you're a white male who isn't poor, aren't rational.

Bobby wrote:Always had a hard time understanding why people attack ambulance and fire fighters.They even save the life of scum,so why attack the people who might save you?