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High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:NFL and juice? What a joke and of course just about all juice hard.

Actually, he said that pain killer addiction (what he was dealing with) and amphetamines were what were causing most of the problems.

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:

Terry B. wrote: I have a friend who played in the NFL a few years, mostly on special teams and he said that the percent of players who weren't hooked/using/abusing something or the other was around 0.

NFL and juice? What a joke and of course just about all juice hard. Those fucking guys are all monsters by season two if they make it that far. Nevermind the massive O and D lines, look at today's typical D-back or WR even, they are all more diesel than any linebacker from the 1980's. Then, look at retired LB Dahanni Jones who is doing TV for travel channel these days and see how much homie has shrunk and come back to earth.

We just need to get over ourselves and let people use PED's and weed without penalty.

This, until they come out with the Super soldier injection.

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:We just need to get over ourselves and let people use PED's and weed without penalty.

Dhani Jones is good example an even better one is Ray Lewis this year...20 pounds down and it's completely obvious he made a calculation to switch up the cocktail and the bill came due last week.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:We just need to get over ourselves and let people use PED's and weed without penalty.

Dhani Jones is good example an even better one is Ray Lewis this year...20 pounds down and it's completely obvious he made a calculation to switch up the cocktail and the bill came due last week.

I would have sworn Lewis said he was done 40 pounds and he attributed it to all of the cycling he did. But yes, of course his course correction was chemical in nature. That bill coming due is of course another obvious sign of the times but I don't know that the NFL loving public will ever come to see that all of these season ending tendon and ligament tears that are now so common are a by-product of chemicals, at least some of the time and more so than the turf changes, IMO.

Anyone got a sleeping pill they can toss my way?

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:We just need to get over ourselves and let people use PED's and weed without penalty.

Dhani Jones is good example an even better one is Ray Lewis this year...20 pounds down and it's completely obvious he made a calculation to switch up the cocktail and the bill came due last week.

I would have sworn Lewis said he was done 40 pounds and he attributed it to all of the cycling he did. But yes, of course his course correction was chemical in nature. That bill coming due is of course another obvious sign of the times but I don't know that the NFL loving public will ever come to see that all of these season ending tendon and ligament tears that are now so common are a by-product of chemicals, at least some of the time and more so than the turf changes, IMO.

Anyone got a sleeping pill they can toss my way?

You're probably correct, 40 is too big a number for my brain to allow.

What kind of sleeping pills?

Greg Lemond should get a free swing at Armstrong's head with a baseball bat. Even though he's a bitter old bastard, he's a bitter old bastard who's been proven right. Armstrong went to huge lengths to ruin his life after Lemond said that either Armstrong was the greatest sports story of all time or the biggest fraud of all time. Time for some retribution.

Alfred_E._Neuman wrote: Lemond said that either Armstrong was the greatest sports story of all time or the biggest fraud of all time.

Why can't it be both?

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

Alfred_E._Neuman wrote: Lemond said that either Armstrong was the greatest sports story of all time or the biggest fraud of all time.

Why can't it be both?

Oh, it can be both. Coming back from your death bed to win one of the toughest sporting events in the world 7 straight times is an amazing story. And the fact that he took the same drugs to do it that every other rider in the peloton was taking is a moot point, other than being an indictment of the organization behind the sport and the culture of the sport itself.

But LeMond should still get his crack at Armstrong's skull.

Poor Turd.

Herv100 wrote:Poor Turd.

Eh? I never said Lance was innocent, just that he was being fucked over by a perverted process and an asshole who will likely become even more unsufferable.

Eh? I never said Lance was innocent, just that he was being fucked over by a perverted process and an asshole who will likely become even more unsufferable.

LA is getting railroaded. He's getting fucked because he's the best -ever- and they hate him.
If everyone was drugged who would win? Lance
If everyone was clean who would win ? Lance

tough old man wrote:

Eh? I never said Lance was innocent, just that he was being fucked over by a perverted process and an asshole who will likely become even more unsufferable.

LA is getting railroaded. He's getting fucked because he's the best -ever- and they hate him.
If everyone was drugged who would win? Lance
If everyone was clean who would win ? Lance

Hmmmm...If it's a contest of pure talent, I actually think Jan may have won a couple of them....but I basically am warm to the the sentiment. Under the actual ROE, Lance and his team were the best.

I must be a bad person..I still hate Greg LeMond for being such a sanctimonious twat.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:I must be a bad person..I still hate Greg LeMond for being such a sanctimonious twat.

Takes one to know one?

This article from Yahoo wasn't too bad.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/questions- ... 849439.htm