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http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/ ... 5#50208495

This goes with what I have said, our Commie-n-Chief Obamapatine (Darth Soetorro) telgraphs his moves. He said he wanted to reinstate the ABW durring the 2nd debate and he used this Sandy Hook shit before the weapon involved was confirmed.

This is the ONLY mainstream media report I have seen about this, they are still crying out against "Assult Rifles" on MSCCCP.

The cunts in the media have been told countless times what makes a weapon qualify to be called and assult rifle yet they kee screaming the name, proven what a bunch of Goebbel's influenced cocksuckers and DNC and worse hacks they really are.

Journalism is pretty near dead.

This ain't about safety, it's about control.

You want to do something to curb gun violence based on statistical data? Ban blacks from having guns because 51% of our convicted murderers come from a 13% population pool and the appx. 80 people killed each day with a firearm, about 70 to 78 are convicted criminals killed by cops, citizens and other crimminals, 51% being black.

Even with that truth that would be an evil and unconstitutional law and I for one would fight against it.

Fucking shit!

I'd look at the video page again Darth; It's dated 12/15.

I posted the same video in the banning guns thread. Some of he comments on the video didn't add up and while researching things saw he date.

I'd wait for the official report. What was originally reported as an AR15 in the trunk of he car, may have been a converted Siaga 12 shotgun. Again, all heresay and rumors.

In the end, makes no difference, the sick fuck had enough time to kill as many kids as he liked. The tool was hardly the issue. The Virgina tech killer used two pistols (10 and 15 rounds) and a backpack full of mags.

I have the same gun the Va. Tech dink had. Here we call the Glock 19 a "Hookie Hunter".

Shit Bat's, we might never get the truth.

And no, to those of us who believe reality is reality not percerption is reality the weapon does not matter.

In a room with a baseball bat, either of us could have caused alot of carnage if we were sick fucking failed abortions like Lanza.

And people wonder why I won't let my kid's play 1st person shooter games?

DARTH wrote:And people wonder why I won't let my kid's play 1st person shooter games?

Video games and that rock music will mess kids up! They should be outside, shooting shit, like Jesus and our founding fathers intended.

Terry B. wrote:

DARTH wrote:And people wonder why I won't let my kid's play 1st person shooter games?

Video games and that rock music will mess kids up! They should be outside, shooting shit, like Jesus and our founding fathers intended.

Jesus was a fucking hippie dumbshit who let some jews talk the Romans into nailing his ass to some firewood, we worship Odin around here.

Video games where you kill people builds stimulus/response that has been shown to develope the willingness to engage and drop a target to the point that the military uses them. There are some decent studies that show this.

Not that it means they will go out and kill people but it ups the willingness to do so if in an engagement so if your a unbalnced little bastard sick of the world and you think the best thing to do is make people pay, you are more likely to do the deed and do it better than if you were not into those games.

One of the school shooters in the 90's was a kid who never fired a gun in his life but played Doom for countless hours. Now Doom is not what made him a nut but when he stole Daddy's gun and hit the school, he did several things that usually only highly trained people do with weapon and movemnt in engagement.

He shot 6 people and killed 5 I think the number was. I know it was one more wounded than killed and all the dead people were headshots. He had the fire dicsipline to stop fireing rounds into a target when it deanimated. Even "trained" people have a tendency to pump multiple rounds out. He also moved around corners in the same way the TF's namesake taught me to do so where you see them before they see you, something Bat's, TOM, Johno and a few other vets here know.

To further convence me that I don't want my kid's playing the damn things yet is a personal exp.

After sitting at Crom's all day playing Grand Theft Auto, ramming peple's cars, dragging them out and blowing their brain's out I got in my truck and started down the road in RL. A car was coming in my way and I actually started to steer towards them before catching myself. I had no malice, or anything against these peopel it was just the fact that I was doing that all day on a video game.

Shooting 2D paper bullseye targets and animals is not the same as 3d humanoid target or virtual people, even video people as the old and newer studies the DOD has done on soldiers and their background and the willingness to knowingly draw down on someone and kill them show.

I have enough firearms that I keep in rediness to actually make a difference in case of trouble and am training the oldest in serious martial arts that I don't want to gear them up with stimulus/response building murder simulator video games at their ages.

Hey, they are my little Sith spawn. You would think some of you would be releived that Darth is not so hip to let them look at killing as a solution to problems or as the last act of release alot of these little cunts who kill other kids do.

Flying, driving, Superhero and martial arts video games are plenty fun anyway. Mortal Combat DC Hero's is the big hit here right now. What are they going to do? Karate spree the school?

Terry B. wrote:Video games and that rock music will mess kids up! They should be outside, shooting shit, like Jesus and our founding fathers intended.

You don't think desensitization happens to impressionable brains? It's different than you or I playing games or listening to Cannible Corpse. I think.

The Norwegian fuck, Breivak, said he intentionally desensitized himself and trained using first-person shooters:

Beside visiting firing ranges and countries with relaxed gun laws to sharpen his skill, Breivik's manifesto says that he made use of the video game Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 as a training aid while using World of Warcraft as a cover for his extended period of isolation.[52] He also said that he honed his shooting skills using an in-game holographic sight similar to the one he used during the attacks.[53]

DARTH wrote:

Terry B. wrote:

DARTH wrote:And people wonder why I won't let my kid's play 1st person shooter games?

One of the school shooters in the 90's was a kid who never fired a gun in his life but played Doom for countless hours. Now Doom is not what made him a nut but when he stole Daddy's gun and hit the school, he did several things that usually only highly trained people do with weapon and movemnt in engagement.

He shot 6 people and killed 5 I think the number was. I know it was one more wounded than killed and all the dead people were headshots. He had the fire dicsipline to stop fireing rounds into a target when it deanimated. Even "trained" people have a tendency to pump multiple rounds out. He also moved around corners in the same way the TF's namesake taught me to do so where you see them before they see you, something Bat's, TOM, Johno and a few other vets here know.

Darth, would you mind describing what this means? How did he move around corners? How does the method allow you to "see them before they see you"?

ImUndaYourBed wrote:

DARTH wrote:

Terry B. wrote:

DARTH wrote:And people wonder why I won't let my kid's play 1st person shooter games?

One of the school shooters in the 90's was a kid who never fired a gun in his life but played Doom for countless hours. Now Doom is not what made him a nut but when he stole Daddy's gun and hit the school, he did several things that usually only highly trained people do with weapon and movemnt in engagement.

He shot 6 people and killed 5 I think the number was. I know it was one more wounded than killed and all the dead people were headshots. He had the fire dicsipline to stop fireing rounds into a target when it deanimated. Even "trained" people have a tendency to pump multiple rounds out. He also moved around corners in the same way the TF's namesake taught me to do so where you see them before they see you, something Bat's, TOM, Johno and a few other vets here know.

Darth, would you mind describing what this means? How did he move around corners? How does the method allow you to "see them before they see you"?

You use a mirror attached to a stick on the end of your AR15!

The Sandy Hook parents will be so relieved.

Sure this will make no difference to them either.

1) Columbine School shootings - April 20, 1999 - thirteen premeditated
murders by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebolt, too young to vote but both from
families who were progressive liberals and registered Democrats.

2) VA Tech shootings- April 16, 2004 - thirty-two premeditated murders by
Cho Seung-Hui, a registered Democrat who had written hate mail to President
George W. Bush.

3) Fort Hood shootings - November 5, 2009 - thirteen premeditated murders by
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim and a registered Democrat.

4) Aurora, CO. Century Theater shootings - July 20, 2012 - twelve
premeditated murders by James Holmes, a registered Democrat, Occupy Wall
Street participant, and a progressive liberal who had been a staff worker on
the Obama election campaign.

5) Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings - December 14, 2012 - twenty-seven
premeditated murders by Adam Lanza, a registered Democrat whose facebook
rants showed he despised Christians.

95 murders (mostly women and children) and ALL of these shooters were
progressive liberal Democrats - - none were NRA members - - none were
members of a Tea Party - - none were conservative Republicans.

powerlifter54 wrote:Sure this will make no difference to them either.

1) Columbine School shootings - April 20, 1999 - thirteen premeditated
murders by Eric Harris and Dylan Klebolt, too young to vote but both from
families who were progressive liberals and registered Democrats.

2) VA Tech shootings- April 16, 2004 - thirty-two premeditated murders by
Cho Seung-Hui, a registered Democrat who had written hate mail to President
George W. Bush.

3) Fort Hood shootings - November 5, 2009 - thirteen premeditated murders by
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, a Muslim and a registered Democrat.

4) Aurora, CO. Century Theater shootings - July 20, 2012 - twelve
premeditated murders by James Holmes, a registered Democrat, Occupy Wall
Street participant, and a progressive liberal who had been a staff worker on
the Obama election campaign.

5) Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings - December 14, 2012 - twenty-seven
premeditated murders by Adam Lanza, a registered Democrat whose facebook
rants showed he despised Christians.

95 murders (mostly women and children) and ALL of these shooters were
progressive liberal Democrats - - none were NRA members - - none were
members of a Tea Party - - none were conservative Republicans.

Why are you cherry picking political affiliation of murderers? They're on both sides. E.g., Tim McVeigh, registered Republican, NRA member, killed more people than every name on your list combined.

What on earth, PL54? I respect the hell out of you, but are you seriously linking mass murderers and democratic politics (and in the second degree at that, with the Columbine kids)?! Nuts come from all stripes, and political party affiliation is one factor the significance of which is unclear in the first place.

Even if we assume the link makes some sense, the obvious rebuttal is, all the millions and millions of folks on the roles of the party that DON'T engage in mass murder. And the kooks on the left could just as easily trot out the right-wing extremists/fundamentalists who've engaged in mass murder, etc.

I'm not PL54, but what I take from his post is: Its interesting that progressives, or whatever the fuck you want to call them, are always quick to blame NRA, 'gun nuts', republicans, tea party types, etc for gun violence in America, but in 5 of the most bloody, tragic mass shootings in recent history the trigger man has been a lib. Are these progressives saying that conservatives should reel back their support of guns to save libs from their own dumb ass psychotic selves?

The details are not important. All that matters is that we rashly strip people of their liberties and demonize anyone who disagrees with us. We need to declare a "War on Violence" ASAP so that we can justify a never-ending (and hopefully expensive) campaign to shackle ourselves, as we have with the wars on drugs and terror.

Pinky wrote:The details are not important. All that matters is that we rashly strip people of their liberties and demonize anyone who disagrees with us. We need to declare a "War on Violence" ASAP so that we can justify a never-ending (and hopefully expensive) campaign to shackle ourselves, as we have with the wars on drugs and terror.

Why do you think you're going from the usual economist-logic thing to constant straw man bullshit?

Herv100 wrote:I'm not PL54, but what I take from his post is: Its interesting that progressives, or whatever the fuck you want to call them, are always quick to blame NRA, 'gun nuts', republicans, tea party types, etc for gun violence in America, but in 5 of the most bloody, tragic mass shootings in recent history the trigger man has been a lib.

Good grief. You must also enjoy those random Facebook posts that purport to be clever political arguments but are really just partisan circle-jerks for the uninformed.

Looking at what PL54 cut & pasted, the only facts supporting any one being politically active are in regards to the Aurora guy.

1) The Columbine morons were too young to vote. Their mom & dad's political registration tells us nothing. Did mom & dad vote? Were they active participants in the Democratic party? If so, were they fervent leftists or left-of-center old-school Democrats? Did the Columbine kids share their mom and dad's political beliefs? Assuming that would be ignorant.

2) The chink was a registered voter, as is probably most other VA Tech students. This tells us nothing. And he was psychotic and wrote hate mail to POTUS. What did the letter(s) say? He could have been ranting and raving as psycopaths do. Jack's quote tells us nothing.

3) "registered democrat" ... well then that settles it!

4) see above

5) "registered democrat" ... see above. And he hated Christians, as does every registered Democrat?

God it's scary that people actually pass this stuff around on email and Facebook and nod their heads as they read it.

Oh, and I'm a registered Republican, by the way.

protobuilder wrote:

Herv100 wrote:I'm not PL54, but what I take from his post is: Its interesting that progressives, or whatever the fuck you want to call them, are always quick to blame NRA, 'gun nuts', republicans, tea party types, etc for gun violence in America, but in 5 of the most bloody, tragic mass shootings in recent history the trigger man has been a lib.

Good grief. You must also enjoy those random Facebook posts that purport to be clever political arguments but are really just partisan circle-jerks for the uninformed.

Looking at what PL54 cut & pasted, the only facts supporting any one being politically active are in regards to the Aurora guy.

1) The Columbine morons were too young to vote. Their mom & dad's political registration tells us nothing. Did mom & dad vote? Were they active participants in the Democratic party? If so, were they fervent leftists or left-of-center old-school Democrats? Did the Columbine kids share their mom and dad's political beliefs? Assuming that would be ignorant.

2) The chink was a registered voter, as is probably most other VA Tech students. This tells us nothing. And he was psychotic and wrote hate mail to POTUS. What did the letter(s) say? He could have been ranting and raving as psycopaths do. Jack's quote tells us nothing.

3) "registered democrat" ... well then that settles it!

4) see above

5) "registered democrat" ... see above. And he hated Christians, as does every registered Democrat?

God it's scary that people actually pass this stuff around on email and Facebook and nod their heads as they read it.

Oh, and I'm a registered Republican, by the way.

Way to write a bunch of retarded shit that says nothing. I found it interesting that all 6 shooters were Democrats or children of Democrats, considering the Democratic Party is the group trying to spearhead new gun control. Irony, how does it work?

Herv100 wrote:Irony, how does it work?

I don't know, I guess people anachronistically link facts with preconceived bias?

protobuilder wrote:

Herv100 wrote:Irony, how does it work?

I don't know, I guess people anachronistically link facts with preconceived bias?

Or they just laugh at ironic situations, and then take potshots at douchebags.

Herv100 wrote:

protobuilder wrote:

Herv100 wrote:Irony, how does it work?

I don't know, I guess people anachronistically link facts with preconceived bias?

Or they just laugh at ironic situations, and then take potshots at douchebags.

I wouldn't call you a douchebag, Herv. I don't even know you.

FETISH
1
a : an object (as a small stone carving of an animal) believed to have magical power to protect or aid its owner; broadly : a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence
b : an object of irrational reverence or obsessive devotion : prepossession
c : an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression
2
: a rite or cult of fetish worshipers (See NRA)
3
: fixation

fet·ish·ism also fet·ich·ism (ft-shzm, ft-)
n.
1. Worship of or belief in magical fetishes.
2. Excessive attachment or regard.
3. The displacement of sexual arousal or gratification to a fetish.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/na ... cveigh.htm

i am all for digging deep into what makes a nutjob go berserk and there was certainly lots of that when McVeigh went postal. Call a spade a spade. McViegh was a far right loony. Probably mentally ill. Perhaps influenced by his environment. Surely impacted by out of bounds government actions at RR and Waco.

But there has been a noteable lack of media inquiry into what made those i mentioned tick in the same vein and amount of those on TM. The Aurora shooter Occupy Wall Street link is extremely disturbing. If only in that it has been out there for quite a while and no apparent media inquiries have emerged that i have seen.

powerlifter54 wrote:
But there has been a noteable lack of media inquiry into what made those i mentioned tick in the same vein and amount of those on TM.

I thought they had that pretty well sussed out, since at least Columbine. It was Marilyn Manson, or rock and roll in general.

I'm not sure if this thread is a new high or low point for this forum.

Either way, it's quite special.