“I will speak until I can no longer speak,” Paul said. “I will speak as long as it takes, until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our Constitution is important, that your rights to trial by jury are precious, that no American should be killed by a drone on American soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court.”
Mao wrote:Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party
“I will speak until I can no longer speak,” Paul said. “I will speak as long as it takes, until the alarm is sounded from coast to coast that our Constitution is important, that your rights to trial by jury are precious, that no American should be killed by a drone on American soil without first being charged with a crime, without first being found to be guilty by a court.”
Was watching it earlier. It was actually interesting.
Saw Mike Lee questioning Holder and thought he did well, too.
"Gentle in what you do, Firm in how you do it"
- Buck Brannaman
Visited the CNN homepage to see what attention they are giving to it. They are leading with how terrible the Syrian gov't is to be killing their own citizens, followed by news of a lion attacking a worker in a wildlife park and then something about Facebook thinking of changing things about their news feed.
Ron Wyden (D-OR) has helped out and the ACLU has said they support it - this kind of thing needs to be supported across all kinds of party lines.
WildGorillaMan wrote:Enthusiasm combined with no skill whatsoever can sometimes carry the day.
Terry B. wrote:Visited the CNN homepage to see what attention they are giving to it. They are leading with how terrible the Syrian gov't is to be killing their own citizens, followed by news of a lion attacking a worker in a wildlife park and then something about Facebook thinking of changing things about their news feed.
Ron Wyden (D-OR) has helped out and the ACLU has said they support it - this kind of thing needs to be supported across all kinds of party lines.
Wyden is one of the good dems on these issues.
"Gentle in what you do, Firm in how you do it"
- Buck Brannaman
I think he went 12 hours and 52 minutes. Should have hooked up a stadium pal. Old Strom pissed in a bucket or something during his 24+ filibuster, didn't he?
"Gentle in what you do, Firm in how you do it"
- Buck Brannaman
"The biggest problems that we’re facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all."
LOL at this-- the posters here who go apeshit over every instance of police brutality they can find don't really give a shit when a politician actually tries to get a clear definition of acceptable domestic use of force (something that, FWIW, Holder's response really didn't define).
"Liberalism is arbitrarily selective in its choice of whose dignity to champion." Adrian Vermeule
Turdacious wrote:LOL at this-- the posters here who go apeshit over every instance of police brutality they can find don't really give a shit when a politician actually makes a point of trying to get a clear definition of acceptable domestic use of force (something that, FWIW, Holder's response really didn't define).
Huh? Isn't everyone on this thread supporting Rand? Why are your panties in a bunch?
Turdacious wrote:LOL at this-- the posters here who go apeshit over every instance of police brutality they can find don't really give a shit when a politician actually makes a point of trying to get a clear definition of acceptable domestic use of force (something that, FWIW, Holder's response really didn't define).
Huh? Isn't everyone on this thread supporting Rand? Why are your panties in a bunch?
The response from the 'fuck the police' crowd has been pretty meh.
"Liberalism is arbitrarily selective in its choice of whose dignity to champion." Adrian Vermeule
Turdacious wrote:LOL at this-- the posters here who go apeshit over every instance of police brutality they can find don't really give a shit when a politician actually tries to get a clear definition of acceptable domestic use of force (something that, FWIW, Holder's response really didn't define).
Pinky wrote:Rand Paul is the best person in the Senate.
But he's a Libertarian and doesn't really fit in there.
He doesn't fit in because he's better than they are.
"The biggest problems that we’re facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all."
Turdacious wrote:That's one. Apparently all the others are in their dorm rooms, staring at their Ron Paul posters, masturbating while wearing Guy Fawkes masks.
Turdacious wrote:LOL at this-- the posters here who go apeshit over every instance of police brutality they can find don't really give a shit when a politician actually tries to get a clear definition of acceptable domestic use of force (something that, FWIW, Holder's response really didn't define).
To whom are you speaking? I think Rand is doing the lords work. Holder's dodge was well played..but a dodge nonetheless.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Turdacious wrote:That's one. Apparently all the others are in their dorm rooms, staring at their Ron Paul posters, masturbating while wearing Guy Fawkes masks.
Turdacious wrote:LOL at this-- the posters here who go apeshit over every instance of police brutality they can find don't really give a shit when a politician actually tries to get a clear definition of acceptable domestic use of force (something that, FWIW, Holder's response really didn't define).
To whom are you speaking? I think Rand is doing the lords work. Holder's dodge was well played..but a dodge nonetheless.
You've been mighty quiet until now. And I disagree about Holder's dodge-- if Rand really understands political theater, he will use Holder's lack of precision to good effect. Why DHS needs MRAPs, especially given the timing of the contract being awarded, would seem to be a related question.
"Liberalism is arbitrarily selective in its choice of whose dignity to champion." Adrian Vermeule
Turdacious wrote:LOL at this-- the posters here who go apeshit over every instance of police brutality they can find don't really give a shit when a politician actually tries to get a clear definition of acceptable domestic use of force (something that, FWIW, Holder's response really didn't define).
To whom are you speaking? I think Rand is doing the lords work. Holder's dodge was well played..but a dodge nonetheless.
You've been mighty quiet until now. And I disagree about Holder's dodge-- if Rand really understands political theater, he will use Holder's lack of precision to good effect. Why DHS needs MRAPs, especially given the timing of the contract being awarded, would seem to be a related question.
This is the first complaint of my posting too little.
Holder's memo was not directed at Rand Paul even though it was addressed to him, he's already fairly marginalized. It was directed at Obama's sycophantical base.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Holder's memo was not directed at Rand Paul even though it was addressed to him, he's already fairly marginalized.
Rand is pretty photogenic, speaks well, and hasn't pissed off religious conservatives-- he's a rising star whether the old guard likes it or not. He's the first libertarian since Goldwater to get any real traction with adult voters.
"Liberalism is arbitrarily selective in its choice of whose dignity to champion." Adrian Vermeule
He also rubs a lot of people the wrong way. I think he's doing a great job but I don't hold out a tremdous amount of hope. At the end of the day I'd take just a handful of moderate or even old guard folks to stand up and say..what the actual fuck?
McCain was right to question torture, even if he's become a useless scab otherwise. For this to continue getting traction, we need another one of those...or heaven forbid, a democrat actual question their glorious leader.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
(CNN) -- A Frenchman was captured among jihadists fighting international forces in northern Mali and is being extradited to France, the French defense minister said Friday.
French forces are dealing with "determined terrorists" in Mali, said Defense Minister Jean Yves Le Drian, speaking to French radio station Europe 1 from the African nation's capital, Bamako.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Blaidd Drwg wrote:He also rubs a lot of people the wrong way. I think he's doing a great job but I don't hold out a tremdous amount of hope. At the end of the day I'd take just a handful of moderate or even old guard folks to stand up and say..what the actual fuck?
McCain was right to question torture, even if he's become a useless scab otherwise. For this to continue getting traction, we need another one of those...or heaven forbid, a democrat actual question their glorious leader.
Ron Wyden's lacking the national exposure and clout, but he's the only dem who went out in support of Paul the other day. He's pretty good on civil liberties from what I can tell.
Guys like Cruz, Lee... Amash may have an opportunity at a senate seat now that Levin's not running for re-election. 2016 may be a little too early, but something pretty awesome could be brewing.
Probably not, but I hold out hope.
"Gentle in what you do, Firm in how you do it"
- Buck Brannaman
