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theAbstract wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:Based the available evidence, both Zimmerman and Trayvon made mistakes that night. I could care less about your conjecture or what the press has said or not said. I'll stick with the available evidence presented in court.

I agree.

The evidence shows me that George "go big or go home" Z. had a gun and approached Treyvon.

The evidence shows me that George "no swag" Z. got his ass served in the fight.

And without doubt George "have gun will shoot" Z. put a bullet in Treyvon's heart.

Mistakes?

A man is home watching Sponge Bob Squarepants and a kid is six feet under.

I don't care what the law says.

This isn't right and if Trayvon wasn't black and their wasn't hullabaloo around it most everyone here would say this whole situation is pure poo.

No, if Trayvon wasn't black it would never have been a story and Z would still be free. Even his phone buddy thinks Trayvon started the fight.

Who got suspended from school for fighting? Not George.

Who used racial slurs on the phone? Not George.

Was George foolish to confront Trayvon in person? Probably.

But all Trayvon had to do was say "Fuck off, Asshole!" and walk away. Instead he chose to attack.
However much you want to minimize that, being followed and spoken to does not grant the legal right to beat someone.

But then, you don't care what the law says, do you? I guess you just beat up strangers free of repercussions, yes?

But then, you don't care what the law says, do you? I guess you just beat up strangers free of repercussions, yes?

Never been followed around and confronted by an armed b@stard.
Never armed myself and then started a fight with a minor.

theAbstract wrote:The evidence shows me that George "go big or go home" Z. had a gun and approached Treyvon.

The evidence shows me that George "no swag" Z. got his ass served in the fight.

And without doubt George "have gun will shoot" Z. put a bullet in Treyvon's heart.

Mistakes?

A man is home watching Sponge Bob Squarepants and a kid is six feet under.

I don't care what the law says.

This isn't right and if Trayvon wasn't black and their wasn't hullabaloo around it most everyone here would say this whole situation is pure poo.

Approaching somebody isn't against the law (anywhere).

Packing a gun isn't against the law in Florida (or many places).

Striking and, to use your colloquial term "serving somebody's ass in a fight" is certainly illegal (everywhere).

Using deadly force to defend yourself from bodily harm isn't against the law in Florida (or most other places).

I don't understand the "I don't care what the law says" sentiment that people seem to have. Lobby to try to get new laws put on the books. Write your representatives to get current laws changed. Become part of the system to try and change things from within. But, hunt a guy down who was found not guilty and string him up because...because? Didn't the south move beyond lynch mobs already?

Who's this abstract guy and why is his trolling so weak.

baffled wrote:Who's this abstract guy and why is his trolling so weak.

It's Cleaner on his meds.

Terry B. wrote:

theAbstract wrote:The evidence shows me that George "go big or go home" Z. had a gun and approached Treyvon.

The evidence shows me that George "no swag" Z. got his ass served in the fight.

And without doubt George "have gun will shoot" Z. put a bullet in Treyvon's heart.

Mistakes?

A man is home watching Sponge Bob Squarepants and a kid is six feet under.

I don't care what the law says.

This isn't right and if Trayvon wasn't black and their wasn't hullabaloo around it most everyone here would say this whole situation is pure poo.

Approaching somebody isn't against the law (anywhere).

Packing a gun isn't against the law in Florida (or many places).

Striking and, to use your colloquial term "serving somebody's ass in a fight" is certainly illegal (everywhere).

Using deadly force to defend yourself from bodily harm isn't against the law in Florida (or most other places).

I don't understand the "I don't care what the law says" sentiment that people seem to have. Lobby to try to get new laws put on the books. Write your representatives to get current laws changed. Become part of the system to try and change things from within. But, hunt a guy down who was found not guilty and string him up because...because? Didn't the south move beyond lynch mobs already?

I care about the law. I have no problem with the verdict. You are innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. I think the jury made the right call. Clearly I am not very pro Zimmerman, and even I don't think he "murdered" Trayvon.

I do have a problem when the sole responsibility for that night is placed on the shoulders of a dead 17 year old kid, as per Anne Coulter's article.

I do not know how Florida law works, but I think this case is one that should be resolved in the Civil Court system.

And I do not think that it is a hate crime. I do not think that George Zimmerman is a racist. After listening to the trial, I do not even think he racially profiled Trayvon.

He made some terrible choices that night and now a kid is dead by his hand. It is tragedy.

theAbstract wrote:I do have a problem when the sole responsibility for that night is placed on the shoulders of a dead 17 year old kid, as per Anne Coulter's article.

I think she was placing the blame more on a culture that eschews personal responsibility, and embraces any pop culture image, meme, or artifact that embodies violence, drug use, misogyny, and "getting over".

Back to the title of this thread: Yes, Coulter has hyooge brass balls. Read Mugged. The woman is fearless.

johno wrote:Back to the title of this thread: Yes, Coulter has hyooge brass balls. Read Mugged. The woman is fearless.

That's on my list. Also enjoyed Demonic.