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A Greece man charged with shooting a 17-year-old to death testified at his own trial Tuesday.

Roderick Scott told the court he shot Christopher Cervini in self-defense.

Scott is charged with manslaughter in the April 4 shooting across the street from his home on Baneberry Way in Greece.

Scott told the court he confronted Cervini and other person as they broke into a neighbor's car. The other person ran away, but Scott said Cervini ran at him.

Scott already had his gun drawn. He said he told Cervini to stop, but the teen kept coming, so he shot him twice.



http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_st ... -shooting/

There are some interesting parallels to the Zimmerman case. Except the races are reversed (I assume "Cervini" is white). And the 17 year old never laid a hand on the shooter.
NY is not a Stand Your Ground jurisdiction.

Another shooter in the wrong (based on your quoted description of events...I don't cotton to no Greek news USA USA USA).

We covered this already the other day. No real parallels. In this case, the kid who got shot was actually committing crimes and was drunk and/or high, not getting profiled while minding his own business. The shooter was asleep at home, not patrolling for punks. Shooter had no violent history, unlike Zimmerman, and was immediately arrested and charged with 1st degree murder, unlike Zimmerman. There were also witnesses, so it wasn't the shooter's word against nobody, it was the shooter's word against guys with convictions who appeared not very credible on the stand.

Does the law consider telling someone to stop a reasonable attempt at retreat?

Another 17 year old kid dead.

Do we really not have stun guns, or paralyzing darts or anything like that.....

Another 17yo kid with a Darwin award.

You are well served teaching your children that they live in a dangerous and uncaring universe that does not listen to appeals for justice, equality, universal love, or deescalation of force once the shit hits the fan.

Irrelevant. Greeks don't no nuthin".

theAbstract wrote: Another 17 year old kid dead.

At 17, you know breaking into & stealing people's shit is wrong. And you know charging at someone is dangerous. No need to mourn this one.

I've heard way more than enough about this case. How long must I mourn for a 17 year old that I never knew. A lot of them are dying every minute.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:We covered this already the other day. No real parallels. In this case, the kid who got shot was actually committing crimes and was drunk and/or high, not getting profiled while minding his own business. The shooter was asleep at home, not patrolling for punks. Shooter had no violent history, unlike Zimmerman, and was immediately arrested and charged with 1st degree murder, unlike Zimmerman. There were also witnesses, so it wasn't the shooter's word against nobody, it was the shooter's word against guys with convictions who appeared not very credible on the stand.

You forgot the other points--
1. Unlicensed weapon (huge point)
2. Nobody (in the media anyway, so nobody important) cares about Roderick.

Stand your ground applies 100% between the crips and bloods.

White or black...as long as the scum is getting culled before it can breed.

Sterilization at birth! YEAH! Work for food scumbags!!

Turdacious wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:We covered this already the other day. No real parallels. In this case, the kid who got shot was actually committing crimes and was drunk and/or high, not getting profiled while minding his own business. The shooter was asleep at home, not patrolling for punks. Shooter had no violent history, unlike Zimmerman, and was immediately arrested and charged with 1st degree murder, unlike Zimmerman. There were also witnesses, so it wasn't the shooter's word against nobody, it was the shooter's word against guys with convictions who appeared not very credible on the stand.

You forgot the other points--
1. Unlicensed weapon (huge point)
2. Nobody (in the media anyway, so nobody important) cares about Roderick.

1. Subversion of the Constitution
2. True. I hope he gets off.

While the Abstracts of the world wring their hands over 17 year olds when considering them children is a relativity new thing (and a result of our successes but also an indicator of how over emotional and weakl we have become) and the Troys of the world think that sitting around waiting for the cops while crime is going on where you live is the nobil thing to do. The shit bags get hardr and the good weaker and when one tries to stand as a man is supposed to he is decried by those who enable the criminal classes and the cowardly.

Does that mean we should all become BatMan? No but it means a man has a right to rewgulate shit he see going down in his community. Of coarse he showed up to a group of punks with a gun in his had. As long as he did not walk up and execute anyone there should be no issue here other than highlighting what failures the parent(s) of this vermin are.

We need more dead Treyvons, not less if less means tying the hands of the decent, less is only acceptable when it's because more Treyvons learn to not have nigger moments.

I don't celebrate when 17 year old boys who are doing stupid things and making bad decisions are shot and killed.

He was a scum bag POS, of traditional military age and chargeable as an adult for criminal activity.

Zimmerman just helped pull a family from an overturned vehicle. If Treyvon had lived he very likely would have beat Zimmerman to a retard or killed him and he;d be stepping his game up.

So as someone who lived down in Fla. and knows that Treyvon's are legion down there, I say good fucking riddance.

So as someone who lived down in Fla. and knows that Treyvon's are legion down there, I say good fucking riddance.

Wow.

theAbstract wrote:

So as someone who lived down in Fla. and knows that Treyvon's are legion down there, I say good fucking riddance.

Wow.

If you lived down there (and were not ensconced in a gated community) you would not say wow, you would say true.

Walk on down Sistrunk Boulevard in Ft. Lauderdale or up by Copens in Pompano after dark, by yourself and tell me of all the love you feel. If you make it with out a beat down, rape or being murdered for the change in your pocket. And if you are white, I can almost guarantee it will start with "What cha do n round here, Cracka fhuck Nigga?"

And even in the better black areas, where people work, their kids aspire to be ghetto trash ala Martin.

Get 'em, Darth!

We need more dead Treyvons, not less if less means tying the hands of the decent, less is only acceptable when it's because more Treyvons learn to not have nigger moments.

The irony of the Trayvon situation is that you'd be first to teabag anybody here who bragged about stepping to someone following them on a dark street at night.

milosz wrote:

We need more dead Treyvons, not less if less means tying the hands of the decent, less is only acceptable when it's because more Treyvons learn to not have nigger moments.

The irony of the Trayvon situation is that you'd be first to teabag anybody here who bragged about stepping to someone following them on a dark street at night.

Got followed and accosted a few times when I was young. The difference is unless they were threatening violence or grabbed for me I did something Treyvon was incapable of doing, talking with respect. Being respectful to my elders unless they did something unworthy of respect.

By all accounts and all that can be proven, all Zimmerman did was ask "What are you doing here?"

Instead of being respectful and saying "My dad lives here, my mom lives here." or " I live here.", saying nothing and walking on or even telling him "None of your business Serpico." he responded with an assault, one that even by his own Jabbaskank's he was planning on from the get go.

Oh yeah and he doubled back to assault Zimerman, who had lost sight of him. Look at the evidence map, he was home free if he wanted to E&E. (Something I have also had to do a few times in my youth.)

Zimmerman was out to make sure that this was not yet another bugler in a neighbourhood that had a few of late (and Treyvon has been caught in the past with a burglary kit and woman's jewellery, so Zimm's hunch was probably a good one. Little fucker was probably casing shit on his way home for a later raid.)

Treyvon was out to throw a beat down and maybe worse on a creepy ass Cracka, even by the Prosecution’s witnesses testimony.

Case closed, Thug nigger got a bullet and we are one less scumfucking shitbag in the pool amnd one decent guy, who gives a fuck about others is alive.

As it should be.

Now go kiss your Ol' lady, so you can know what my balls taste like.

By all accounts and all that can be proven

Impressively weasel-like.

DARTH wrote:

theAbstract wrote:

So as someone who lived down in Fla. and knows that Treyvon's are legion down there, I say good fucking riddance.

Wow.

If you lived down there (and were not ensconced in a gated community) you would not say wow, you would say true.

Walk on down Sistrunk Boulevard in Ft. Lauderdale or up by Copens in Pompano after dark, by yourself and tell me of all the love you feel. If you make it with out a beat down, rape or being murdered for the change in your pocket. And if you are white, I can almost guarantee it will start with "What cha do n round here, Cracka fhuck Nigga?"

And even in the better black areas, where people work, their kids aspire to be ghetto trash ala Martin.

I am no stranger to the reality of dangerous neighborhoods and believe it or not, you are not telling me anything I don't know.

But despite this, I still do not get any pleasure when I hear that a 17 year old is killed. Even the so-called "bad" ones.

From your posts you sound like a dedicated father. I respect that.

It may be an arbitrary line, but when I see a 17 year old I see someone's kid. (And the older I get, the farther that arbitrary line moves. 19? Your still a baby in this world.)

And even if that kid has got to the point where his values and character have fallen apart, I still feel bad. I believe that given a different set of circumstances, that kid would have turned out alright.

I'm not naive. Kids can end up violent and dangerous and there will be times when a person is going to use lethal force out of necessity. (I do not buy that the Treyvon Martin case was one of those times, but I wasn't there.)

Still, there is nothing to celebrate when someone is killed.

One of the reasons I am a dedicated father as I have seen members of my own family, blood and adopted become victimising, criminal scum. It is my job to do all I can to keep this from happening because if I fail, one of my kids could catch a deserved bullet.

Everyone is some one's kid. And while I will say it speaks well of your compassion and humanity to attach so much value to those you don't know, the only thing that makes a life precious IMO is the worth others attach to that life because when you remove sentimentality life is cheaper than dirt.

So outside of those I personally hold dear, I attach that preciousness to those who don't go around fucking others over and beating them violently for nothing more than kicks, ego or their way of making a living.

If Treyvon was the little guy, just coming home from getting some Skittles and shot down by a racist as initially reported, I would find it sad and would feel outrage. As much as I have seen blacks be niggers I have also seen whites be real, evil racist scum to black people who seemed to me completely decent and I found it ugly and revolting.

But having dealt with his kind sooooo many times. Having their kind try to hurt or kill me, have killed friends of mine, have hurt friends and loved ones including a friend who was a genius but who will drool on himself for the rest of his days because of thug scum. I say Fuck 'em.

Never been to a war but have seen and smacked up to the elephant of violence in our own society (much of it completely ignored by the media. Never saw a single report on TV news in So Flo about Cracker day beat downs that were rampant there) so many fucking times with no cops jumping out to help and seeing mercy given to scum and people hurt because of it. (Mercy can only be given to an adversary from a postilion of complete dominance)

So yes, Darth is a hard ass, Darth has spent and continues to spend a lot of his time and energy becoming better at responding and dishing out violence and many of you might view me as a crazy strip mall Ninja but it is because I care about good people and what is good in me. Yes Darth has an evil attitude towards scum and our nation's enemies.

We get in conversations involving such more often than not. If this was music forum or a Arts and Entertainment forum, you would see a whole another side of me, the part the hard and martially bent seeks to protect.

Some people will never be able to successfully stand up to scum and wrong, and I don't judge them as lessers (they are the unwillfully weak to be protected as opposed to the willfully weak who deserve their lot) but I have been able to and personally I think if you can then you do. Whether you choose it as a profession as a soldier or a cop or just a civilian who when they see shit goes down and no cops in sight does not take the cowardly rationalisation of just staying in the shadows and "be a good witness" as someone gets fucked up, robbed or killed.

"All the evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing." is so true, I have seen it and lived it. I watched a neighbourhood go to shit. While I live in this one, that will only happen over my dead body.

So yes on one hand Treyvon was a tragedy because he was middle class and had no excuses to Thug life but he chose it and instead of the beating and humiliation he would have felt at the hands of one such as me or better (that MIGHT have made him reevaluate his life?), he got the bullet. But all the hand wringing over him and excuses for his acts lessons that tragedy and makes it easier to just look at the one less thug who will hurt others aspect.

I respect that.

I admire that you see it as our responsibilities to try and protect our families and our communities, and agree.

Lets hug.