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ImUndaYourBed wrote:Plato hates you, Dr.

I don't care what proto's brother thinks about me.

Bob Wildes wrote:

ImUndaYourBed wrote:Plato hates you, Dr.

That might be a good thing since Plato was a fagula.

Plato is some of the most overrated shit I have ever read. TORTURE it was to read. It's a fucking ground work for Statism and Communism, probably why he continues to be ppt up on such a pedestal.


Other than Republic, most of his shit is him saying "Yeah man! What he said!" to the ideas of Socrates.

As Mark Antony and Vorenus said on Rome (the show) Antony "Do you think it's true, what the Greeks say?"

Vorenus "Greeks say all kinds of things. Fuck'em!"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1h0pjVwGDI[/youtube]

DARTH wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:

ImUndaYourBed wrote:Plato hates you, Dr.

That might be a good thing since Plato was a fagula.

Plato is some of the most overrated shit I have ever read. TORTURE it was to read. It's a fucking ground work for Statism and Communism, probably why he continues to be ppt up on such a pedestal.


Other than Republic, most of his shit is him saying "Yeah man! What he said!" to the ideas of Socrates.

As Mark Antony and Vorenus said on Rome (the show) Antony "Do you think it's true, what the Greeks say?"

Vorenus "Greeks say all kinds of things. Fuck'em!"

I haven't read much by him, but generally I agree with you. He's very fond of absolute statements. Usually when I read him I find myself doubting most of the things he asserts.

Remembered this thread when reading accounts of Little Big Horn aka Custer's Last Stand.

Maj. Reno had three companies of men, and found himself engaged with a much larger Lakota and Cheyenne. After 20 minutes of fighting, he'd lost one man(!), and as the enemy force was still growing he attempted to retreat. Then he lost 40.

Particularly with the Lakota thing about counting coup, which involved a lot of posturing, it's interesting to see how hard it is to get effective killing until the other side decides to run away. Sort of like prey drive in dogs.

It's strange to think of the US Army fighting wars against hunter/gatherers with bows and arrows after the Civil War.

And then 3years latter, in South Africa was;

the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana


Don't let yourself get over run and then surrounded, they get fucking close enough, shields and spears are better than 3 shot rifles, even Martini-Henry’s.

(BTW Some think a German told Shaka of how the Roman's fought and that's when Shaka shortened their spear. I would not doubt it. He was a smart bastard and if some European told him of conquest and showed him how he could adopt a weapons or tactic ( Tales of how the Mongols enveloped enemies in an ever tightening circle of death.)

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke%27s_Drift

If you have an Engineer’s Officer, who understands how fortification and defensive positions can work against attacks by primitively armed (for the most part, they had some rifles but you don't learn much in 2-3 days of marching.) tribal warriors and you are in charge, well you can now use that Martini-Henry and it's big "Fuck You!" bullet to great effect and split skulls and shatter breastbones with hit, soft led, and pile those fuckers in mounds, stack them like sandbags durring the lulls and then do it again. Fuckers will be slipping, slidding and tripping over blood, shit, gore and their dead fucking freinds.

I don;t give a fuck how savage, brutal, primitive and drugged up you are, that's gotta have a cumlative effect on every wave that ends that fucking way.

And seeing the heads of the guys who did get in among the Brits being flung over the corpse walls was probably a bit disheartening after awhile too?

Kaz loves the 2nd battle.

Great movie on it with Michael Cain in his first big pic.

DARTH wrote:And then 3years latter, in South Africa was;

the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana


Don't let yourself get over run and then surrounded, they get fucking close enough, shields and spears are better than 3 shot rifles, even Martini-Henry’s.

(BTW Some think a German told Shaka of how the Roman's fought and that's when Shaka shortened their spear. I would not doubt it. He was a smart bastard and if some European told him of conquest and showed him how he could adopt a weapons or tactic ( Tales of how the Mongols enveloped enemies in an ever tightening circle of death.)

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke%27s_Drift

If you have an Engineer’s Officer, who understands how fortification and defensive positions can work against attacks by primitively armed (for the most part, they had some rifles but you don't learn much in 2-3 days of marching.) tribal warriors and you are in charge, well you can now use that Martini-Henry and it's big "Fuck You!" bullet to great effect and split skulls and shatter breastbones with hit, soft led, and pile those fuckers in mounds, stack them like sandbags durring the lulls and then do it again. Fuckers will be slipping, slidding and tripping over blood, shit, gore and their dead fucking freinds.

I don;t give a fuck how savage, brutal, primitive and drugged up you are, that's gotta have a cumlative effect on every wave that ends that fucking way.

And seeing the heads of the guys who did get in among the Brits being flung over the corpse walls was probably a bit disheartening after awhile too?

Kaz loves the 2nd battle.

Great movie on it with Michael Cain in his first big pic.

My god, the poetry ...

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
It's strange to think of the US Army fighting wars against hunter/gatherers with bows and arrows after the Civil War.

Yeah, they still had bows, but their Henry lever actions probably hurt Custer's men worse. Those guys were issued single-shot carbines.