Koko, Beware wrote:There was a pretty good exchange between Lord Rip and Master North, the Leader of Attitude Nation, on ss.com a while back. Gotta find it again. Some gems.
That entire thread on Starting Strength (and indeed maybe every Starting Strength forumz thread ever) is Exhibit A for why the Internet should have been kept limited to scientists comparing research results.
Koko, Beware wrote:There was a pretty good excbe ihange between Lord Rip and Master North, the Leader of Attitude Nation, on ss.com a while back. Gotta find it again. Some gems.
That entire thread on Starting Strength (and indeed maybe every Starting Strength forumz thread ever) is Exhibit A for why the Internet should have been kept limited to scientists comparing research results.
Why do you guys do this to yourselves?
Schadenfreude.
Also fyi my phone wants to autocorrect wildgorillaman to wild go fill a man. Heyoooo
and a shitty coach in the classic CF tradition where you berate your lifters as a psych up....
I'm sorry chump...if your lifer needs a bunch of external psych to be on the platform, you have not done your job...only shitbirds and domestic violence victims responds to that style.
He punched his girlfriend? What's the story behind that?
Is that the chick he is now married to?
My cousin is a redheaded german-mexican, we call him a beanerschnitzel
and a shitty coach in the classic CF tradition where you berate your lifters as a psych up....
I'm sorry chump...if your lifer needs a bunch of external psych to be on the platform, you have not done your job...only shitbirds and domestic violence victims responds to that style.
He punched his girlfriend? What's the story behind that?
Is that the chick he is now married to?
I multiple eyewitnesses. He punched her after missing a lift at a meet. Yes..same chick.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Funny thing. If weightlifting provided scholarships or a means to make a living (which wasn't the case before muscle driver came on the scene), we'd have a viable men's Olympic team. I see freaks on a regular basis who could outlift most of the guys on our current national team (said woman abuser included) but would rather play football or throw for track and field. Shame really.
Miss Piggy wrote:Never eat more than you can lift.
syaigh wrote:Funny thing. If weightlifting provided scholarships or a means to make a living (which wasn't the case before muscle driver came on the scene), we'd have a viable men's Olympic team. I see freaks on a regular basis who could outlift most of the guys on our current national team (said woman abuser included) but would rather play football or throw for track and field. Shame really.
I'm not around any Olympic lifters so I can't speak on that but I agree that if money were involved things would be different. I'm just curious, what kind of money is muscle driver putting up for their lifters? And where is all the money coming from? I can't imagine they are getting rich from equipment sales but I've been wrong before.
T200 wrote:Drinking is for posers until you are drinking Everclear from a an old freebase kit you found in the park.
As a disinterested observer, the largest problem I see with American Weightlifting is that even at the highest levels, it seems to be populated with people who think that a 550 pound back squat is actually impressive, and not pitifully weak for anyone who wants to compete in any competitions that actually matter (i.e. not any American ones).
Along with this seems to go the absolutely stunning attitude that winning the American Nationals is impressive, a not a terrible mark of shame that you're slumming it.
Go in any large CF gym and count up the MD equipment. Like tens of thousands of dollars worth. I wonder if they offered college scholarships instead of sponsoring jackasses how that would change things .. . .
Miss Piggy wrote:Never eat more than you can lift.
syaigh wrote:Funny thing. If weightlifting provided scholarships or a means to make a living (which wasn't the case before muscle driver came on the scene), we'd have a viable men's Olympic team. I see freaks on a regular basis who could outlift most of the guys on our current national team (said woman abuser included) but would rather play football or throw for track and field. Shame really.
it isn't a shame, its called playing a sport that can potentially make them money (or get them a scholarship) over lifting weights..
The problem with weightlifting in America is its essentially a training day as a meet, its fucking boring as a sport. All lifting really is. We like it, but the vast majority of people are never going to give a shit about it.
syaigh wrote:Go in any large CF gym and count up the MD equipment. Like tens of thousands of dollars worth. I wonder if they offered college scholarships instead of sponsoring jackasses how that would change things .. . .
I live on the southwest Virginia and southern West Virginia border, hillbilly country. We have one crosscut that just opened, it's a fucking dump about 500sqft with bits and pieces of handmedown equipment. So I will have to take your word for it. Like I said I'm not in the loop on this shit at all so was just kinda curious. I just assumed the big crossfit gyms went mainly with rogue fitness gear.
T200 wrote:Drinking is for posers until you are drinking Everclear from a an old freebase kit you found in the park.
syaigh wrote:Funny thing. If weightlifting provided scholarships or a means to make a living (which wasn't the case before muscle driver came on the scene), we'd have a viable men's Olympic team. I see freaks on a regular basis who could outlift most of the guys on our current national team (said woman abuser included) but would rather play football or throw for track and field. Shame really.
it isn't a shame, its called playing a sport that can potentially make them money (or get them a scholarship) over lifting weights..
The problem with weightlifting in America is its essentially a training day as a meet, its fucking boring as a sport. All lifting really is. We like it, but the vast majority of people are never going to give a shit about it.
You could say the same around a bunch of field events, too. But they have scholarships for shotputters and discus throwers and they do okay.
syaigh wrote:Funny thing. If weightlifting provided scholarships or a means to make a living (which wasn't the case before muscle driver came on the scene), we'd have a viable men's Olympic team. I see freaks on a regular basis who could outlift most of the guys on our current national team (said woman abuser included) but would rather play football or throw for track and field. Shame really.
it isn't a shame, its called playing a sport that can potentially make them money (or get them a scholarship) over lifting weights..
The problem with weightlifting in America is its essentially a training day as a meet, its fucking boring as a sport. All lifting really is. We like it, but the vast majority of people are never going to give a shit about it.
You could say the same around a bunch of field events, too. But they have scholarships for shotputters and discus throwers and they do okay.
Exactly, that's the thing... scholarships. Not many people want to play a sport with almost nothing as a return
syaigh wrote:Funny thing. If weightlifting provided scholarships or a means to make a living (which wasn't the case before muscle driver came on the scene), we'd have a viable men's Olympic team. I see freaks on a regular basis who could outlift most of the guys on our current national team (said woman abuser included) but would rather play football or throw for track and field. Shame really.
it isn't a shame, its called playing a sport that can potentially make them money (or get them a scholarship) over lifting weights..
The problem with weightlifting in America is its essentially a training day as a meet, its fucking boring as a sport. All lifting really is. We like it, but the vast majority of people are never going to give a shit about it.
You could say the same around a bunch of field events, too. But they have scholarships for shotputters and discus throwers and they do okay.
Exactly, that's the thing... scholarships. Not many people want to play a sport with almost nothing as a return
You'd need high schools with programs to make it work.
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OCG wrote:As a disinterested observer, the largest problem I see with American Weightlifting is that even at the highest levels, it seems to be populated with people who think that a 550 pound back squat is actually impressive, and not pitifully weak for anyone who wants to compete in any competitions that actually matter (i.e. not any American ones).
Along with this seems to go the absolutely stunning attitude that winning the American Nationals is impressive, a not a terrible mark of shame that you're slumming it.
Know how I know you're fucking gay? You said BACK SQUAT.
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