Why racism is contemptible

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:40 pm

nafod wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:[Reading and writing racist shit is bad for you, regardless of the merits of the racist argument.
It's good for self-esteem. You never stand so tall as when you kick the midget next you in the nuts.

That is the stupidest shit I have heard so far today....and I work with lawyers.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 6:56 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:
nafod wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:[Reading and writing racist shit is bad for you, regardless of the merits of the racist argument.
It's good for self-esteem. You never stand so tall as when you kick the midget next you in the nuts.
That is the stupidest shit I have heard so far today....and I work with lawyers.

You're kidding, right? You don't think there's an element of power tripping to some racism?

DrDonkeyLove · Post by **DrDonkeyLove** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:02 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:Given that I'm snowed in, here's a deeper dive into why racism is so poisonous, and I'll try to deal with some of the points raised in this and other threads on the issue.
You're doing it wrong.

The problem with vocal racism for the individual is the same as it is for people who walk around talking about being pissed off at Republicans, or Muslims, or Wall Street, or Whitey, or Al Sharpton. Occupying your thoughts with constant negativity is poisonous for you, all by itself.

If you've ever cut a person out of your life because they were too negative, or had one cut out for you, you've felt the difference. If you cut out (constant bad) news media, you've felt the difference.

OTOH, if you see somebody who spends all day with Fox or talk Radio or Olbermann on, you see a lot of this. People walk around angry all the time, usually at things completely outside their direct control. Walking around pissed off at things you can't control is pretty much the opposite of what you want to do if you want a happy and successful life.

What you consume directly impacts what you think about. Venting about stuff you hate makes you crazy. Reading and writing racist shit is bad for you, regardless of the merits of the racist argument.

Good points. I'd just add that being angry to the point of "crazy" has an upside. It's the same type of fuel used to foster the rebellion that created this land, that drove the abolitionist movement, and advanced union rights. The depredations and failures of BushBama are well worthy of anger as expressed by the Tea Party and OWS. Considering the damage BushBama and their fellow travelers have committed, I submit that more anger is in order, not less.

The failures of the progressive state and the dire situation of much of our black population is very worthy of rage. Whether you think it should be Sharpton & DiBlasio style rage or Kaz style rage is a matter for debate. Frankly, I see little difference, except in choice of language and perspective, between what Kaz is saying and the White Privilege crowd has been up to. Yet, Kaz' perspective is considered that of an off balance contemptable racist while the White Privilege crowd is embraced by our elite betters. Ridiculous.

Andy83 · Post by **Andy83** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:04 pm

Nevermind all them big words and historical philosophicals. Just stay off my lawn or else.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:08 pm

nafod wrote:You're kidding, right? You don't think there's an element of power tripping to some racism?

Firstly...read what you wrote....It's specifically not good for self esteem...and depressants aren't good for depression either but this place is soaking in that behavior.

Second, Spells/HH et al are descending into fuckin madness talking about the ill-health of words and ideas.

I tell you what's toxic as fuck, the way this whining derails forthright dialogue. I mean, I care about you guys so when you cry in your blankies, I feel sorry for you...and nothing is worse for direct communication that an abundance of pity.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:47 pm

nafod wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:But more than that, with Locke, it enshrined the notion that the state cannot act on harmful prejudice to interfere with any man's God-given natural rights.
My favorite philosopher by far.

Sondra Locke is your favorite philosopher?

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:00 pm

Turdacious wrote:
nafod wrote:
Hebrew Hammer wrote:But more than that, with Locke, it enshrined the notion that the state cannot act on harmful prejudice to interfere with any man's God-given natural rights.
My favorite philosopher by far.

Sondra Locke is your favorite philosopher?

Yes. Nasty, brutish, and short.

Thatcher II · Post by **Thatcher II** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:18 pm

Test post. Test post. I think I'm being censored. Test post.

Thatcher II · Post by **Thatcher II** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:19 pm

Fucking PHEW.

johno · Post by **johno** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:29 pm

DrDonkeyLove wrote: The failures of the progressive state and the dire situation of much of our black population is very worthy of rage.

^^^The Doctor saved me a lot of time.

And, to repeat myself, the willful blindness to those failures, and the whitewashing of them with the White Racism Brush deserves vigorous condemnation.

It's FUCKING EVIL to coach little black kids to feel victimized by the US. It's FUCKING EVIL to tell them that they can't measure up, and that they shouldn't Act White. That is what truly deserves scorn, vitriol, and contempt.

And, if you comprehend the above, then take the "White Racism" plank out of your eye before you so righteously condemn Kaz for the "Nigger" splinter in his.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:42 pm

Gorbachev wrote:Fucking PHEW.

marked for deletion

Thatcher II · Post by **Thatcher II** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:33 am

protobuilder wrote:
Gorbachev wrote:Fucking PHEW.
marked for deletion

You're a real ASSHOLE.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:39 am

johno wrote:It's FUCKING EVIL to coach little black kids to feel victimized by the US. It's FUCKING EVIL to tell them that they can't measure up, and that they shouldn't Act White. That is what truly deserves scorn, vitriol, and contempt.

Of course it does. The difference is, I don't know anyone who actually supports the views you're describing. The allegedly far lefty commie pinko president condemned them 10 years ago. You're describing the least common denominator victimization crowd, and acting as though that's an accurate description of "Black America," when that's no more the case than Kaz's views representing White America.

And, if you comprehend the above, then take the "White Racism" plank out of your eye before you so righteously condemn Kaz for the "Nigger" splinter in his.

Nobody here actually writes about supporting the above views, or that America deserved 9/11, or that Mitt Romney is a secret werewolf. Kaz, OTOH, is actually spouting repellent shit, and is spouting it, here, so those are the views that end up getting disagreed with.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:49 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
johno wrote:It's FUCKING EVIL to coach little black kids to feel victimized by the US. It's FUCKING EVIL to tell them that they can't measure up, and that they shouldn't Act White. That is what truly deserves scorn, vitriol, and contempt.
Of course it does. The difference is, I don't know anyone who actually supports the views you're describing.

You never took any college liberal arts classes?

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:54 am

Turdacious wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
johno wrote:It's FUCKING EVIL to coach little black kids to feel victimized by the US. It's FUCKING EVIL to tell them that they can't measure up, and that they shouldn't Act White. That is what truly deserves scorn, vitriol, and contempt.
Of course it does. The difference is, I don't know anyone who actually supports the views you're describing.
You never took any college liberal arts classes?

You think the people defending "having books is acting white" are at college?

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:56 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
johno wrote:It's FUCKING EVIL to coach little black kids to feel victimized by the US. It's FUCKING EVIL to tell them that they can't measure up, and that they shouldn't Act White. That is what truly deserves scorn, vitriol, and contempt.
Of course it does. The difference is, I don't know anyone who actually supports the views you're describing.
You never took any college liberal arts classes?
You think the people defending "having books is acting white" are at college?

Talking about the educators.

Shafpocalypse Now · Post by **Shafpocalypse Now** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:09 am

So, what is contemptible here?

The denigration of American ghetto black culture?
The word 'nigger' itself?

Or actual hatred for blacks in general?

Is pointing out the fact that far, far more blacks victimize whites in crime racist?
Is getting into a fight with a black racist?
Is hating rap music racist?

Is hating individual blacks racist, or is the institutional hatred of all blacks racist?

Is setting different standards for blacks racist?

johno · Post by **johno** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:14 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
johno wrote:It's FUCKING EVIL to coach little black kids to feel victimized by the US. It's FUCKING EVIL to tell them that they can't measure up, and that they shouldn't Act White. That is what truly deserves scorn, vitriol, and contempt.
Of course it does. The difference is, I don't know anyone who actually supports the views you're describing.

Don't play dumb.

What gets more play from the major news networks, the President, and the general culture?
What is the meme that is on constant replay from black "leaders" to the vast majority of black children & teens?

1 - White racism is the cause of black folks' problems. (Ooh, look: a cop questioned Prof. Gates…racism. "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon (who got murdered by a dirty cop wannabe)" or Oprah: "Republicans oppose Obamacare because the President is black." etc. Those who say that should get no more credibility than Kaz's over the top rants.

2 - Black folks can succeed in this country if they apply themselves. Blacks are as intelligent and able as any other race.

JDub · Post by **JDub** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:15 am

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:So, what is contemptible here?

The denigration of American ghetto black culture?
The word 'nigger' itself?

Or actual hatred for blacks in general?

Is pointing out the fact that far, far more blacks victimize whites in crime racist?
Is getting into a fight with a black racist?
Is hating rap music racist?

Is hating individual blacks racist, or is the institutional hatred of all blacks racist?

Is setting different standards for blacks racist?

Ooh ooh I know this one!

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:26 am

Turdacious wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:You think the people defending "having books is acting white" are at college?
Talking about the educators.

The educators in the liberal arts classes spend all their time trying to beat moral relativism out of their students' heads. The people espousing "books are for white people" live in the ghetto and never get near a college.

Shafpocalypse Now · Post by **Shafpocalypse Now** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:37 am

fact: if you are white and adopt a black child you are expected to go to black churches, black schools, and generally make sure your new child learns black culture

Fact: if black a kills black b, and blacks c through z see it, none of them will say they did to the police

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:47 am

johno wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
johno wrote:It's FUCKING EVIL to coach little black kids to feel victimized by the US. It's FUCKING EVIL to tell them that they can't measure up, and that they shouldn't Act White. That is what truly deserves scorn, vitriol, and contempt.
Of course it does. The difference is, I don't know anyone who actually supports the views you're describing.
Don't play dumb.

What gets more play from the major news networks, the President, and the general culture?

Are we pretending you watch the major news networks instead of what right wing media says the major news networks report? I don't watch either. I know what the President says about race, and it's never objectionable. If somebody said "having books is acting white" I'd tell them to STFU. No intelligent person of any political stripe makes such an argument.

What is the meme that is on constant replay from black "leaders" to the vast majority of black children & teens?

Neither of your options. They say "Stay in school," "Vote," and in high crime areas, "Stop the violence." It's constant enough to be annoying. The only way I hear about Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton any more is from Republicans complaining they don't support white civil rights enough.

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Gene · Post by **Gene** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:01 am

Progressives are closet racists...

Another reason some Hollywood progressives have been reticent to speak out against war in Syria, according to Asner, is fear of being called racist.

"A lot of people don't want to feel anti-black by being opposed to Obama," he said.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/s ... war-623326

Progressives have given Obama a pass on signing the Food Safety Act of 2010, which was written by Ag Industry Lobbyists. Obama is a shameless Corporate whore for General Electric. His African Trip sold NG turbines to Nigeria. Most of the "Green Energy" that Obama promotes are GE Turbines. Obamacare as it was intended is a Profit Machine for the Medical Insurance Industry.

They won't call him on it because they are afraid people would recognize their covert racism.

Same way that people here pretend that the "Warrior Culture" of black males isn't there.

The leading cause of death for an African American male from late teens to early twenties is murder. His white peers die in auto wrecks. Progressives don't care about the "Warrior Culture" or the war on drugs - they want to give the drug gangs new things to sell - guns!

Gene · Post by **Gene** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:02 am

I am starting to refer to Steve Troy as "Steve Troll". I think he gets off getting people all stirred up with his establishment bullshit.

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