Why racism is contemptible

syaigh · Post by **syaigh** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:03 am

Well, aside from the fact that I think Kaz is a black social worker . . . (ruminate on that scenario)

Here's what I think.

I have a lot of black colleagues whom I respect a great deal. If I were in a room with a white person throwing the n-word around, I would be extremely uncomfortable. If I were in a room with those black colleagues and a black person was throwing the n-word around, I know that all of us would be extremely uncomfortable.

No matter how you define it, "nigger" was a word that had no boundaries and was used to describe ALL black people in a denigrating way. To make them inferior and unworthy of our care or compassion. Educated, upright citizens of color should no doubt be extremely insulted when someone makes a statement about "niggers" because that word was not created to describe a certain subset of their race, it was used to make all them, no matter how hard they worked and how much progress they made, to feel inferior and hated.

So, its an ugly word and I hate it. Makes me sick to my stomach when I hear anyone use it, especially white people.

If you want to have social commentary on the extremely unfortunate ghetto culture, find a different word. Make up a new one. Or just define exactly who you're talking about. Because when I was a kid, a nigger was black person, no qualification needed. And I still feel that its that way. Just an insult like spic, hebe, etc. Dot-nigger, sand-nigger, those aren't words that qualify a particular type of Indian or Arab, they are just insults.

Up your game Kaz. I do think you have a lot of potential (and probably have a great deal of compassion, because people who don't care and aren't currently threatened, don't tend to spout on and on about these things unless they are sociopathic idiots) but you're squandering it. Maybe you are the latter, but I don't think you are.

Fuzzy Dunlop · Post by **Fuzzy Dunlop** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:18 am

Can someone please un-ban Rant for this discussion?

syaigh · Post by **syaigh** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:20 am

Shush yo moufs.

Kazuya Mishima · Post by **Kazuya Mishima** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:26 am

syaigh wrote:Well, aside from the fact that I think Kaz is a black social worker . . . (ruminate on that scenario)

Here's what I think.

I have a lot of black colleagues whom I respect a great deal. If I were in a room with a white person throwing the n-word around, I would be extremely uncomfortable. If I were in a room with those black colleagues and a black person was throwing the n-word around, I know that all of us would be extremely uncomfortable.

No matter how you define it, "nigger" was a word that had no boundaries and was used to describe ALL black people in a denigrating way. To make them inferior and unworthy of our care or compassion. Educated, upright citizens of color should no doubt be extremely insulted when someone makes a statement about "niggers" because that word was not created to describe a certain subset of their race, it was used to make all them, no matter how hard they worked and how much progress they made, to feel inferior and hated.

So, its an ugly word and I hate it. Makes me sick to my stomach when I hear anyone use it, especially white people.

If you want to have social commentary on the extremely unfortunate ghetto culture, find a different word. Make up a new one. Or just define exactly who you're talking about. Because when I was a kid, a nigger was black person, no qualification needed. And I still feel that its that way. Just an insult like spic, hebe, etc. Dot-nigger, sand-nigger, those aren't words that qualify a particular type of Indian or Arab, they are just insults.

Up your game Kaz. I do think you have a lot of potential (and probably have a great deal of compassion, because people who don't care and aren't currently threatened, don't tend to spout on and on about these things unless they are sociopathic idiots) but you're squandering it. Maybe you are the latter, but I don't think you are.

Fair and compassionate feedback...worthy of consideration.

Spider Monkey · Post by **Spider Monkey** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:42 am

This, and other threads, has been the most interesting discussions on this forum in quite some time.
I have a black dog who we sometimes jokingly refer to as the nigger, and a white dog who we sometimes jokingly refer to as white trash. They are dogs and as long as our tone is upbeat and treats are involved, they really don't notice the slur. i.e. we have a sense of humor.

I have a very close friend who is a black man. Mama died (bad stuff), raised by his grandmother with no father around. Typical ghetto stuff, but he did better. He is 30 years old, has a master's degree and is working on his PHD. He just got married to a wonderful gal who I would label as blaspanic (also with a masters degree). They will produce 2-3 productive and high achieving citizens. Never in a million years would I call this man a nigger. I hold him in the highest esteem. He is quality people. He is not a nigger in the Kaz sense.

Where I live there aren't many black people, but there is an abundance of pale folk who are the scum of the earth. 6 generations of welfare dependent sucks on society who have absolutely no desire to do better or contribute. I prefer not to give them a name. They just suck. I have a friend who is fostering 3 children. Mom is in jail for repeated drug offenses and dad is in jail for beating up mom. She describes these children as feral cats. They drive by the jail and the kids say, "That is where my dad lives!" A whole generation of kids that think it's ok for their parents to be in jail.

100 years ago, churches, synagogues, and rich people took care of people who didn't quite have the ambition to take care of themselves and that worked out pretty well for everyone. Now, we pay taxes. Those who receive benefits are not beholden to anyone, and no one is really looking out for them. Some people need more help than a check.

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:47 am

My brother in law named his one black hunting dog Charlie Pride because he was the lone nigger in the bunch.

dead man walking · Post by **dead man walking** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:01 am

Kazuya Mishima wrote:
syaigh wrote:Well, aside from the fact that I think Kaz is a black social worker . . . (ruminate on that scenario)

Here's what I think.

I have a lot of black colleagues whom I respect a great deal. If I were in a room with a white person throwing the n-word around, I would be extremely uncomfortable. If I were in a room with those black colleagues and a black person was throwing the n-word around, I know that all of us would be extremely uncomfortable.

No matter how you define it, "nigger" was a word that had no boundaries and was used to describe ALL black people in a denigrating way. To make them inferior and unworthy of our care or compassion. Educated, upright citizens of color should no doubt be extremely insulted when someone makes a statement about "niggers" because that word was not created to describe a certain subset of their race, it was used to make all them, no matter how hard they worked and how much progress they made, to feel inferior and hated.

So, its an ugly word and I hate it. Makes me sick to my stomach when I hear anyone use it, especially white people.

If you want to have social commentary on the extremely unfortunate ghetto culture, find a different word. Make up a new one. Or just define exactly who you're talking about. Because when I was a kid, a nigger was black person, no qualification needed. And I still feel that its that way. Just an insult like spic, hebe, etc. Dot-nigger, sand-nigger, those aren't words that qualify a particular type of Indian or Arab, they are just insults.

Up your game Kaz. I do think you have a lot of potential (and probably have a great deal of compassion, because people who don't care and aren't currently threatened, don't tend to spout on and on about these things unless they are sociopathic idiots) but you're squandering it. Maybe you are the latter, but I don't think you are.
Fair and compassionate feedback...worthy of consideration.

syaigh is often reasonable, uncommon in a women and usually out of place on igx

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:08 am

syaigh wrote:Well, aside from the fact that I think Kaz is a black social worker . . . (ruminate on that scenario)

Heh. Some of the most racist people I've ever met are immigrants who run small stores in the ghetto.

Batboy2/75 · Post by **Batboy2/75** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:34 am

With this being an internet forum, I've been waiting for someone to attack Hebrew Hammer for posting that racism is commendable.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:03 am

There are those who are Offensive and there are those who are Offended. I will never side with the "offended classes" because theirs is the way of simpering putrid weakness. If that means tolerating tremendously un-nieghborly behavior, so fucking be it.

milosz · Post by **milosz** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:08 am

Screaming Flying Monkey wrote:100 years ago, churches, synagogues, and rich people took care of people who didn't quite have the ambition to take care of themselves and that worked out pretty well for everyone.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:10 am

milosz wrote:
Screaming Flying Monkey wrote:100 years ago, churches, synagogues, and rich people took care of people who didn't quite have the ambition to take care of themselves and that worked out pretty well for everyone.

Nicely played.

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:32 am

dead man walking wrote:
syaigh is often reasonable, uncommon in a women and usually out of place on igx

True. I'd tap that white ass

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:55 am

milosz wrote:
Screaming Flying Monkey wrote:100 years ago, churches, synagogues, and rich people took care of people who didn't quite have the ambition to take care of themselves and that worked out pretty well for everyone.

Thatcher II · Post by **Thatcher II** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:38 am

Kazuya Mishima wrote:
syaigh wrote:Well, aside from the fact that I think Kaz is a black social worker . . . (ruminate on that scenario)

Here's what I think.

I have a lot of black colleagues whom I respect a great deal. If I were in a room with a white person throwing the n-word around, I would be extremely uncomfortable. If I were in a room with those black colleagues and a black person was throwing the n-word around, I know that all of us would be extremely uncomfortable.

No matter how you define it, "nigger" was a word that had no boundaries and was used to describe ALL black people in a denigrating way. To make them inferior and unworthy of our care or compassion. Educated, upright citizens of color should no doubt be extremely insulted when someone makes a statement about "niggers" because that word was not created to describe a certain subset of their race, it was used to make all them, no matter how hard they worked and how much progress they made, to feel inferior and hated.

So, its an ugly word and I hate it. Makes me sick to my stomach when I hear anyone use it, especially white people.

If you want to have social commentary on the extremely unfortunate ghetto culture, find a different word. Make up a new one. Or just define exactly who you're talking about. Because when I was a kid, a nigger was black person, no qualification needed. And I still feel that its that way. Just an insult like spic, hebe, etc. Dot-nigger, sand-nigger, those aren't words that qualify a particular type of Indian or Arab, they are just insults.

Up your game Kaz. I do think you have a lot of potential (and probably have a great deal of compassion, because people who don't care and aren't currently threatened, don't tend to spout on and on about these things unless they are sociopathic idiots) but you're squandering it. Maybe you are the latter, but I don't think you are.
Fair and compassionate feedback...worthy of consideration.

"Compassionate".... That's a very interesting word for you to use to describe Syiagh's post. I'm not sure anyone else would have used it.

Andy83 · Post by **Andy83** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:49 am

Now that I'm a Democrat I hate all Republcans. Fuckers wanna take away all my free stuff and make me go get one of them back breakin low pay jobs. Fuck that shit.
Over the years I've had a number of cool nigger friends. They taught me how to run some very lucrative scams.
BTW Spells...You still lookin fer a nice bike cheap? Pay some nigger kid 50 bucks to go steal a top of the line one for you.
Bet you wish you had it to ride to work today in the minus 50 goin on in Chicago now. No?

Kazuya Mishima · Post by **Kazuya Mishima** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:42 pm

Gorbachev wrote:
Kazuya Mishima wrote:
syaigh wrote:Well, aside from the fact that I think Kaz is a black social worker . . . (ruminate on that scenario)

Here's what I think.

I have a lot of black colleagues whom I respect a great deal. If I were in a room with a white person throwing the n-word around, I would be extremely uncomfortable. If I were in a room with those black colleagues and a black person was throwing the n-word around, I know that all of us would be extremely uncomfortable.

No matter how you define it, "nigger" was a word that had no boundaries and was used to describe ALL black people in a denigrating way. To make them inferior and unworthy of our care or compassion. Educated, upright citizens of color should no doubt be extremely insulted when someone makes a statement about "niggers" because that word was not created to describe a certain subset of their race, it was used to make all them, no matter how hard they worked and how much progress they made, to feel inferior and hated.

So, its an ugly word and I hate it. Makes me sick to my stomach when I hear anyone use it, especially white people.

If you want to have social commentary on the extremely unfortunate ghetto culture, find a different word. Make up a new one. Or just define exactly who you're talking about. Because when I was a kid, a nigger was black person, no qualification needed. And I still feel that its that way. Just an insult like spic, hebe, etc. Dot-nigger, sand-nigger, those aren't words that qualify a particular type of Indian or Arab, they are just insults.

Up your game Kaz. I do think you have a lot of potential (and probably have a great deal of compassion, because people who don't care and aren't currently threatened, don't tend to spout on and on about these things unless they are sociopathic idiots) but you're squandering it. Maybe you are the latter, but I don't think you are.
Fair and compassionate feedback...worthy of consideration.
"Compassionate".... That's a very interesting word for you to use to describe Syiagh's post. I'm not sure anyone else would have used it.

Oh dear, it sounds like you're struggling with uncertainty. Let me ground you in the concrete reality that I don't give a fuck what you think.

Kazuya Mishima · Post by **Kazuya Mishima** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:43 pm

Double post...I am offended.

DrDonkeyLove · Post by **DrDonkeyLove** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:35 pm

Turdacious wrote:
syaigh wrote:Well, aside from the fact that I think Kaz is a black social worker . . . (ruminate on that scenario)
Heh. Some of the most racist people I've ever met are immigrants who run small stores in the ghetto.

Is it racist to let those racist people into our country? If they weren't racist when they got here, is it racist to acknowledge that their attitudes were legitimately acquired? A chicken & egg conundrum for sure.

But, Kaz may stop saying bad words which the important thing, and we can all feel more comfortable.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:22 pm

DrDonkeyLove wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
syaigh wrote:Well, aside from the fact that I think Kaz is a black social worker . . . (ruminate on that scenario)
Heh. Some of the most racist people I've ever met are immigrants who run small stores in the ghetto.
Is it racist to let those racist people into our country? If they weren't racist when they got here, is it racist to acknowledge that their attitudes were legitimately acquired? A chicken & egg conundrum for sure.

But, Kaz may stop saying bad words which the important thing, and we can all feel more comfortable.

'Tis interesting how much of this hand wringing comes from those who choose to live in Caucasian Acres.

DARTH · Post by **DARTH** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 5:44 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:There are those who are Offensive and there are those who are Offended. I will never side with the "offended classes" because theirs is the way of simpering putrid weakness. If that means tolerating tremendously un-nieghborly behavior, so fucking be it.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:28 pm

For those who think the distinction is a racist invention of the white man.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_lD-2Kf0r0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfpf8bV_9Y8[/youtube]

tough old man · Post by **tough old man** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:55 pm

Fuck, Im tired of this. Is it racist to point out a nigger is acting like a nigger, or a jew is acting like a jew? Or is it just calling people out on the fucked up shit they do? Theres a lot of dumb ass white fucktards out there and I have no issue calling that as I see it either.

If its considered racist so be it. But dont try and cover up peoples actions by soft selling them. Thats stupid.

JDub · Post by **JDub** » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:17 pm

tough old man wrote:Fuck, Im tired of this. Is it racist to point out a nigger is acting like a nigger, or a jew is acting like a jew? Or is it just calling people out on the fucked up shit they do? Theres a lot of dumb ass white fucktards out there and I have no issue calling that as I see it either.

If its considered racist so be it. But dont try and cover up peoples actions by soft selling them. Thats stupid.

Sums it up nicely IMO.

milosz · Post by **milosz** » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:47 am

tough old man wrote:Fuck, Im tired of this. Is it racist to point out a nigger is acting like a nigger, or a jew is acting like a jew? Or is it just calling people out on the fucked up shit they do? Theres a lot of dumb ass white fucktards out there and I have no issue calling that as I see it either.

Yes, but what do you call them? Which term encompasses the entire ethnic spectrum of whiteness in one convenient epithet?

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