Blaidd Drwg wrote:It was pretty overblown...like some Columbine shooting spree when it was a classic love triangle plus bystander fuck fest. I'm guessing the proximity to DC takes the shrill up a couple octaves..
Turns out the local cops regularly drill with the mall management on attacks at the mall, and come in at 1:00 AM to run scenarios, so they were prepped and had a plan.
I'm sure their ultimate fear was a Nairobi-type attack, i.e., the worst possible case. There are people out there thinking about how to pull that sort of thing off.
Yep, heard the HowCo police chief talk about that this a.m. on the radio. There's a couple hundred stores there, he said, so they have the mall divided up into zones. The cops didn't need to know exactly where the skate store was, just that it was in the red zone for the initial response, then get details when they get set up. The mall's big enough that kind of thing matters.
Also said stores are trained to close their gates if something happens and get everyone into the back and lock the doors, like JimZipCode describes. I used to be on the safety committee at work and had a hand in designing our evac procedure. One reporter talked about trying to talk to StarBuck's employees when they were leaving the mall but none would talk to him until the reached their rally point.
"The reason that 'guru' is such a popular word is because 'charlatan' is so hard to spell."
@GSElevator: Can we please stop calling them hipsters and go back to calling them pussies?
Blood eagles solve everything.
Glad you mother is OK, and has such a good attitude about it all.
Batboy2/75 wrote:
Fucking bring out the clowns time. just what the hell does he need with all that shit? Your tax dollars at work; so wantabee fags can play soldier.
I'll go on record that most SWAT officers are Delta DEVGRU Spec ops wantabee that never had the stones to do the real thing in the military.
I don't know if statistically that is the case, but anecdotally we had two SWAT (SRT) from Detroit city training in the dojo regularly. One was a veteran from the Army and the other was a Marine. The latter has since resigned and does special contracts in Brazil. The third SWAT person I know personally was in Marine boot when he had some kind of asthma thing come on him, and got discharged.
j-cubed wrote:Glad you mother is OK, and has such a good attitude about it all.
Batboy2/75 wrote:
Fucking bring out the clowns time. just what the hell does he need with all that shit? Your tax dollars at work; so wantabee fags can play soldier.
I'll go on record that most SWAT officers are Delta DEVGRU Spec ops wantabee that never had the stones to do the real thing in the military.
I don't know if statistically that is the case, but anecdotally we had two SWAT (SRT) from Detroit city training in the dojo regularly. One was a veteran from the Army and the other was a Marine. The latter has since resigned and does special contracts in Brazil. The third SWAT person I know personally was in Marine boot when he had some kind of asthma thing come on him, and got discharged.
Most of our guys are ex-military as well.
Kazuya Mishima wrote:they can pry the bacon from my cold dead hand.
j-cubed wrote:Glad you mother is OK, and has such a good attitude about it all.
Batboy2/75 wrote:
Fucking bring out the clowns time. just what the hell does he need with all that shit? Your tax dollars at work; so wantabee fags can play soldier.
I'll go on record that most SWAT officers are Delta DEVGRU Spec ops wantabee that never had the stones to do the real thing in the military.
I don't know if statistically that is the case, but anecdotally we had two SWAT (SRT) from Detroit city training in the dojo regularly. One was a veteran from the Army and the other was a Marine. The latter has since resigned and does special contracts in Brazil. The third SWAT person I know personally was in Marine boot when he had some kind of asthma thing come on him, and got discharged.
Most of our guys are ex-military as well.
Not around here. Sadly they are exactly as Bats describes. Pretty boys with no military experience more interested in looking cool in their gear and showing off their sweet pin/window sticker. Anyone with any kind of military experience avoids joining up like its the fucking plague and the few that try out and make it end up resigning from the team once they realize how they are surrounded by faggots that will more than likely get them killed in a real call out. I tried out once. I smoked their tryout, had army medic/cav scout and civilian emt training, and I got passed over for one of their good old boy buddies. Those faggots came calling after my first officer involved shooting and I told them to go fuck themselves. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
j-cubed wrote:Glad you mother is OK, and has such a good attitude about it all.
Batboy2/75 wrote:
Fucking bring out the clowns time. just what the hell does he need with all that shit? Your tax dollars at work; so wantabee fags can play soldier.
I'll go on record that most SWAT officers are Delta DEVGRU Spec ops wantabee that never had the stones to do the real thing in the military.
I don't know if statistically that is the case, but anecdotally we had two SWAT (SRT) from Detroit city training in the dojo regularly. One was a veteran from the Army and the other was a Marine. The latter has since resigned and does special contracts in Brazil. The third SWAT person I know personally was in Marine boot when he had some kind of asthma thing come on him, and got discharged.
Most of our guys are ex-military as well.
LOL, Ex-military what?
Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of the free man from the slave.
j-cubed wrote:Glad you mother is OK, and has such a good attitude about it all.
Batboy2/75 wrote:
Fucking bring out the clowns time. just what the hell does he need with all that shit? Your tax dollars at work; so wantabee fags can play soldier.
I'll go on record that most SWAT officers are Delta DEVGRU Spec ops wantabee that never had the stones to do the real thing in the military.
I don't know if statistically that is the case, but anecdotally we had two SWAT (SRT) from Detroit city training in the dojo regularly. One was a veteran from the Army and the other was a Marine. The latter has since resigned and does special contracts in Brazil. The third SWAT person I know personally was in Marine boot when he had some kind of asthma thing come on him, and got discharged.
Most of our guys are ex-military as well.
LOL, Ex-military what?
On the west squad off the top of my head, two army snipers, couple air force guys (no idea what they did), one former corpsman, and three or four Marines, all I believe of the pog flavor. But a lot of the cops around here were in the military at some point (and it's only becoming more prevalent) so that's what they pull from.
Kazuya Mishima wrote:they can pry the bacon from my cold dead hand.
Without knowing their MOS your anecdotal evidence is worthless. Most SWAT guys are a product of the good old boy system who usually did squat in the military or didn't serve.
Most SWAT teams are a solution desperately looking for a problem.
BTW- what I posted was a sweeping generality. Your mileage my vary in your local, but overall my position is correct. Most SWAT members are nothing more than Delta DEVGRU wantabees that spend most of their days wasting the tax payers dollars and terrorizing the local citizenry.
Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of the free man from the slave.
Because you have to be active or former military to vote, have an opinion, or get any job. If you didn't serve you are worthless at any and every thing. If you were special ops you can beat up anyone, unless they were special ops. In that case it would be a draw.
T200 wrote:Drinking is for posers until you are drinking Everclear from a an old freebase kit you found in the park.
JDub wrote:Because you have to be active or former military to vote, have an opinion, or get any job. If you didn't serve you are worthless at any and every thing. If you were special ops you can beat up anyone, unless they were special ops. In that case it would be a draw.
Go cry in the corner fag.
Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of the free man from the slave.
JDub wrote:No tears here. I'm not Special Ops, SWAT, or police. Couldn't care less about any of them. It's hilarious how much of a badass you think you are.
It's hilarious how much you care.
Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of the free man from the slave.
Good old boys wasting time and money on SWAT is less problematic than the mindset that a four year bid in the military is the proper starting path to becoming a pig (SWAT or no). That's the kind of shit that trickles down to the events documented in the Officer Friendly thread.
milosz wrote:Good old boys wasting time and money on SWAT is less problematic than the mindset that a four year bid in the military is the proper starting path to becoming a pig (SWAT or no). That's the kind of shit that trickles down to the events documented in the Officer Friendly thread.
Yes.
T200 wrote:Drinking is for posers until you are drinking Everclear from a an old freebase kit you found in the park.
Police responding to calls of gunfire in a shopping mall is an obvious example of the nanny state that everybody lives in and a waste of taxpayer money. If everybody had been armed, they could have started shooting in all directions and taken care of the problem.
WildGorillaMan wrote:Enthusiasm combined with no skill whatsoever can sometimes carry the day.
Phaedrus wrote:Police responding to calls of gunfire in a shopping mall is an obvious example of the nanny state that everybody lives in and a waste of taxpayer money. If everybody had been armed, they could have started shooting in all directions and taken care of the problem.
Since we have such a problem with average citizens turning public shootings into the Gunfight At The OK Mallcorall, does this sound OK for proper procedure in a situation like this?
1)Victim: Accept being murdered as peacefully and graciously as possible. Remember, you only get one chance to make a last impression.
2) Escape or concealment until rescued by proper authorities.
If #2 doesn't work, see#1. Do not defend yourself, someone might get hurt.
JDub wrote:I'm sorry that the guys at the local pd ran a train on your wife.
Whatever helps you get out of bed in the morning.
We'll handle your recycling of 5th grade put downs some other time.
Says the mature one who calls people fag and cunt and brags about being a real life GI Joe
You actual think I was calling for maturity idiot? Try being creative you cock holster.
Let's get to the root of your issue. I'm better than you and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. You missed your chance. I chose to join Spec Ops and you chose to blow truck drivers on the interstate.
Arms are the only true badge of liberty. The possession of arms is the distinction of the free man from the slave.
JDub wrote:I'm sorry that the guys at the local pd ran a train on your wife.
Whatever helps you get out of bed in the morning.
We'll handle your recycling of 5th grade put downs some other time.
Says the mature one who calls people fag and cunt and brags about being a real life GI Joe
You actual think I was calling for maturity idiot? Try being creative you cock holster.
Let's get to the root of your issue. I'm better than you and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. You missed your chance. I chose to join Spec Ops and you chose to blow truck drivers on the interstate.
Lol you prove my points about you for me. Pretentious self important cunt. You chose to take orders and spend all your time with a bunch of swinging dicks. I chose to go to school, drink a lot, and fuck women. Congrats on your choice faggot.
T200 wrote:Drinking is for posers until you are drinking Everclear from a an old freebase kit you found in the park.
