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OCG wrote:Because then someone has to pull the trigger.

My question is, why can't they just use a shitload of morphine?

Bud Charniga's gaping asshole wrote:

OCG wrote:Because then someone has to pull the trigger.

My question is, why can't they just use a shitload of morphine?

Part of the current penalogical trend: execution is supposed to be (a) fast (so ODing on opiates is out) and (b) bloodless (so no firing squad, guillotine, etc.)

The fast one is due in part to a desire to avoid death-by-torture (thought I agree that going out on a needle and a spoon sounds a lot nicer than a botched lethal injection, as here). The bloodless one is due mostly to a desire to protect the executioners and witnesses from icky thoughts.

Dr. Agkistrodon wrote:My question is-

Why do we even bother with bullshit like lethal injection, or the electric chair, to begin with?

Why can't we just use a good old fashioned firing squad?

Or a guillotine?

Batboy2/75 wrote:

Dr. Agkistrodon wrote:My question is-

Why do we even bother with bullshit like lethal injection, or the electric chair, to begin with?

Why can't we just use a good old fashioned firing squad?

Or a guillotine?

Because the pussies in society don't want to see the sausage being made.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:IGX has a long history of giving a fuck about decades of jurisprudence when it comes to 3 or 4 of the Amendments....the 8th, not so much. There's also near universal distrust of the State...except in matters of conviction and execution of "the bad people". It's a convenient switch to flip.

There are probably dozens of ways to humanly kill a man, none of which have been settled in court. If due process seems like excessive hand wringing to you, perhaps you'd be more comfortable under Sharia law.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:IGX has a long history of giving a fuck about decades of jurisprudence when it comes to 3 or 4 of the Amendments....the 8th, not so much. There's also near universal distrust of the State...except in matters of conviction and execution of "the bad people". It's a convenient switch to flip. There are probably dozens of ways to humanly kill a man, none of which have been settled in court. If due process seems like excessive hand wringing to you, perhaps you'd be more comfortable under Sharia law.

Blaidd Drwg wrote:IGX has a long history of giving a fuck about decades of jurisprudence when it comes to 3 or 4 of the Amendments....the 8th, not so much. There's also near universal distrust of the State...except in matters of conviction and execution of "the bad people". It's a convenient switch to flip.

There are probably dozens of ways to humanly kill a man, none of which have been settled in court. If due process seems like excessive hand wringing to you, perhaps you'd be more comfortable under Sharia law.

Jonny Canuck wrote:

Blaidd Drwg wrote:IGX has a long history of giving a fuck about decades of jurisprudence when it comes to 3 or 4 of the Amendments....the 8th, not so much. There's also near universal distrust of the State...except in matters of conviction and execution of "the bad people". It's a convenient switch to flip. There are probably dozens of ways to humanly kill a man, none of which have been settled in court. If due process seems like excessive hand wringing to you, perhaps you'd be more comfortable under Sharia law.

Shut your mouth. You are disrupting the "Obama is coming for my guns" circlejerk.

What pattern of behavior supposedly aroused the suspicions of a federal government that is ignorant of how small businesses function? Terry and Sandy regularly make deposits of less than $10,000 in the bank across the street. Federal law, aimed primarily at money laundering by drug dealers, requires banks to report cash deposits of more than $10,000. It also makes it illegal to “structure” deposits to evade such reporting.

Because 35 percent of Schott’s Supermarket’s receipts are in cash, Terry and Sandy make frequent trips to the bank to avoid tempting actual criminals by having large sums at the store. Besides, their insurance policy covers no cash loss in excess of $10,000.

In 2010 and 2012, IRS agents visited the store and examined Terry’s and Sandy’s conduct. In 2012, the IRS notified them that it identified “no violations” of banking laws. But on Jan. 22, 2013, Terry and Sandy discovered that the IRS had obtained a secret warrant and emptied the store’s bank account. Sandy says that if the IRS had acted “the day before, there would have been only about $2,000 in the account.” Should we trust that today’s IRS was just lucky in its timing?

The IRS used “civil forfeiture,” the power to seize property suspected of being produced by, or involved with, crime. The IRS could have dispelled its suspicions of Terry and Sandy, if it actually had any, by simply asking them about the reasons — prudence, and the insurance limit — for their banking practices. It had, however, a reason not to ask obvious questions before proceeding.

The civil forfeiture law — if something so devoid of due process can be dignified as law — is an incentive for perverse behavior: Predatory government agencies get to pocket the proceeds from property they seize from Americans without even charging them with, let alone convicting them of, crimes. Criminals are treated better than this because they lose the fruits of their criminality only after being convicted.

DrDonkeyLove wrote: Nay nay, don't stop the "(insert tyrant's name here) is coming for my guns circle jerk". Add additional circle jerks. I confess that I didn't know that something that outrages me was an 8th amendment issue - Civil Forfeiture abuse The Google machine will amply shows what a money generating scam it is. George Will & Washington Post in an article I read earlier this week share IRS fun and games w/an immigrant grocer. Add'l sources Super Lib New Yorker: Local gov't get stealy w/the poor. ACLU

johno wrote:Where is the guarantee that an execution be pain free?

I mildly oppose capital punishment on other grounds. But, to paraphrase Scalia, no one is assured a painless death.

Anon wrote:Knock them out with some simple drug add a pinch of muscle relaxer and put them in a deep freezer.
I see freezing to death as pretty peaceful, as long as you lack awareness during the big cool down.
Easy clean up, no sausage making here, probably pretty boring to watch.