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What a dumb motherfucker.

DARTH wrote:What a dumb motherfucker.

+++5Million.


Soccer players are some of the best conditioned skill athletes in all of sport and they are totally optimized physically for the game as it is played today (flopping included)

The biggest physical quality lacking in football is short-term acceleration. Why is acceleration so poor in football?

Wait, what?

I like how he uses Ronaldo as his poster boy for what a soccer player "should" look like. I note that he didn't use a picture of, say, Messi, who looks like a skinny schlub:

well, their heads are shaved like pussies

That guy is an idiot.

Poliquin is off his rocker. Soccer S&C guys might be 20 years ahead of the US for the most part. Take Mladen Jovanovic for instance, he does work with soccer players and uses extensive data acquistion methods to keep peak condition and monitor injury status.

http://complementarytraining.net/

Are soccer players as juiced/doped as other sports?

your question sent me googling.

fifa adopted biological profiling last year, and there is this recent report:

After Costa Rica sealed its surprise place in the knockout stage with a 1-0 win over Italy, seven Los Ticos players were called in for a doping test — the usual two as required of each team after every match, plus five more. FIFA said the additional five players were called in because they were among the nine percent of World Cup participants who had not completed their required pre-tournament testing.

They need more fish oil.

Can't remember who the interview was with, or where it was published, but I remember an American S&C guy who basically said that European soccer clubs were way ahead of Americans with their S&C practices.

Two things that I still remember:
1) They did a better job of planning training, so players were at their peak ability more often than most team athletes here.

2) They did a better job of screening players returning from injury and correcting imbalances, poor movement patterns etc.

Michael Bradley ran over 7 miles against Portugal. Even counting the last minute mess-up (not totally his fault, IMO), a pretty strong aerobic system is needed for that kind of effort.

wow, Poloquin is way off base here

Plus nice anecdotal job of using one of the most notorious partiers in soccer, Rooney, to prove a point

Listening to Americans discussing "soccer" makes me want to self harm.

Beer Jew wrote:Listening to Americans discussing "soccer" makes me want to self harm.

No-one is stopping you. Do it.

Beer Jew wrote:Listening to Americans discussing "soccer" makes me want to self harm.

Because we're still in and you're not?

If you are in the top X % of any sport, don't you, by definition, have perfect strength and conditioning?

"S&C" as an independent quality seems like a definition made just to advance the training industry

Jay wrote:Plus nice anecdotal job of using one of the most notorious partiers in soccer, Rooney, to prove a point

Fuck, I'm having a hard time letting this go. Jay's absolutely right, Rooney gets a lot of flack for his lack of discipline.

And the thing is, Rooney's still been a world-class player for 10+ years. Saying that he's not as good as Ronaldo, one of the two or three best players in the world, a generational talent, well, so what? That's like saying "that Clyde Drexler, he was no Michael Jordan." It's true, but it misses the point. And if you look at Ronaldo play, it's not his abzzzz that make him a great player.

Shit, pretty much the one thing that everyone will say about the American side is that their conditioning is top notch. They're one of the, if not the, strongest, best-conditioned teams in the tournament. The reason that they're not picked to go very far is that they lack players with a whole lot of creativity or touch. So it might intuit well that conditioning, while important, isn't the most important thing. Poliquin's just fucking trolling with this shit.

Then again, I'm a water type, so what the fuck do I know

Rooney is a superb player who has played better than people who had "superior" conditioning.

Bob Wildes wrote:

Beer Jew wrote:Listening to Americans discussing "soccer" makes me want to self harm.

No-one is stopping you. Do it.

:snigger

plus he keeps talking about power as if its all they have to worry about..

they run 5-8 miles a fucking game... they need a balance of both.

he's fucking wrong as fuck here

T>1200 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:

Beer Jew wrote:Listening to Americans discussing "soccer" makes me want to self harm.

No-one is stopping you. Do it.

:snigger