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I normally don't read Salon.com. It's one of those websites on my "Avoid," list, up there with Huffington Post and the like. But recently a friend of mine who's aware of my interest in cannabis sent me the link, copied below. It's an interesting article, insofar as today's changing times are concerned.

I never thought of marijuana as a "drug," in the same way you'd classify heroin, cocaine, methamphetamine, et-al as "drugs." For me, cannabis was never a means of escape at all. Rather, it was more of a facilitator of organized, relaxed thought and analysis, and a means of safely, gently rebooting my mind. Those are the words which best describe the experiences I've had, with cannabis. It was interesting to see some of my observations echoed here.

A pretty good read.

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/08/science ... _get_high/
Marijuana is not magic. Marijuana (botanical name, cannabis) affects the human body because the plant-based cannabinoids in marijuana, once ingested, can “plug into” the cannabinoid receptors that are used by the cannabinoids made by our own bodies.
It’s not just people that have cannabinoid systems. All mammals have them. All creatures do, except bugs. Although cannabinoid systems can utilize the plant-based cannabinoids in marijuana, the cultivation and preservation of cannabinoid systems by the evolutionary process has nothing to do with pot. The cannabinoid receptor appeared on the planet at least 550 million years before marijuana.
Evolution has selected for cannabinoid systems, meaning once they emerged, they were retained, and broadly adopted. A cannabinoid system must make living here on this planet easier, or even possible, for those who have them. That’s why life cultivates and retains certain mutations, such as fins, eyes or bigger brains. They’re useful, or at least once were. Why would the cannabinoid system be any different?
The cannabinoid system seems at least in part to be associated with the capacity to “shift,” i.e., change, dislodge stagnancies and interrupt patterns (“forget”). Memory is not just an act of the mind. The body has memory, too. Marijuana affects “memory by way of the receptors in the limbic system’s hippocampus, which “gates” information during memory consolidation.”
According to Judith Horstman in “The Scientific American Brave New Brain,” learning is a product of memory formation. Memories are created “when messages are sent across the tiny gaps between neurons called synapses… A memory is held in the connections made by this network and firmly established when a network of synapses is strengthened… Over time, this net of memories can be strengthened further, weakened, or broken, depending on your brain chemistry, your genes, and your actions.”
So, these networks can be viewed as grooves that get dug and create underlying structure. Information gets trained to the tracks. So what if the well-dug groove becomes maladaptive, or even detrimental to survival? What if the dug groove was grounded in misinformation? What if the underlying structure distorts the information running through it? How do you realize it? (How does the body realize it?) How do you know to jump the tracks? And if you do jump them, jump them into what?
Unlearning, or pattern breaking, under certain circumstances is critical to the ability of life itself to persist. It may be equally important in organisms, organizations and even software to have a mechanism for pattern interruption when changes in the environment make a formerly useful pattern destructive. The interruption serves as a reset button and causes the system to reassess and aim for optimizing in current reality as opposed to maintaining historical patterns.

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Rather, it was more of a facilitator of organized, relaxed thought and analysis, and a means of safely, gently rebooting my mind.
This generally isn't what I associate with the more enthusiastic pot smokers I know. What negative side effects do you experience?
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Rather, it was more of a facilitator of organized, relaxed thought and analysis, and a means of safely, gently rebooting my mind.
This generally isn't what I associate with the more enthusiastic pot smokers I know. What negative side effects do you experience?
The only negative thing I have ever noticed was that in some cases the generalized anxiety that I deal with was heightened. HOWEVER, this depends upon two factors:

1st. And most importantly- my mindset. If I have anxiety and use cannabis "to make it go away," the anxiety could get worse

2nd. The type of cannabis used. Sativa, which has more THC than CBD can make my anxiety worse. Indica, which has the opposite ratio, takes me from an already calm state, to an even calmer one, wherein I can "slow down" my near-constant tornado of thoughts, and pick the ones I'd like to think actively about.

So for me, if I am to use cannabis, I have to:

1. make sure I have taken care of myself, had a good day, I'm calm, feeling good, etc.

2. and I have to make sure I'm using an Indica dominant strain.


This is difficult though because it's hard to get what you're looking for when it isn't legal. It was easier when I was living in Northern VA, in college.

It'd be nice if it was more accessible. Legalized and decriminalized in all states.

And I think that the plant merits more study. A lot more.

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And let's point out one other thing-

Due to illegality and availability- for the past few years I have spent more time trying to "calm my mind down," and "reboot it" myself, via mindfulness and meditation. And in these cases, I have found that the effort of doing it myself, without chemical enhancement, has been better and more rewarding.


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Nice read. Until it became legal in WA, I had pretty much disregarded it as a useful thing. Now my MIL and her BF are using it to help sleep. Legalization has come with huge benefits across the board in getting people to be rational and think of medicines as tools, not ogres
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Nice read. Until it became legal in WA, I had pretty much disregarded it as a useful thing. Now my MIL and her BF are using it to help sleep. Legalization has come with huge benefits across the board in getting people to be rational and think of medicines as tools, not ogres
I agree with this 100%. Absolutely.

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Dr. Agkistrodon wrote:
Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Rather, it was more of a facilitator of organized, relaxed thought and analysis, and a means of safely, gently rebooting my mind.
This generally isn't what I associate with the more enthusiastic pot smokers I know. What negative side effects do you experience?
The only negative thing I have ever noticed was that in some cases the generalized anxiety that I deal with was heightened. HOWEVER, this depends upon two factors:

1st. And most importantly- my mindset. If I have anxiety and use cannabis "to make it go away," the anxiety could get worse

2nd. The type of cannabis used. Sativa, which has more THC than CBD can make my anxiety worse. Indica, which has the opposite ratio, takes me from an already calm state, to an even calmer one, wherein I can "slow down" my near-constant tornado of thoughts, and pick the ones I'd like to think actively about.

So for me, if I am to use cannabis, I have to:

1. make sure I have taken care of myself, had a good day, I'm calm, feeling good, etc.

2. and I have to make sure I'm using an Indica dominant strain.


This is difficult though because it's hard to get what you're looking for when it isn't legal. It was easier when I was living in Northern VA, in college.

It'd be nice if it was more accessible. Legalized and decriminalized in all states.

And I think that the plant merits more study. A lot more.
Same here, though my issue with sativa is less anxiety and more general flights of ideas and basic mania. It can be useful but I have to have myself set up for success in terms of preplanning anything productive.

Indica strains have always been a rather nice compliment to meditation and also has served as a balancer during bouts of normal mania.

As far as legality goes, with my career path I've pretty much given it up and use basic mindfulness exercises and meditation work to get through it.

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Dunn wrote:Indica strains have always been a rather nice compliment to meditation and also has served as a balancer during bouts of normal mania.

As far as legality goes, with my career path I've pretty much given it up and use basic mindfulness exercises and meditation work to get through it.

Indica has always been a better fit for me for that same reason.

As to a sober mindfulness and meditation practice, it is my feeling that for consciousness expansion and well being, that is the best way to go. And you'll never have to worry about losing your job because meditation won't make you piss dirty. So it's a win-win in that regard.

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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Nice read. Until it became legal in WA, I had pretty much disregarded it as a useful thing. Now my MIL and her BF are using it to help sleep. Legalization has come with huge benefits across the board in getting people to be rational and think of medicines as tools, not ogres

No sane reason for it to be illegal.

And it being legal makes it easier for people to get the right kind of pot for them.

Here where it is still ilegal, you pretty much have Dirtweed, Commercial and Kind Bud, not much more distinction than that unless you are deeply connected or growing the stuff.

The stuff that makes my body feel good and lets my mind roll while putting me in a good mood is the best, many level of weed can do this from commercial to kind but sometimes I have got weed that would sometimes make me nervious or start thinking about negative shit.

I had some real dank hydro when I was 20 that just brought out horrid thoughts in my mind and paranoia. I had $200 bucks of the shit left but it so freaked me out I gave it to a buddy.

The other thing about legalising it is that you can more easily get more and more away from smoking it and using vaporisers and e-cigs, as well as liquid and baked goods. As an astmatic, by biggest issue with weed, especially the real good shit is it messes my lungs up and as I get older, I think more about cancer, especially after having an MRI to check on a nodule in my lungs. I want to be able to sit in my living room, and hit a vape, take some drops or eat a potbar. and not have to hide in the backroom with a bong like some fucking junkie or not be able to take it when I wish because of my lungs.

If all Beer drinking was replaced with pot, we'd be WAY better off in this country. I've never been attacked by a pothead who was stoned, but I have fought more drunks than I can count in my life and alcohol is the real gateway drug.

Have a cousin who got into crack in the late 80s and he'd get rehabbed, be doing good even when smoking pot a few times a day but as soon as he started to drink again, crack was right around the corner.

I have a very close person in my life who used to be addicted to Meth. She kicked that shit with her own willpower. She has not done it in 15 years now, but she smokes pot everyday, but does not drink except 1-3 times a year. All her old friends though have had back and forth struggles with Meth and they drink.


I have always said and still believe that it would be a p[osative thing to make weed legal, as long as you society was hard core on the negatives. Sell to kids? The book should be thrown at you. Steal to get money for your drugs? Well, homeowners should have complete dominion and should be able to kill any intruder, without question. Shit do that and I say legalise and tax it all.




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I know a dozen Iraqis that smoke pot

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The smoking issue is another thing that started to bug me as I got older... Especially now that I've been working so hard on getting in better shape.

It's odd, too, the drinking issue. I was drinking way too much booze (again), and aside from helping me gain a shit load if adipose weight, I began worrying about damaging my liver. So I pulled-back. Cut down. Stopped drinking my face off every day.

I never worried about my lungs or my liver when I was a kid.

Then I turned 35 and decided that maybe I might have been acting like a jackass.

Legal weed candy would be awesome. Once or twice a week, sit on the couch, eat a candy bar and listen to music. Without worry that I was using the wrong stuff or that I'd get busted. It'd be awesome.

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I am imagining that Texas will be the last state in the nation to legalize it medically, mostly because there is too much money in keeping it repressed. Despite the reputation Texas has for disliking the federal government's initiatives, for every federal initiative that Texas declines to participate in, there are 2-5 'local' initiatives that result in someone pocketing a whole bunch of money and do the same thing as the federal initiative, only less efficiently and serving less taxpayers. On top of that, despite there being no state income tax, property taxes are significantly higher than anyplace else I've lived, and there are also a number of fees you have to pay to drive a car around. The police machine is pretty massive too.

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Of all the states I've lived in, Texas is the most hypocritical. A great facade.

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Texas can be pretty ass-backwards in a whole lot of ways.

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Houston is a vortex of suck.

Don't get me wrong, there is a fuck ton of shit I like here, and it's a much higher grade of suck than the stagnant cesspool of Saginaw, Michigan, and if you want to be employed, move to Houston...and someone told me South Dakota by the shale oil fields is booming too.

10K people a month moving here.

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There will always be things we like, and things that suck, where we live. It's the same in good old Western Pennsyltuckey where I live. There's many things I like a lot about living here, and many things that suck. I try to deal with the suck and appreciate the things I like more. It's a tricky balance.

I will say that I like the cops here a lot better than the ones in NoVA.

And it'd be nice if we could have legal weed here at some point before I turn 70.

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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Rather, it was more of a facilitator of organized, relaxed thought and analysis, and a means of safely, gently rebooting my mind.
This generally isn't what I associate with the more enthusiastic pot smokers I know. What negative side effects do you experience?
If you asked the users, they would agree with the statement.
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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Houston is a vortex of suck.

...and someone told me South Dakota by the shale oil fields is booming too.

10K people a month moving here.
North Dakota. The Bakken. Small towns over run with workers, infrastructure failing, guys sleeping in their trucks. Lotta work out there.
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I do like fucking while stoned

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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:I do like fucking while stoned

It's so odd....I've never done that.

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This is a nice book about the prohibition of all kinds of drugs:

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Not surprisingly, the argument against the drugs is similar to that against alcohol in the 1920-1230s, as well as smoking some hundred years earlier.
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