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...let's import some Ebola virus-infected folks into the USA. After all, it's only extremely contagious, with a 60-90% mortality rate.

What could go wrong?

Yeah lets just ignore the problem I'm sure it will go away.

BURN THE WITCH!

In all seriousness, the known case(s) will be handled with the utmost care and precautions.
I worry more about what diseases illegal immigrants could eventually bring into this country.

Who cares. They'll vote for more government!

I'm sure the government will handle the Ebola cases in the same efficient and competent manner they handle all government programs.

I will say though that having a live, in vivos strain of ebola here in the U.S. for study will make for a lot of money when a vaccine is generated.

T>1200 wrote:I will say though that having a live, in vivos strain of ebola here in the U.S. for study will make for a lot of money when a vaccine is generated.

It may generate publicly funded research, but drug companies have no financial reason to be interested.

j-cubed wrote:In all seriousness, the known case(s) will be handled with the utmost care and precautions.
I worry more about what diseases illegal immigrants could eventually bring into this country.

I'm sure the infected doctor and nurse used the utmost care & precaution when they contracted Ebola. That shakes my faith in the We've-got-it-contained Crowd.

As far as risks go, it's not either/or. It's both/and. Meaning the risks are additive. To reduce those risks, we should exclude all known & likely sources of infection.

johno wrote:

j-cubed wrote:In all seriousness, the known case(s) will be handled with the utmost care and precautions.
I worry more about what diseases illegal immigrants could eventually bring into this country.

I'm sure the infected doctor and nurse used the utmost care & precaution when they contracted Ebola.

I am sure they didn't, by 1st world standards. A risk they took working over there.

Let's be honest...we could stand to lighten the load around this place by a couple hundred million.
I say bring it on.

ButterCupPowerRanch wrote:lighten the load around this place by a couple hundred million.
I say bring it on.

Shocking. Everyone is precious in God's eyes.

Ummm... there's an African guy in the New York hospital presenting with ebola symptoms. Came from over there to here publicly.

Leave the infected in third-world countries which I'm sure are suited to deal with the issue.

Yeah, why in the world would you want to bring the virus to the country with the most highest-level security labs to contain and study it? IMO, many people need to broaden their news sources.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/healt ... egion&_r=0
What TOM was talking about.
The CDC isn't perfect, but Ebola is coming. Better that we bring sick Americans home for the best possible care and have a chance to study it and better understand how to handle it.

Is Ebola taking requests?

Seeahill had ebola once. Took him several weeks/months to fully recover. All from a fucking mosquito. And how easy to cure now with just simple rehydration ratios.

Is the mid-low bar, medium-wide stance, elbows pointing backward squat a "Rip" squat? I see tons of CFers squatting like that, and I have no idea where they got that form from.

Brutal Bajan wrote:Is the mid-low bar, medium-wide stance, elbows pointing backward squat a "Rip" squat? I see tons of CFers squatting like that, and I have no idea where they got that form from.

They all have Ebola

nafod wrote:

Brutal Bajan wrote:Is the mid-low bar, medium-wide stance, elbows pointing backward squat a "Rip" squat? I see tons of CFers squatting like that, and I have no idea where they got that form from.

They all have Ebola

Or they gave up sugar.

johno wrote:...let's import some Ebola virus-infected folks into the USA. After all, it's only extremely contagious, with a 60-90% mortality rate.

It's not extremely contagious. It spreads through direct physical contact with the bodily fluids (or corpse) of a sick person. It spreads as much as it does because it spreads in Africa, and it burns out because it kills faster than it spreads even in Africa.

buckethead wrote:Seeahill had ebola once. Took him several weeks/months to fully recover. All from a fucking mosquito. And how easy to cure now with just simple rehydration ratios.

It was malaria.

Meanwhile:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/he ... story.html

A Cambridge-based biotech company that has developed an experimental treatment for the Ebola virus is urging federal officials to consider allowing the unproven medication to be used on patients who have been infected in Africa’s deadly outbreak and brought to the United States for treatment.

Sarepta Therapeutics says it has enough doses of its injectible drug — AVI-7537 — to treat about two dozen patients within a week and could ramp up a supply for another 100 patients within a few months.

Such a move would be highly risky, but in the case of such a dangerous disease, the risks could be worth it in the eyes of some patients and their doctors. A different experimental drug, made by a San Diego company, has been given to two infected American relief workers who were flown to Atlanta for treatment.

The Sarepta treatment has been tested in Ebola-infected rhesus monkeys, with a cure rate of 60 to 80 percent, the company said. It has also been tested in healthy human volunteers for safety, but thus far, it has never been tried in a human infected with Ebola.

Here's CNN describing how the two aid workers were treated with the Mapp Biopharma drug:

The ZMapp vials reached the hospital in Liberia where Brantly and Writebol were being treated Thursday morning. Doctors were instructed to allow the vials to thaw naturally without any additional heat. It was expected that it would be eight to 10 hours before the medicine could be given, according to a source familiar with the process.
Brantly asked that Writebol be given the first dose because he was younger and he thought he had a better chance of fighting it, and she agreed. However, as the first vial was still thawing, Brantley's condition took a sudden turn for the worse.

Brantly began to deteriorate and developed labored breathing. He told his doctors, "I am going to die," according to a source with firsthand knowledge of the situation.

Knowing his dose was still frozen, Brantly asked if he could have Writebol's now-thawed medication. It was brought to his room and administered through an IV. Within an hour of receiving the medication, Brantly's condition was nearly reversed. His breathing improved; the rash over his trunk faded away. One of his doctors described the events as "miraculous."

By the next morning, Brantly was able to take a shower on his own before getting on a specially designed Gulfstream air ambulance jet to be evacuated to the United States.

Writebol also received a vial of the medication. Her response was not as remarkable, according to sources familiar with the treatment. However, doctors on Sunday administered Writebol a second dose of the medication, which resulted in significant improvement. She was stable enough to be evacuated back to the United States and is expected to arrive before noon Tuesday.

Someone explain the risk/benefit ratio for deliberately importing the disease.
I see it as 313,000,000 to 2.
That some other diseased person might sneak in is a red herring. We should strive to exclude him too.

If bringing in infected patients is such a medical research boon, why wait for Americans to get sick?