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Found this MO statute quoted:
A law enforcement officer in effecting an arrest or in preventing an escape from custody is justified in using deadly force only(1) When such is authorized under other sections of this chapter; or(2) When he reasonably believes that such use of deadly force is immediately necessary to effect the arrest and also reasonably believes that the person to be arrested(a) Has committed or attempted to commit a felony; or(b) Is attempting to escape by use of a deadly weapon; or(c) May otherwise endanger life or inflict serious physical injury unless arrested without delay.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volo ... nal-trial/
Pretty good article overall, discussing the legal side at a state and federal level. To my non-lawyer mind, this statute seems overly broad.
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The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown.

This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store.Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the District Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08 ... ike-brown/

If true, this incident will probably
go the way of the Martin/Zimmerman kerfuffle.
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So....justifiable shooting and idiots destroying stuff.

Fuck em. Cut off all government aid for a year and make them do the Hunger Games.
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johno wrote:

The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown.

This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store.Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the District Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08 ... ike-brown/

If true, this incident will probably
go the way of the Martin/Zimmerman kerfuffle.

Hey, hey, hey! That video is controversial and has nothing to do with this matter. So says the faggots sitting around making up excuses for their favorite welfare pets.
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The two take away facts from this whole fiasco.

1) The Black community and their liberal enablers are completely detached from reality and more than willing to lie to advance their agenda.

2) The Police are complete imbeciles and thugs when it comes to effectively policing a community and dealing with the press.
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johno wrote:

The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. Officer Wilson clearly feared for his life during the incident that led to the shooting death of Brown.

This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store.Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the District Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08 ... ike-brown/

If true, this incident will probably
go the way of the Martin/Zimmerman kerfuffle.
Even if the cop was completely justified in his use of force, like Zimmerman, his life in that community and perhaps in law enforcement in general is ruined. This is not to suggest Zimmerman didn't deserve what he got (because he turned out to be a shitbag), but (if true), the cop doesn't.

My guess is that either way the civil suits will drag on for years, cost Ferguson millions in legal costs, and ruin what's left of that city. They might have to pull a Stockton just to survive. And the police chief and other senior city leaders will still get their full pensions.
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And "Lower Income Black-African-Americans" just took a few steps back in many people's eyes who won't say it but sure will vote it and little things, like not giving a fuck about their "plight" that can have an effect.

You said it best with using the example of MLK, who helped show that black people were civil, peaceable and decent and therefore should get a seat at the table and then what shit like Watts to L.A. 92, Overtown and Liberty City a million fucking times and now this mess.

I like how some reporters have pointed out that things are peaceful during the day and then get wild at night.

Sleeping in, hooking up and getting fucked up before going out and getting your Riot on. :finga:




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Batboy2/75 wrote:In no particular order

De-unionize LEO.
Decommission most of the LEO SWAT units. Most are a solution looking for problem. That is how SWAT units ended up serving warrants for a couple ounces of pot etc.
Each Sate establish a LEO version of the UCMJ. Being an LEO entails a lot of power- place officers under a legal system like the UCMJ.
Raise standards for across the board; fire those that get off on abusing power (see UCMJ for LEO), the corrupt and the lazy fat fucks.
End the war on drugs; legalize pot entirely and legalize possession of the rest.
Stop aping the military. Actually every reference to the military- ranks, tactics etc should be stripped from everyday LEO terminology
Return to community policing, where officers are part of the community.
End no knock warrants and civil forfeiture laws
Crush the LEO vs everyone else culture. Hound, fire and imprison the dumb asses that believe they are above the law and entitle to special rights.
Ragnarok is upon us! I totally agree with bats on every point he made.

My friend is an LEO. Not a very good one. He was extremely pissed that the new assitant chief wanted the cops in mobile units during the morning and afternoon shifts to take 15 minutes out of every other hour to introduce themselves to the folks they were protecting and serving. I told him that I thought that it was a good idea. He furiously replied to me as follows,"You can't expect the police to interact with the public!"

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DARTH wrote:And "Lower Income Black-African-Americans" just took a few steps back in many people's eyes who won't say it but sure will vote it and little things, like not giving a fuck about their "plight" that can have an effect.

You said it best with using the example of MLK, who helped show that black people were civil, peaceable and decent and therefore should get a seat at the table and then what shit like Watts to L.A. 92, Overtown and Liberty City a million fucking times and now this mess.

I like how some reporters have pointed out that things are peaceful during the day and then get wild at night.

Sleeping in, hooking up and getting fucked up before going out and getting your Riot on. :finga:
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cleaner464 wrote:
Batboy2/75 wrote:In no particular order

De-unionize LEO.
Decommission most of the LEO SWAT units. Most are a solution looking for problem. That is how SWAT units ended up serving warrants for a couple ounces of pot etc.
Each Sate establish a LEO version of the UCMJ. Being an LEO entails a lot of power- place officers under a legal system like the UCMJ.
Raise standards for across the board; fire those that get off on abusing power (see UCMJ for LEO), the corrupt and the lazy fat fucks.
End the war on drugs; legalize pot entirely and legalize possession of the rest.
Stop aping the military. Actually every reference to the military- ranks, tactics etc should be stripped from everyday LEO terminology
Return to community policing, where officers are part of the community.
End no knock warrants and civil forfeiture laws
Crush the LEO vs everyone else culture. Hound, fire and imprison the dumb asses that believe they are above the law and entitle to special rights.
Ragnarok is upon us! I totally agree with bats on every point he made.

My friend is an LEO. Not a very good one. He was extremely pissed that the new assitant chief wanted the cops in mobile units during the morning and afternoon shifts to take 15 minutes out of every other hour to introduce themselves to the folks they were protecting and serving. I told him that I thought that it was a good idea. He furiously replied to me as follows,"You can't expect the police to interact with the public!"

The "Patriot" laws were supposed to sunset in 2010. To BO's eternal shame he extended them. I sat out the 2012 election as a result.
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Over 100 people showed up on Tuesday night at the first Ferguson City Council meeting since Michael Brown's killing, and unreasonable court fees were a major complaint. Ferguson officials proposed scaling back the myriad ways small-time offenders can end up paying big bucks—or worse. Community activists are optimistic about the proposed changes, but as it turns out, imposing punitive court fines on poor residents is a major source of income for a number of St. Louis County municipalities.

How bad is the current system? Say you're a low-income Ferguson resident who's been hit with a municipal fine for rolling through a stop sign, driving without insurance, or neglecting to subscribe to the city's trash collection service. A look at the municipal codes in Ferguson and nearby towns reveals how these fines and fees can quickly stack up.

To start, you might show up on time for your court date, only to find that your hearing is already over. How is that possible? According to a Ferguson court employee who spoke with St. Louis-based legal aid watchdog ArchCity Defenders, the bench routinely starts hearing cases 30 minutes before the appointed time and even locks the doors as early as five minutes after the official hour, hitting defendants who arrive just slightly late with an additional charge of $120-130.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... -big-fines
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