http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11503 ... tive-aprilA law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancée to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.
The official played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."
The law enforcement official, speaking to the AP on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, says he had no further communication with any NFL employee and can't confirm anyone watched the video. He said he was unauthorized to release the video but shared it unsolicited because he wanted the NFL to have it before deciding on Rice's punishment.
The NFL has repeatedly said it asked for but could not obtain the video of Rice hitting Janay Palmer -- who is now his wife -- at an Atlantic City casino in February.
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I could easily foresee Goodell going down in this.
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Silver lining?Phaedrus wrote:I could easily foresee Goodell going down in this.
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I don't follow the NFL close enough to have an opinion related to him but people should be more "outraged" by the actions of the league than by Rice himself, in my opinion.DrDonkeyLove wrote:Silver lining?Phaedrus wrote:I could easily foresee Goodell going down in this.
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No way Goddell goes down for this. The NFL is about making money and they are absolutely printing it.
Krafty Bob embarrassed himself on CBS. They weren't going to ask him tough questions because they air the games. Complete conflict of interest.
The league is a complete joke. Over 60% of retired players are broke after they're done. Brain injuries, domestic violence, drug addict owners, shaking down fans for personalized seating licenses, asking performers to pay to play at the Super Bowl. Ticky tack penalties. WIth endless commercials, games last too long. I had the Patriots game on Sunday and on Fox was the NO/ATL game. At least 6 times when I flipped over, they had commercials as well.
There is no flow to the game. Touchdown, commercial, kickoff, commercial, injury during kickoff commercial. It's brutal.
I have seasons for the Pats, i go to maybe one game a year. Sell the rest. I'm too much of a pussy to go to a night game in December. Give me the 1PM Sept/Oct game. But it's a pain in the ass. The Krafts shake you down, it takes 40 minutes to get in the stadium with all the security. I refuse to spend money in the stadium and park a mile away so the extra $ doesn't go into their pockets. And they are the better owners.
Goddell makes $44M a year as the owners mouthpiece. His best asset is his former news bunny wife Jane Skinner
Krafty Bob embarrassed himself on CBS. They weren't going to ask him tough questions because they air the games. Complete conflict of interest.
The league is a complete joke. Over 60% of retired players are broke after they're done. Brain injuries, domestic violence, drug addict owners, shaking down fans for personalized seating licenses, asking performers to pay to play at the Super Bowl. Ticky tack penalties. WIth endless commercials, games last too long. I had the Patriots game on Sunday and on Fox was the NO/ATL game. At least 6 times when I flipped over, they had commercials as well.
There is no flow to the game. Touchdown, commercial, kickoff, commercial, injury during kickoff commercial. It's brutal.
I have seasons for the Pats, i go to maybe one game a year. Sell the rest. I'm too much of a pussy to go to a night game in December. Give me the 1PM Sept/Oct game. But it's a pain in the ass. The Krafts shake you down, it takes 40 minutes to get in the stadium with all the security. I refuse to spend money in the stadium and park a mile away so the extra $ doesn't go into their pockets. And they are the better owners.
Goddell makes $44M a year as the owners mouthpiece. His best asset is his former news bunny wife Jane Skinner
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This x 100.BFly wrote:No way Goddell goes down for this. The NFL is about making money and they are absolutely printing it.
Krafty Bob embarrassed himself on CBS. They weren't going to ask him tough questions because they air the games. Complete conflict of interest.
The league is a complete joke. Over 60% of retired players are broke after they're done. Brain injuries, domestic violence, drug addict owners, shaking down fans for personalized seating licenses, asking performers to pay to play at the Super Bowl. Ticky tack penalties. WIth endless commercials, games last too long. I had the Patriots game on Sunday and on Fox was the NO/ATL game. At least 6 times when I flipped over, they had commercials as well.
There is no flow to the game. Touchdown, commercial, kickoff, commercial, injury during kickoff commercial. It's brutal.
I have seasons for the Pats, i go to maybe one game a year. Sell the rest. I'm too much of a pussy to go to a night game in December. Give me the 1PM Sept/Oct game. But it's a pain in the ass. The Krafts shake you down, it takes 40 minutes to get in the stadium with all the security. I refuse to spend money in the stadium and park a mile away so the extra $ doesn't go into their pockets. And they are the better owners.
Goddell makes $44M a year as the owners mouthpiece. His best asset is his former news bunny wife Jane Skinner

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Exactly. Fuck the NFL and fuck Goodell.BFly wrote:No way Goddell goes down for this. The NFL is about making money and they are absolutely printing it.
Krafty Bob embarrassed himself on CBS. They weren't going to ask him tough questions because they air the games. Complete conflict of interest.
The league is a complete joke. Over 60% of retired players are broke after they're done. Brain injuries, domestic violence, drug addict owners, shaking down fans for personalized seating licenses, asking performers to pay to play at the Super Bowl. Ticky tack penalties. WIth endless commercials, games last too long. I had the Patriots game on Sunday and on Fox was the NO/ATL game. At least 6 times when I flipped over, they had commercials as well.
There is no flow to the game. Touchdown, commercial, kickoff, commercial, injury during kickoff commercial. It's brutal.
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http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/ ... d-hit-wifeRay Rice told NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on June 16 that he punched his then-fiancee in a casino elevator, four sources have told "Outside the Lines," an assertion that contradicts Goodell's statement this week that "when we met with Ray Rice and his representatives, it was ambiguous about what actually happened."
Goodell made the statement Tuesday during an interview with CBS News, saying the latest video released by TMZ Sports about the incident was "inconsistent" with what the former Baltimore Ravens running back had told him. But four sources close to Rice say that during the disciplinary meeting in the commissioner's office on June 16, Rice told Goodell he had hit Janay Rice, then his fiancee, in the face inside a Revel Casino Hotel elevator in Atlantic City, New Jersey, and had knocked her unconscious.
"Ray didn't lie to the commissioner," a source with knowledge of the meeting told "Outside the Lines." "He told the full truth to Goodell -- he made it clear he had hit her, and he told Goodell he was sorry and that it wouldn't happen again."
Goodell has effectively made a guy who beat his fiance unconscious into a victim. Impressive.
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I love football. I wonder what it is that y'all are trying to get from the game/league?
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The NFL games are like Hot Dogs
Every one enjoys them, you just don't want to know the process to the end product.
For the record I sold all my tickets. No trips to Gillette for me.
I love watching on tv when they show all 5 ft 6 inches of Krafty Bob and his douchebag DNA lottery hitting son Jonathan sitting in the owners box with their two seats propped a 2 feet higher than any one else, like they're Oliver Cromwell and his off spring. What sphincters.
Every one enjoys them, you just don't want to know the process to the end product.
For the record I sold all my tickets. No trips to Gillette for me.
I love watching on tv when they show all 5 ft 6 inches of Krafty Bob and his douchebag DNA lottery hitting son Jonathan sitting in the owners box with their two seats propped a 2 feet higher than any one else, like they're Oliver Cromwell and his off spring. What sphincters.
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http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26512888/r ... night-gameMusic blared from the purple bus, and Baltimore Ravens fan Racquel Bailey stood with drink in hand amid her usual tailgate buddies while making a bold fashion statement: a black, rhinestone-decorated jersey with the white No. 27.
A Ray Rice jersey.
"There's two sides to every story," said the 23-year-old waitress from Baltimore. "I saw the video. That's their personal business, and it shouldn't have affected his career. I don't agree with domestic violence, but she's still with him, so obviously it wasn't that big of a deal. Everyone should just drop it."
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ray rice shoulda done like the other baltimore ray--lewis, that is.
kill a couple of guys. then you get to be a sports caster on espn.
kill a couple of guys. then you get to be a sports caster on espn.
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Hey, somebody post this clip from the Daily Show. Very solid. I can't do where I'm at right now.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/v4d7z ... -gentlemen
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hadn't seen that shape, and hadn't seen that someone had confronted ray lewis. he's weak sauce.
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Who can stomach corporate sports anyway? It's a gigantic money miasma and, oh yeah! they also play a game!
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From Deadspin:

Ray Lewis: There is no comparison of me and Ray Rice. I'm far more similar to Aaron Hernandez.




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I find the entire NFL punishing players for off the field stuff to be stupid. Isn't that what the fucking court system is for? Rice should be in Jail, not serving a life long ban from football.
Instead of the NFL commissioner being in hot water, why isn't the Atlantic City District Attorney?
Instead of the NFL commissioner being in hot water, why isn't the Atlantic City District Attorney?
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/10/ju ... ingle-mom/Shaneen Allen wants to know what makes her so different from Ray Rice.
Allen, a 27-year-old Philadelphia mother who says she mistakenly entered New Jersey with a handgun legally registered in her state, was not accepted into a pre-trial intervention program, unlike the former Baltimore Ravens running back who was caught on an elevator surveillance camera punching his then-fiancée and current wife. The disparate decisions, made by the same prosecutor and approved by the same judge, leave Allen facing more than three years in prison and Rice free, though disgraced.
Atlantic County prosecutor Jim McClain recommended Rice for the program in May, months after denying the single mother's application. And Superior Court Judge Michael Donio, who signed off on the agreement that spared Rice jail time, denied a motion by Allen's attorney to force McClain to reconsider.
"What makes Ray Rice so different from me that I couldn’t be accepted by the same prosecutor and judge? Is it that he ‘was’ a pro athlete but I’m a single mother of 2?”
“That’s not justice for me or my children,” Allen, a single mom of two sons, Niaire, 10, and Sincere, 3, told FoxNews.com. “What makes Ray Rice so different from me that I couldn’t be accepted by the same prosecutor and judge? Is it that he was a pro athlete but I’m a single mother of two?”
He should be...
...but DA Friendly is using the Shinseki defense too.McKeen [Public Information Officer for Atlantic City] declined to indicate whether prosecutors made that decision prior to seeing the elevator surveillance tape released on Monday clearly showed Rice — who has since been indefinitely suspended by the NFL — striking Janay Palmer in the Revel Casino Hotel in Atlantic City.
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Nobody's punishing anybody for off-field behavior. Players are being punished for being caught doing stupid shit that potentially makes the league look bad. They are able to print money only because they reach such a wide audience in the US.Batboy2/75 wrote:I find the entire NFL punishing players for off the field stuff to be stupid. Isn't that what the fucking court system is for? Rice should be in Jail, not serving a life long ban from football.
I mean, suspending players for failing drug tests for pot have nothing to do with the game. It has everything to do with perception of the public.
The latest Rice video yielded no new information - it simply went viral and got people talking.
If you kill somebody, hide the evidence and praise the lord enough times and things are fine. You want to beat your wife, kids or next door neighbor, go ahead but pictures will get you in trouble and video evidence will end your career.
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I wonder if Lucian Grainge will decide to suspend Justin Bieber for 4 concerts for his latest assault charge
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Ha! Excellent Bux. The rocket scientist is on it!
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http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/tor ... d=25351496Assault charges against Justin Bieber for an incident that happened late last year in Toronto have been dropped, his lawyer told ABC News on Monday.
"On January 29, 2014, Justin Bieber was charged with assault in relation to an incident in Toronto that had allegedly occurred on December 29, 2013. Today we appeared in the Ontario Court of Justice in Toronto at which time that charge was withdrawn at the request of the Crown, who can't be made to believe he's physically capable of assaulting anybody effectively," Bieber's attorney Brian Greenspan said in a statement to ABC.
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I don't care what the justice system found. UMG needs to step up and suspend him. Set a precedent for these diva pop artists
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Yes, the only way to get in trouble for things is by your employer or by the judiciary.Batboy2/75 wrote:I find the entire NFL punishing players for off the field stuff to be stupid. Isn't that what the fucking court system is for?
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12031 ... ta-vikingsThe NFL Players Association has filed a lawsuit against the NFL in U.S. District Court in Minneapolis, challenging an arbitrator's decision made Friday to uphold Adrian Peterson's suspension by the league.
In the lawsuit, the union argues that arbitrator Harold Henderson's decision was biased, unfair and contrary to the collective bargaining agreement. The NFLPA has often gone to the district court in Minnesota to contest labor matters with the league.
The lawsuit comes as ABC News has obtained a recording of the Nov. 12 phone call between Troy Vincent and Peterson in which the NFL executive tells the Minnesota Vikings running back that he would be reinstated after a two-game suspension and get credit for his time on the commissioner's exempt list.
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