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Why in the fuck are we not talking about Homeland?

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I know this thing started off super strong and then wobbled horribly last year but listen to me now or smell me later...this season is the absolute best. I've got a most seriouso man-crush on Quinn. C'mon you non-flossing dingleberry biters...get back on this show. It's fucking crazy.

Baff, c'mon broheim. You're the one that got me started on this show. I'm telling you, this season is redemption for such a precipitious drop in awesomeness last season.

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Best season ever.
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I dunno....
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Word on the street is Lisa Ann is a big fan of the show.

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Okay, I'll watch this season and get back to you. Have some time off here in the next couple weeks again, so I should be able to catch up.

I've got a couple other shows to catch up on, too.
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You really got me with the Lisa Ann comment.
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It was getting a little shaky up top with the oh noes Carrie crazy agin schtick but has turned very strong.
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Dar Adal is one dirty nig
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Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:Dar Adal is one dirty nig
Never trust a man who doesn't have a beard. I guess Saul will end up being CIA director again at the end of the season.
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i think most people aren't talking about it because the show is horribly scripted and produced. With a few exceptions the acting has been terrible and the plots are completely implausible but YMMV. You can all stop reading right now since I'm the one writing this and there are spoilers ahead. The show has been on a downhill since year 1 (I watched all of it in a few days when I was sick with the flu but still had enough critical faculties to know that only in TV land could such events occur.) Last year the show reached truly dreadful proportions. Carrie climbing a fence watching Brody hanging by the neck twisting in the wind with absolutely no Iranian security around to arrest her? What were they doing watching reruns of Brodie giving interviews condemning the great Satan on Al Kawthar TV?
http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b6628-Al-K ... V-Iran.htm

What universe could that take place in but a more important question is what drugs are the writers and producers and actors on and where can we get some and make our own TV shows that have to be a helluva of a lot better than Homeland? It would be really enlightening to watch the writers who actually get paid to bounce ideas off each other laugh their asses off at this sheeite soon to consumed by viewers who could be engaged in a number of much more important, productive, or entertaining activities such as lifting barbells, reading Feodor Doestoevski, Marcel Proust, or Seahill (you're in good company here) or even hitting rock bottom and listening to the latest podcast with Mark Rippetoe preaching for the umpteenth time why sets of five with the low bar squat are the most efficient way to get strong. Who couldn't learn a thing or two from Rip who has uncovered secrets long forgotten since Milo discovered progressive overload. The renowned strength coach and philosopher from Witchita Falls admitted he had fucked up all his relationships with women and couldn't understand how he always chose the wrong ones has the same first sentence in chapter one of all three versions of his book Starting Strength, "Physical strength is the most important thing in life." Tell that to crying babies or angry girl friends. I can't tell if he's joking but maybe I haven't lifted enough and seen the light like Rip who still laments his mediocre powerlifting career. Only recently way past his prime has he realized the awful truth if only he'd been fifty pounds heavier he'd have set the world of powerlifting on fire and in its glory days no less.

If you haven't gathered by now I stopped listening to Rip and watching Homeland about midway last season (my wife gave me the episode synopses) and tried again this year but could only make it to episode four or five before giving up but Andy Greenwald of ESPN.com wrote this glowing review calling it great TV and I got suckered back in.

http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospect ... th-season/

I had a good laugh but thought that episode was horrible except for a few minutes with Quinn at the end.
Carrie Mathieson isn't fit to be the head of anything anywhere on this planet let alone a CIA station. Even the CIA couldn't be that dumb to send Carrie to Pakistan to be station chief no matter what Lockhart demands. Carrie has incriminating evidence on him and they don't? Are they so incompetent that there aren't cameras in every room in their station in Islamabad unless Carrie had them taken down so how could they not know the ambassador's husband was in her room switching her meds. Didn't he leave a few fingerprints around for some super sleuth to find? For the good of the show Carrie should be killed off and Claire Danes could find suitable employment in what Newton Minnow, President Kennedy's head of the FCC called the vast wasteland.

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Diana Rigg, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001671
not the current model, but the one from the Avengers TV show of the 1960's would be a suitable replacement. The technology must exist by now for that.

Before Carrie overdoses on psyche meds, alcohol, and smooth jazz when she learns her baby (remember there was such a thing about 8 or 9 episodes ago) is left to die in excruciating pain in a locked car by Carrie's Alzheimer's ridden father in the blazing South African sun (where the show is currently being filmed) she can do the tango on arch terrorist Haissam Haqqani's face and rid us of one of worst actors in the history of television and be sent to Paradise for his 72 virgins or is it 72 raisins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmwcmOPemk

The show could go on in her memory with Diana Rigg, Saul Berenson, Virgil, Max, Quinn, and Abu Nazir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTpsy4McjzQ

resurrected to torment Americans for their sins of pension plans (vastly underfunded these days), organic foods (who didn't eat organic until sixty or seventy years ago when pesticides were introduced and we live longer than they did), beach houses (bought up by the Chinese), and sports clubs (be they globo gyms or any team from Cleveland since God hates them all)



Finally for the true Homeland afficionado who can't get enough Andy Greenwald talks Homeland about twenty minutes in
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=12000523

It gets pretty funny after a while.


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Just finished watching the latest episode. I had a good laugh. How many baby pictures were submitted to find one that looks like Brodie and why isn't Maggie screaming at Carrie to come home and raise her little monstrosity? Quinn has the wrong target. He should turn his rage on the writers of this drivel. Why doesn't Khan shoot Tasneem already? Isn't he tired of being ordered around by that bitch? Khan and Quinn should take their two lovely lady handlers out to the South African desert, dig a big hole, throw Carrie and Tasneem into it, wait for the lions to devour the two of them, and put the video up on youtube in a protest against PETA. Then they can kidnap the writers, producers, directors and whoever ok'd this and drag them screaming into the worst section of Johannesburg or Cape Town and tell the locals they're fair game. Maybe they'd hack them to death or hold them for ransom. It could all be filmed and auctioned off to the highest bidder in the next phase of reality TV.


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Lenny, you're kinda fucking this up for me. I get where you're coming from but from where I sit I just try to watch what is unfolding in front of me as intended by the writer(s) and director. Sometimes I get it and sometimes not. There are some things that obviously have plot holes large enough to jump through and others do just about as good as can be done. The essense of creative writing is the "suspension of disbelieve" and for some the parameters are wide (mine) and for others not so much. With all that being said although I find Carrie's character somewhat maddening, especially these last three episodes, the situation she's a part of is quite maddening as well. She told her boss, the current director of the CIA, that she'd bring Quinn back and she feels compelled to do this one right thing because she truly feels he'll be killed in his solo pursuit of justice...can't blame her for that. But if you're that guy that Quinn shot in the leg you're not down with that shit at all. I've genuinely enjoyed this season and I've tried not to pick on it too much. If you were a former intell officer or specops guy well naturally I could see you couldn't stop yourself from getting irritated.

On the same topic but different slant...there's some speculation they trimmed the 10th or the 11th episode to remove a torture scene. Recall Quinn slipping into the vehicle with the ISI agent that helped in Saul's capture earlier...Quinn walks him into that garage and the camera briefly focuses on some "tools" e.g. duct tape, hacksaw etc. Perhaps with the CIA torture report out they may have been asked or felt compelled to trim a scene that may have upset some folks.

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He should have butt tube fed that asshole.

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Baff, what say you broheim? Lenny's trying to get his meds dialed in but I'd like to hear what you think so far.

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A lot of thoughts:
1) Lenny's post was so long that I figured he was having a bit of a breakdown and just skipped it. No idea what's wrong with him.

2) This season is a huge comeback from last year. I didn't even watch last year's finale and instead just read recaps of what happened.

3) There are always going to be some plot holes and improbable twists, but that's, you know, what escapism is all about. I just had major issues with a bipolar nutjob having so much responsibility. It ruined the show because it was just too much.

4) Finally letting Quinn off the leash is something I was bitching about last season. They've got this black ops, Real Life Call Of Duty, Mitch Rapp/Jason Bourne motherfucker and he's just now killing folks that need killin? Better late than never.

5) The hot Muslim chick, Fara, is actually Iranian-British, which reminds me of a crazy hot, incredibly psycho Iranian chick I dated in college. I mean, if she was a 9.5 hot (legit), then she was a 14 crazy. It was a terrifying, and also very happy, time in young Baffy's life.
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Lenny, tell us about how Breaking Bad sucks because a teacher couldn't become a drug lord that easily.
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i only watched the last episode of breaking bad because everyone thought it was so great. i'd give it the same failing grade for the same reasons of Homeland - horrible acting, script, etc.. YMMV

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lenny wrote:i only watched the last episode of breaking bad because everyone thought it was so great. i'd give it the same failing grade for the same reasons of Homeland - horrible acting, script, etc.. YMMV
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This is the most insightful brilliant feedback I've gotten in months. The level of intelligence some of you display is beyond belief.
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Meditate lenny. Meditate.
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I've been doing these meditations recently. You might want to try it. All you have to lose are your illusions according to this teacher.
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Season finale was absolute dogshit.
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I was disappointed also Mr. Fuzz. It was like they were up all night drinking and partying after last week's episode thinking they had wrapped it up, then somebody looked at the calendar and said wait, we fucked up...we've got one more episode to do!

Hey, was I the only one that thought when Quinn got in his truck and drove off after talking to Carrie that it was going to blow up?

I've got a feeling he's not going to be back anyway. He's supposed to be Agent 47 in a new Hit Man movie.

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Shapecharge wrote:Hey, was I the only one that thought when Quinn got in his truck and drove off after talking to Carrie that it was going to blow up?
Seemed strongly like somebody was about to die.

I didn't like this finale except insofar as it's interesting to see Saul get compromised.
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When you think about it a little bit though, what else could they do? Have Quinn running around capping fuckers, getting even, cleaning it all up nice and tidy for the next season? Look at it this way: when she's driving away from Dar Adal's place her world just really got turned upside down...yeah, her father died and some crazy shit has happened but she just walked away knowing the world as she thought it existed is even fucking murkier and there's really no one that can be trusted. I hope this season wasn't a last creative gasp for air like Timmah's fake drowning incident. There's really something to play off of next year...well fuck, next October.

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