It's not about 17 year olds boning a hot 30 year old, it's about a teacher, in a position of authority and responsibility, illegally abusing that authority.
It it was a man, everyone would be sickened.
22 years is a bit excessive, and the kids should have shut their fucking mouths if they liked it
Shafpocalypse Now wrote:It's not about 17 year olds boning a hot 30 year old, it's about a teacher, in a position of authority and responsibility, illegally abusing that authority.
In the end it is just about 30yo woman having sex with 17yo man.
I remember someone on IGX saying that two years for Pussy Riot for real hooligan case was too cruel.
Shafpocalypse Now wrote:It's not about 17 year olds boning a hot 30 year old, it's about a teacher, in a position of authority and responsibility, illegally abusing that authority.
It it was a man, everyone would be sickened.
22 years is a bit excessive, and the kids should have shut their fucking mouths if they liked it
Shafpocalypse Now wrote:It's not about 17 year olds boning a hot 30 year old, it's about a teacher, in a position of authority and responsibility, illegally abusing that authority.
It it was a man, everyone would be sickened.
22 years is a bit excessive, and the kids should have shut their fucking mouths if they liked it
I heartily agree with Shaf, on this.
I think I half agree with you two...
This woman clearly had a responsibility to treat these boys better than she did.
I do not see that there was an abuse of authority unless one defines that as definitional and I am against that. I see a difference between this scenario and one in which the one in authority says fuck me or you are failing or I will screw your chances of going to college or playing in the state tournament etc...
I say fire her and no more positions of responsibility with minors and not jail time.
CASE CLOSED! NEXT CASE!
Plus she is pretty and pretty women don't go to jail.
bennyonesix wrote:
This woman clearly had a responsibility to treat these boys better than she did.
I do not see that there was an abuse of authority unless one defines that as definitional and I am against that. I see a difference between this scenario and one in which the one in authority says fuck me or you are failing or I will screw your chances of going to college or playing in the state tournament etc...
I say fire her and no more positions of responsibility with minors and not jail time.
CASE CLOSED! NEXT CASE!
Plus she is pretty and pretty women don't go to jail.
She didn't extort them, but how could you argue she didn't abuse her position of authority? Sure, the kids might have enjoyed it and maybe they're aren't scarred by the experience, but it's still despicable.
I distinguish between breach of responsibility/duty and abuse of authority. I think the first, while bad, is not as bad as the second. Both should be punished but not identically or equally. I think it is enough to take her permanently out of positions of authority re: minors. As you say, there is no indication she extorted sex from them on the basis of her position.
I think the elision of the two was done in the '90's to expose more males to more serious penalties for their sexual actions. The cultural far Left and the cultural far Right joined forces because their goal was the same: repression of the male sexual impulse and perpetuation of the (white) female as societies treasure.
I think it is clear that the educational system can not work if the possibility of sexual relations between teacher and pupil is allowed. I don't think that means all sex between teachers and pupils is abuse of "authority".
Protobot wrote:Something tells me the boys weren't viewing her as much of an "authority figure."
Let's not pretend this is a cop holding a gun to a kid's head and making her bang him.
Not the point at all. If a teacher, male or female, is using his/her job as an opportunity to scout tail, that's an abuse of authority. Clearly 17 is not the same as 12, and a teacher isn't a babysitter, but it's not so different.
Again I say, what is the big deal over this? I fucked my teacher all though high school and it was no big deal. I am totally fucking normal with zero issues.
I may have forgot to mention I was home-schooled, but that doesn't make any difference.
While in college in my senior year I hooked up with this returning adult student at a Christmas party. Somewhere during the evening at her apartment, got around to asking what she did before coming back to school. She taught math. Where? At Umpty-squat Junior High. Hey, I went there...wait a minute...oh my god...
nafod wrote:While in college in my senior year I hooked up with this returning adult student at a Christmas party. Somewhere during the evening at her apartment, got around to asking what she did before coming back to school. She taught math. Where? At Umpty-squat Junior High. Hey, I went there...wait a minute...oh my god...
22 years is fucking ludicrious. But in Florida age of consent if 18, unless you're a digusting 23 year old dude fucking a 16 year old girl, then it's cool
bennyonesix wrote:I distinguish between breach of responsibility/duty and abuse of authority. I think the first, while bad, is not as bad as the second. Both should be punished but not identically or equally. I think it is enough to take her permanently out of positions of authority re: minors. As you say, there is no indication she extorted sex from them on the basis of her position.
I tend to agree with this.
Growing up you would hear stories of this kind of thing happening. Perhaps I didn't actually 'hear' them as much as imagined hearing them but that's close enough.
I did know of a girl who married her teacher a few months after she turned 18 and finished school. Nothing was every said and they've been together since and have a ton of kids together - both working in education I believe.
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nafod wrote:While in college in my senior year I hooked up with this returning adult student at a Christmas party. Somewhere during the evening at her apartment, got around to asking what she did before coming back to school. She taught math. Where? At Umpty-squat Junior High. Hey, I went there...wait a minute...oh my god...