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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:We need mean fag brigades whose sole purpose is to sodomize these cunts until they bleed out, then we distribute the video on pornhub
Yeah! We match whatever shit they do and raise the crazy!The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:Bah, I hate to summarily disagree with both of you, but hey, I am cool with turning Raqqa to glass for giggles. Do it. Watch it not have any positive effect on recruitment (positive from our viewpoint). Now shove a fucking Mickey D's sausage biscuit in the mouth of a guy with his Axed backed hair-do before you slash his throat and rinse and repeat on social media and you will get things done. I don't think I am being horrific or abusive here, I am just making sense.The Ginger Beard Man wrote:This.johno wrote:Re: ISIS - we don't have to get fancy. If possessing territory is essential to the Caliphate, make them stateless and homeless.
If "winning" attracts more converts, then kill them & post to social media.
AND attack their funding. AND attack/challenge their religious authority. AND....
The one thing we cannot do, because the American people don't have the patience for it, is nation build. Actually, it's tragic.
They do possess territory. They have a capital city; Raqqa. Why is it still standing?
Everyone is pussyfooting around; the French, us, the vaunted Russians. Turn it to a pile of rubble, then set fire to the rubble.
And all the rest.
WildGorillaMan wrote:Enthusiasm combined with no skill whatsoever can sometimes carry the day.
Because they have ~150,000 human shields.The Ginger Beard Man wrote:This.johno wrote:Re: ISIS - we don't have to get fancy. If possessing territory is essential to the Caliphate, make them stateless and homeless.
If "winning" attracts more converts, then kill them & post to social media.
AND attack their funding. AND attack/challenge their religious authority. AND....
The one thing we cannot do, because the American people don't have the patience for it, is nation build. Actually, it's tragic.
They do possess territory. They have a capital city; Raqqa. Why is it still standing?
Benni was more fun when he was on his meds.The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:I am sick of you.TerryB wrote:no homoflirting
Dear civilians at Raqqa, you have an important choice to make: either you find and kill all the terrorist scum among you, or you will be bombed until nothing survives.Turdacious wrote:Because they have ~150,000 human shields.The Ginger Beard Man wrote:This.johno wrote:Re: ISIS - we don't have to get fancy. If possessing territory is essential to the Caliphate, make them stateless and homeless.
If "winning" attracts more converts, then kill them & post to social media.
AND attack their funding. AND attack/challenge their religious authority. AND....
The one thing we cannot do, because the American people don't have the patience for it, is nation build. Actually, it's tragic.
They do possess territory. They have a capital city; Raqqa. Why is it still standing?
No homoflirtingShafpocalypse Now wrote:We need mean fag brigades whose sole purpose is to sodomize these cunts until they bleed out, then we distribute the video on pornhub
We Asked Marco Rubio to Lay Out His ISIL Strategy. Here It Is.As president, I would demand that Iraq’s Shiite-dominated government grant greater autonomy to Sunnis,
He left out the pork and nukes, so he probably won't gain much with the base. He left out the 200k troops for 10 years, so the serious people aren't inclined to pay him much mind either.Yes I Have Balls wrote:We Asked Marco Rubio to Lay Out His ISIL Strategy. Here It Is.As president, I would demand that Iraq’s Shiite-dominated government grant greater autonomy to Sunnis,
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... z3rzCnL7BE
I posted this so many of the hawks here could have something new to pleasure themselves to tonight.
Or we have 150,000 less future refugees to deal with. I don't want to see us killing civilians, but it isn't exactly new, is it?SubClaw wrote:Dear civilians at Raqqa, you have an important choice to make: either you find and kill all the terrorist scum among you, or you will be bombed until nothing survives.Turdacious wrote:Because they have ~150,000 human shields.The Ginger Beard Man wrote:This.johno wrote:Re: ISIS - we don't have to get fancy. If possessing territory is essential to the Caliphate, make them stateless and homeless.
If "winning" attracts more converts, then kill them & post to social media.
AND attack their funding. AND attack/challenge their religious authority. AND....
The one thing we cannot do, because the American people don't have the patience for it, is nation build. Actually, it's tragic.
They do possess territory. They have a capital city; Raqqa. Why is it still standing?
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Disengage from the outcome and do work.
Jezzy Bell wrote:Use a fucking barbell, pansy.
They would never do that you racist islamaphobe.Shafpocalypse Now wrote:We need mean fag brigades whose sole purpose is to sodomize these cunts until they bleed out, then we distribute the video on pornhub
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Disengage from the outcome and do work.
Jezzy Bell wrote:Use a fucking barbell, pansy.
Good thinking!Shafpocalypse Now wrote:We need mean fag brigades whose sole purpose is to sodomize these cunts until they bleed out, then we distribute the video on pornhub
The Ginger Beard Man wrote:Or we have 150,000 less future refugees to deal with. I don't want to see us killing civilians, but it isn't exactly new, is it?SubClaw wrote:Dear civilians at Raqqa, you have an important choice to make: either you find and kill all the terrorist scum among you, or you will be bombed until nothing survives.Turdacious wrote:Because they have ~150,000 human shields.The Ginger Beard Man wrote:This.johno wrote:Re: ISIS - we don't have to get fancy. If possessing territory is essential to the Caliphate, make them stateless and homeless.
If "winning" attracts more converts, then kill them & post to social media.
AND attack their funding. AND attack/challenge their religious authority. AND....
The one thing we cannot do, because the American people don't have the patience for it, is nation build. Actually, it's tragic.
They do possess territory. They have a capital city; Raqqa. Why is it still standing?
How many civilians did we kill in Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?
The world is way overpopulated anyway. We might as well even out the demographics a little. While we're at it we can start franchising Planned Parenthood, too.
Grandpa's Spells wrote:He left out the pork and nukes, so he probably won't gain much with the base. He left out the 200k troops for 10 years, so the serious people aren't inclined to pay him much mind either.Yes I Have Balls wrote:We Asked Marco Rubio to Lay Out His ISIL Strategy. Here It Is.As president, I would demand that Iraq’s Shiite-dominated government grant greater autonomy to Sunnis,
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... z3rzCnL7BE
I posted this so many of the hawks here could have something new to pleasure themselves to tonight.
He is the likeliest candidate to get the nomination, but he's gonna have to pander more or get serious if he wants to not lose.
Arguably more, if you look at drone strike rates and going hard on Al Queda. Nonetheless, the argument Rubio is making is not going to appeal to anybody except those who already support Rubio, which is not many people.The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:LOL at Spells talking about hawks when your boy, The Obama has been as hawkish over the years as Dick Cheney was.
The problem with seemingly all my hardcore leftie pals is you need to put every fucking thing into a nice little pile of lines in order to make sense of the world. You like your divisions. Hey, I liked lines too, back when I did blow.Grandpa's Spells wrote:Arguably more, if you look at drone strike rates and going hard on Al Queda. Nonetheless, the argument Rubio is making is not going to appeal to anybody except those who already support Rubio, which is not many people.The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:LOL at Spells talking about hawks when your boy, The Obama has been as hawkish over the years as Dick Cheney was.
Also, pretty big difference between "hawks," and "the base." All public statements from the military, retired or active, is that actually defeating ISIS is a long commitment with a ton of troops involved. Nobody is willing to push for that, because it's not worth the American lives.
Well said. I think you and I will be getting along much better in the future!The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:The problem with seemingly all my hardcore leftie pals is you need to put every fucking thing into a nice little pile of lines in order to make sense of the world. You like your divisions. Hey, I liked lines too, back when I did blow.Grandpa's Spells wrote:Arguably more, if you look at drone strike rates and going hard on Al Queda. Nonetheless, the argument Rubio is making is not going to appeal to anybody except those who already support Rubio, which is not many people.The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:LOL at Spells talking about hawks when your boy, The Obama has been as hawkish over the years as Dick Cheney was.
Also, pretty big difference between "hawks," and "the base." All public statements from the military, retired or active, is that actually defeating ISIS is a long commitment with a ton of troops involved. Nobody is willing to push for that, because it's not worth the American lives.
You (my liberal friends) work your ass off to politicize/polarize everything.
Where you are fundamentally incorrect is, that even if we packed our shit and GTFO of the ME, nothing changes (for the positive). Also, if you think, for a heartbeat, that our biggest problems are what we are doing 'over there' vs. what we are or are not doing over here, ya need to take another look but do so without a political affiliation for a change. We are not screwed, but what is going on in France and elsewhere are warm-ups for the big show, which is CONUS.
No. But ME terrorism will be directed towards people actually interfering with the terrorists' aims. They're assholes, but they aren't doing this for the sake of evil or because of our freedoms. They've got goals in the ME. We interfere with that.TerryB wrote:Spells, do you really think terrorism ends when America withdraws completely from the ME?
I'd actually like to see this argument fleshed out, since my explicit position is to de-politicize and do what's in the US's long term interests, despite the short-term political hit, which is not advocated by any Democrats I've heard. As far as I can tell, the closest position to mine on ISIS among the White House or WH candidates is Rand Paul's. I think Obama with airstrikes started Stage one on the "7 steps to failure" I outlined earlier.Lie Bog wrote:You (my liberal friends) work your ass off to politicize/polarize everything.
No. But ME terrorism will be directed towards people actually interfering with the terrorists' aims. They're assholes, but they aren't doing this for the sake of evil or because of our freedoms. They've got goals in the ME. We interfere with that.Grandpa's Spells wrote:TerryB wrote:Spells, do you really think terrorism ends when America withdraws completely from the ME?
What if, for a nanosecond, I am right and simple mayhem and other physical lusts on earth are the goals and the bennies along with the 70+ virgins and glory in the afterlife? That's what these kids are gunning for. Shit, the 'mastermind' who got whacked looked more like a rookie year Derek Jeter in skinny jeans than OBL. The vest chick bomber, assuming she trimmed her box would have been doable sober. No matter what your pals at CNN tell you, these are not your typical sandnigs....they *LIKE* what the west brings, but want to take it and make it their own and us packing our pail and shovel is not going to change things for us (for the better) at all. We need to make their end game unappealing to them is what it is.
Your second question is fair, but I got this job thing to tend to right now and will get back to that.
Like the guests at the Radisson Blu in Mali?Grandpa's Spells wrote:No. But ME terrorism will be directed towards people actually interfering with the terrorists' aims.TerryB wrote:Spells, do you really think terrorism ends when America withdraws completely from the ME?
I think we know the guests aren't the ones they're trying to convince.TerryB wrote:Like the guests at the Radisson Blu in Mali?Grandpa's Spells wrote:No. But ME terrorism will be directed towards people actually interfering with the terrorists' aims.TerryB wrote:Spells, do you really think terrorism ends when America withdraws completely from the ME?
Depends where. Philippines and other SEA countries have Islamic separatists who control territory. Should we stop them too?Like the people blown apart in SE Asia from time-to-time?
No, it's that the local governments should probably manage their own terrorism problems, as they usually do. We should manage our own terrorism problems. ISIS, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Brotherhood, etc. are not our problem. Al Queda is, and we're handling them pretty effectively, depending on the metric used.Would your solution be, anywhere terrorists appear, don't interfere with their aims and you'll be fine?
Are you Ben Rhodes in RL?Grandpa's Spells wrote:I think we know the guests aren't the ones they're trying to convince.TerryB wrote:Like the guests at the Radisson Blu in Mali?Grandpa's Spells wrote:No. But ME terrorism will be directed towards people actually interfering with the terrorists' aims.TerryB wrote:Spells, do you really think terrorism ends when America withdraws completely from the ME?Depends where. Philippines and other SEA countries have Islamic separatists who control territory. Should we stop them too?Like the people blown apart in SE Asia from time-to-time?No, it's that the local governments should probably manage their own terrorism problems, as they usually do. We should manage our own terrorism problems. ISIS, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Brotherhood, etc. are not our problem. Al Queda is, and we're handling them pretty effectively, depending on the metric used.Would your solution be, anywhere terrorists appear, don't interfere with their aims and you'll be fine?
Mao wrote:Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party
I think it's silly to single out the liberals for politicizing current events.The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:You (my liberal friends) work your ass off to politicize/polarize everything.
But according to you, they shouldn't have terrorism problems since they aren't meddling in the ME, which is why they're after us, according to you.Grandpa's Spells wrote: the local governments should probably manage their own terrorism problems, as they usually do.
1) The Nazi's weren't our problem either, but they easily could've become our problem if we hadn't help stop them.We should manage our own terrorism problems. ISIS, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Brotherhood, etc. are not our problem.
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling. Middle East terrorism spawns from Middle East issues. Philippine Muslim separatists want an Muslim state where they live. That's the Philippines' problem. It has nothing to do with the Middle East. The Philippines seem to be handling it.TerryB wrote:But according to you, they shouldn't have terrorism problems since they aren't meddling in the ME, which is why they're after us, according to you.Grandpa's Spells wrote: the local governments should probably manage their own terrorism problems, as they usually do.
You're not being serious, unless you really think ISIS and the WWII Axis Powers are in the same universe of threat, in which case it's time to change news sources.1) The Nazi's weren't our problem either, but they easily could've become our problem if we hadn't help stop them.
Which is why we are killing Al Queda, who killed thousands of Americans. ISIS has killed something like 5. I don't know what the threshold is for invasion, but it's not 5. The fear and panic these knuckleheads strike in Americans is fucking embarrassing.2) When Americans are killed overseas, or our ships hijacked, etc., it's our problem.
I don't care about what Islamists think. We should kill terrorists whenever they act against us, anywhere in the world.You're saying, we should fight terrorism by staying inside our borders and not pursuing our interests when and where it might make Islamists upset.
