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Coming on strong with the "small ball" attacks. But heavy on symbolism this time, nearly beheading a priest.

Two men claiming allegiance to Islamic State killed a priest and gravely injured another person Tuesday during morning Mass at a church in a northern French town, authorities said, the latest in a string of attacks that have shocked Western Europe over the last two weeks.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/one-hostage ... 1469525653

Is this the new normal?

Why not?

What is Europe going to do, deport every Muslim? Some are recently arrived "refugees" and "asylum seekers" but others, including one of the two that beheaded the priest today, are 2nd or 3rd generation French or German.

It's the ideology and you can't eliminate it, and Europe won't deport people who practice or might practice it or even put them all under surveillance, put them on watch lists, etc because Hitler.

So, yes. It's Europe's new normal.

I read another story about young Muslim men harassing Germans at a nude swimming pool.

Does anyone see this decreasing over the next 5, 10, 15 years?

TerryB wrote:Why not?

What is Europe going to do, deport every Muslim? Some are recently arrived "refugees" and "asylum seekers" but others, including one of the two that beheaded the priest today, are 2nd or 3rd generation French or German.

It's the ideology and you can't eliminate it, and Europe won't deport people who practice or might practice it or even put them all under surveillance, put them on watch lists, etc because Hitler.

So, yes. It's Europe's new normal.

I read another story about young Muslim men harassing Germans at a nude swimming pool.

Does anyone see this decreasing over the next 5, 10, 15 years?

Cultural suicide in the name of "values". Can't wrap my head around it.

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Maybe not the new normal, at least over time. Here's pollyanna's view.

ISIS loses all its territory. Begins to look like losers to the middle eastern guy on the street.

Their social media presence loses its potency and ability to recruit (who wants to join a bunch of losers).

Meanwhile, an increased anti-ISIS social media presence gains traction.

DrDonkeyLove wrote:

TerryB wrote:Why not?

What is Europe going to do, deport every Muslim? Some are recently arrived "refugees" and "asylum seekers" but others, including one of the two that beheaded the priest today, are 2nd or 3rd generation French or German.

It's the ideology and you can't eliminate it, and Europe won't deport people who practice or might practice it or even put them all under surveillance, put them on watch lists, etc because Hitler.

So, yes. It's Europe's new normal.

I read another story about young Muslim men harassing Germans at a nude swimming pool.

Does anyone see this decreasing over the next 5, 10, 15 years?

Cultural suicide in the name of "values". Can't wrap my head around it.

Every nation with a birth rate below 2.0 is committing cultural suicide.

seeahill wrote:Maybe not the new normal, at least over time. Here's pollyanna's view.

ISIS loses all its territory. Begins to look like losers to the middle eastern guy on the street.

Their social media presence loses its potency and ability to recruit (who wants to join a bunch of losers).

Meanwhile, an increased anti-ISIS social media presence gains traction.

And what happens to all the crazies when they're little "state" is occupied by someone else? They don't stop believing. And they still have social media and the internet to broadcast their little screeds and random attacks. Do you think the San Bernardino shooters would be dissuaded by the lack of a caliphate?

I don't see the random attacks across the globe ending anytime soon.

Then again, maybe you're right because until they established a caliphate, we didn't have this garbage.

I read in a great article in the Atlantic a year back or so, that they believe there will be a final battle at one particular place. We should invite them to join us in a glorious battle, the end of times battle. Then nuke them. Losing the battle of the apocalypse would probably put a pretty big nail in their caliphate's coffin.

TerryB wrote:
Then again, maybe you're right because until they established a caliphate, we didn't have this garbage.

From what I read, the greatest attraction of ISIS is the establishment of the caliphate, as prophesied in the Koran. Instead, the West needs to push them off that land, embarrass them in combat, and portray them as the Weak Horse.

And in the long game, influence more imams and Muslims around the world to condemn Islamic Jihad.

johno wrote:And in the long game, influence more imams and Muslims around the world to condemn Islamic Jihad.

The problem is the disease of religion. I say we find a way to disperse Ayahuasca as a vapor. Once you've met god a couple times the thrill wears off.

Europe has an integration problem.

Were constant airline hijackings in the '70s the 'new normal'?

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

I knew it was Europe's fault.

DrDonkeyLove wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

I knew it was Europe's fault.

You can probably reduce that to something even dumber if you try hard enough.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

DrDonkeyLove wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

I knew it was Europe's fault.

You can probably reduce that to something even dumber if you try hard enough.

Die Cis Scum?

DrDonkeyLove wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

I knew it was Europe's fault.

They overthrew the secular governments in the Arab world, which enabled the Islamists (they have sponsored) come to power.
Yes, it is Europe's fault.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

But only for the last 4000 years or so.

Turdacious wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

But only for the last 4000 years or so.

Heh.

Let's use an example where everybody's Christiand and white. Britain didn't have an Irish Catholic problem. They had a treating-people-like-shit-who-weren't-going-anywhere problem. The Catholics weren't somehow deranged by ethnicity or religion.

You can be a 3rd generation French Alergian and still be stuck in a Paris ghetto. I don't know if it's the lack of melting pot, tons of political parties that allow for small noisy groups of open racists, or whatever, but much of Western Europe is not cool to immigrants or their kids and many are quite open about it. It makes home-grown radicalization easier.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

DrDonkeyLove wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

I knew it was Europe's fault.

You can probably reduce that to something even dumber if you try hard enough.

TRUMP!

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Turdacious wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

But only for the last 4000 years or so.

Heh.

Let's use an example where everybody's Christiand and white. Britain didn't have an Irish Catholic problem. They had a treating-people-like-shit-who-weren't-going-anywhere problem. The Catholics weren't somehow deranged by ethnicity or religion.

You can be a 3rd generation French Alergian and still be stuck in a Paris ghetto. I don't know if it's the lack of melting pot, tons of political parties that allow for small noisy groups of open racists, or whatever, but much of Western Europe is not cool to immigrants or their kids and many are quite open about it. It makes home-grown radicalization easier.

Depends on how the new arrivals behave as well...no? Fit in or fuck off.

It always cracks me up how much you lot 'know' about Europe.

Look, its very hard to outbreed these cockroaches, they need to be squashed underfoot. To the point of extinction.

And you fucking liberal cunts... Its ok to be proud to be white and not want to inbreed with others.

Gav wrote:It always cracks me up how much you lot 'know' about Europe.

If only someone who lived there was around to enlighten us.

You mean like this?

And yes, Gav, what say you? Since you have essentially two perspectives: British & Italian.

Bobby wrote:

baffled wrote:Going boom now.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36880758

Yesterday a syrian asylum seeker with a machete (Germany),you had that syrian with an axe on a train (also Germany).We,here in Sweden have had an incredible amount of rapes and gang rapes.Alas the swedish media prefers not to report the facts,so we still have some stupid enough to believe that it is a sensible/viable way forward to continue on the path we are on.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Gav wrote:It always cracks me up how much you lot 'know' about Europe.

If only someone who lived there was around to enlighten us.

For a start, I always get the impression you (Americans), see Europe as a kind of United States. That couldn't be further from the truth.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Turdacious wrote:

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Europe has an integration problem.

But only for the last 4000 years or so.

Heh.

Let's use an example where everybody's Christiand and white. Britain didn't have an Irish Catholic problem. They had a treating-people-like-shit-who-weren't-going-anywhere problem. The Catholics weren't somehow deranged by ethnicity or religion.

You can be a 3rd generation French Alergian and still be stuck in a Paris ghetto. I don't know if it's the lack of melting pot, tons of political parties that allow for small noisy groups of open racists, or whatever, but much of Western Europe is not cool to immigrants or their kids and many are quite open about it. It makes home-grown radicalization easier.

Does Afghanistan have an integration problem? A bomb went off there a few days ago, killing many.

Does the Ivory Coast have an integration problem? Islamic killers shot a bunch of people on the beach there awhile back.

Does Mali have an integration problem? Islamic terrorists killed a bunch of people in a mall there.

Does San Bernardino have an integration problem? Two islamic killers shot a bunch of people in an office there, including white, black, jew, and vietnamese.