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his fat will drip into the fire for all eternity

Must have run out of fetal stem cells

buckethead wrote:IMG_1717.JPG

Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?



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Compare & contrast to when a murdering tyrant died:

http://irongarmx.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.p ... el#p859872

he was a 70-yr-old toad lookalike using his position to coerce sex out of his female employees. the blistering flames should lick his shriveled balls forever.

his "news" operation is an evangelical crusade of divisiveness and conflict.

he wife said he was a "loving husband," though.

dead man walking wrote:he was a 70-yr-old toad lookalike using his position to coerce sex out of his female employees. the blistering flames should lick his shriveled balls forever.

his "news" operation is an evangelical crusade of divisiveness and conflict.

he wife said he was a "loving husband," though.

^This from the guy who rationalized Fidel's oppression.

johno wrote:Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?

I hate Ailes because I feel the journalism he fostered is often dishonest, blatantly biased and pandering. The fact that he harassed women and presided over a culture of such harassment doesn't endear him to me either.

On the other hand, I have to say he did a superb job identifying an audience and building a network. He was brilliant in that regard.

johno wrote:

dead man walking wrote:he was a 70-yr-old toad lookalike using his position to coerce sex out of his female employees. the blistering flames should lick his shriveled balls forever.

his "news" operation is an evangelical crusade of divisiveness and conflict.

he wife said he was a "loving husband," though.

^This from the guy who rationalized Fidel's oppression.

"rationalized fidel's oppression" is incorrect.

i simply noted that there was an underlying reason for fidel's rise to power: the tyrrany of batista.

dead man walking wrote:

johno wrote:

dead man walking wrote:he was a 70-yr-old toad lookalike using his position to coerce sex out of his female employees. the blistering flames should lick his shriveled balls forever.

his "news" operation is an evangelical crusade of divisiveness and conflict.

he wife said he was a "loving husband," though.

^This from the guy who rationalized Fidel's oppression.

"rationalized fidel's oppression" is incorrect.

i simply noted that there was an underlying reason for fidel's rise to power: the tyrrany of batista.

I'll let your own words speak for themselves:

http://irongarmx.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.p ... el#p859872

johno wrote:Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?

Sexual harassment and assault. He was one creepy Bill Cosby-level dude.

seeahill wrote:

johno wrote:Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?

I hate Ailes because I feel the journalism he fostered is often dishonest, blatantly biased and pandering.

This is what puzzles me. For example, I might think that Arianna Huffington's journalism is often dishonest, biased, and pandering. And I feel similarly about ex-Pres. Obama's politics. But I wouldn't post with glee if either one died.

I try to save that shit for truly evil people. Example: if Roman Polanski, child rapist, dies a horrible death, I might celebrate a little bit. Or Fidel, I might celebrate a lot. Assad, a lot. But, Huffington? Or some other leftist commentator?

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As for Ailes and journalism - I think a lot of people conflate Fox reporting with Fox commentary. Brett Baier, Shepard Smith, and Greta VanSusteren (when she was still there) were reporters and I think they were as fair as the best in the mainstream media.

I think you guys really hate Fox commentators like O'Reilly (now gone), Hannity, and Tucker Carlson. Along with Rush Limbaugh on talk radio, they emphasized stories and gave voice to viewpoints that unseated the mainstream media as the sole voice of the American public. The oligopoly is permanently destroyed and Ailes played a large role in that.
How dare he?

nafod wrote:

johno wrote:Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?

Sexual harassment and assault. He was one creepy Bill Cosby-level dude.

So he drugged & raped women? Was that the accusation?

johno wrote:

seeahill wrote:

johno wrote:Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?

I hate Ailes because I feel the journalism he fostered is often dishonest, blatantly biased and pandering.

This is what puzzles me. For example, I might think that Arianna Huffington's journalism is often dishonest, biased, and pandering. And I feel similarly about ex-Pres. Obama's politics. But I wouldn't post with glee if either one died.

I try to save that shit for truly evil people. Example: if Roman Polanski, child rapist, dies a horrible death, I might celebrate a little bit. Or Fidel, I might celebrate a lot. Assad, a lot. But, Huffington? Or some other leftist commentator?

*****

As for Ailes and journalism - I think a lot of people conflate Fox reporting with Fox commentary. Brett Baier, Shepard Smith, and Greta VanSusteren (when she was still there) were reporters and I think they were as fair as the best in the mainstream media.

I think you guys really hate Fox commentators like O'Reilly (now gone), Hannity, and Tucker Carlson. Along with Rush Limbaugh on talk radio, they emphasized stories and gave voice to viewpoints that unseated the mainstream media as the sole voice of the American public. The oligopoly is permanently destroyed and Ailes played a large role in that.
How dare he?

Agreed. For the most part. I'm watching Fox now, a daytime talk show, Fox Specialists, four people shouting angrily about the mainstream media. Ignoring news CNN is reporting from NYT.

johno wrote:

nafod wrote:

johno wrote:Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?

Sexual harassment and assault. He was one creepy Bill Cosby-level dude.

So he drugged & raped women? Was that the accusation?

your basic tyrant: harrassment, intimidation, spying, co-erced sex.

perhaps more than you want to read. and yes, as seahill notes: he had an uncanny instinct.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... ailes.html

johno wrote:

nafod wrote:

johno wrote:Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?

Sexual harassment and assault. He was one creepy Bill Cosby-level dude.

So he drugged & raped women? Was that the accusation?

Didn't drug, but he was uniquely creepy in how he abused his position of authority.

Frankly, what seems disingenuous is Johno being Mr Sensitive on Irongarm

buckethead wrote:Frankly, what seems disingenuous is Johno being Mr Sensitive on Irongarm

Sorry to interrupt your left-handed Circle Jerk of Smugness with a little perspective.

nafod wrote:

johno wrote:

nafod wrote:

johno wrote:Such hate. I wonder about you guys.

Do you hate Ailes because he created Fox or because he sexually harassed some of his employees? Or...?

Sexual harassment and assault. He was one creepy Bill Cosby-level dude.

So he drugged & raped women? Was that the accusation?

Didn't drug, but he was uniquely creepy in how he abused his position of authority.

He definitely abused his position of authority, but he didn't invent the casting couch.

johno wrote:

buckethead wrote:Frankly, what seems disingenuous is Johno being Mr Sensitive on Irongarm

Sorry to interrupt your left-handed Circle Jerk of Smugness with a little perspective.

Perspective has never been your calling card. Why now?.

johno's signature is yeats. for this thread, he may be invoking donne: "no man is an island."

he's employing paradox, using an anti-fox news tactic to get us to examine our attitudes toward the fox news asshole in chief.

i can respect that.

it's better than turd's defense: "but your honor, lots of vandals have looted and pillaged before i ever did."

dead man walking wrote:johno's signature is yeats. for this thread, he may be invoking donne: "no man is an island."

he's employing paradox, using an anti-fox news tactic to get us to examine our attitudes toward the fox news asshole in chief.

i can respect that.

it's better than turd's defense: "but your honor, lots of vandals have looted and pillaged before i ever did."

I'm not defending him, just pointing out that this a ridiculously common form of scumbaggery.

Turdacious wrote:

dead man walking wrote:johno's signature is yeats. for this thread, he may be invoking donne: "no man is an island."

he's employing paradox, using an anti-fox news tactic to get us to examine our attitudes toward the fox news asshole in chief.

i can respect that.

it's better than turd's defense: "but your honor, lots of vandals have looted and pillaged before i ever did."

I'm not defending him, just pointing out that this a ridiculously common form of scumbaggery.

is perdition the fate of said scumbags?

dead man walking wrote:

Turdacious wrote:

dead man walking wrote:johno's signature is yeats. for this thread, he may be invoking donne: "no man is an island."

he's employing paradox, using an anti-fox news tactic to get us to examine our attitudes toward the fox news asshole in chief.

i can respect that.

it's better than turd's defense: "but your honor, lots of vandals have looted and pillaged before i ever did."

I'm not defending him, just pointing out that this a ridiculously common form of scumbaggery.

is perdition the fate of said scumbags?

He's finding out right now.

I don't think Ailes did as much of a favor to conservatism as he is given credit for. There was no Fox News during the Reagan era, and he did alright.

I visit the FoxNews website and take a sampling of the network, and it mostly seems to be about hating the left. Back when repubs and conservatives were out of power, I get it. Loyal opposition. But the liberals are pretty much a party in exile, with conservatives holding executive, legislative, and judicial at the national level and most of the slots at the state level. Yet you read or watch Fox and it is all blah, blah, blah Dems, Schumer, Hillary, blah, blah, blah, deep state alt-left, blah, blah, blah, as if the conservatives didn't hold all of the levers of power. An echo of current republicans, who can complain but not govern.